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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
    #21345334 - 02/28/15 06:01 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Your good man.  If you were doing the grow in optimal conditions and it failed, then maybe it would have been a bummer.  You made it that far which is still impressive. There's plenty of people state side that have all the resources necessary and still fail. Keep it up!


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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: Grey]
    #21347415 - 03/01/15 09:44 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I think part of the reason you're able to pull off agar in open air and without sterilizing is because you're doing it in a desert, which will have fewer CFUs in the air.


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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
    #21347524 - 03/01/15 10:03 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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not blowed up!  Internet here has been pretty crappy.  So I failed at producing fruit.  I had to throw away the last of the mycellium a couple days ago.  However, things I learned.....

- You can do agar work without laboratory grade sterilization.  I made 20 different plates that myc successfully started crossing...and only lost 3 to contams after a two week period.  All using a microwave and no pressure cooker or even a still air box.  That is very intriguing.

- I believe Oysters need a VERY large amount of Oxygen (fresh air exchange)...and they do not enjoy a "tub" or "covered" setup.  I was forced into using this sub-optimal setup to keep the humidity up in this 10% RH environment...and I dont think it allows enough FAE to promote fruiting.  I got the one block to fruit once...but it quickly stalled out.

- Cardboard works....but I wont use it ever again.  While it's very easy to sterilize, it's just too slow for a substrate.  I tried a variety of "unique" substrates while I was here..and myc ran across most of them.  But cardboard was far and away the slowest.  It doesn't colonize evenly, it's awkward to deal with, requires shredding to quite small pieces, and doesn't hold moisture evenly.  I think there are "waste" products that would be a better fit, since cardboard can easily be recycled by standard methods.

- Obsessing over, and checking your grow every 15 minutes will not make it grow faster.

- Mycology is one of the most inexpensive and enjoyable hobbies I've seen

- Shroomery members are helpful, knowledgeable, and fun people

- I know exactly what I need to do when I get home in 6 weeks.

- Mushrooms will grow on just about anything.  Provide a carbohydrate, a sugar, some basic vitamins/minerals, and keep the ph right....and that stuff will grow.

Sorry the grow let you down!  I know you were all hoping these things would fruit in a less than stellar environment.  I suspect if I had picked a strain that was more apt to fruit in a "chamber" like environment, that it would have worked just fine.



Good to have you back man and not blowd up you learned a lot more than first time growers and probably more than those with 5-6 grows under their belts. :kaneclap: :seriousthumbsup:


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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: Psilicon]
    #21352442 - 03/02/15 03:10 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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I think part of the reason you're able to pull off agar in open air and without sterilizing is because you're doing it in a desert, which will have fewer CFUs in the air.




I dont disagree with you. The lower particulate count probably had a lot to do with hit. I'm not advocating that anyone practice filling plates in open air as his/her standard.  I've already purchased a 30 quart pressure cooker for myself @home.  It's more just interesting that it can be done with extremely basic sterile care. 

The way people make it sound sometimes...if you dont use a pressure cooker your agar might grow into a small demon baby and eventually eat your face in the middle of the night.

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Good to have you back man and not blowd up you learned a lot more than first time growers and probably more than those with 5-6 grows under their belts.




Thanks buddy!  I did learn alot. It was time well spent.  I think I saved myself quite a few weeks of fumbling around at home when I finally get to do a real setup.  And it helped pass the time instead of staring at dirt for weeks.


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