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hoffzl01
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: NumeroEno]
#21224200 - 02/04/15 01:14 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can re-produce that process all the way until the last step. If I remove it in a plastic bag and slit for pin sites. That entire block will be bone dry in 2 days no matter how much I mist. But I like the general idea.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21231160 - 02/05/15 03:34 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Took your advice part way Numero. I bought a bucket here on base that has a wringer attachement with it. Just so happens that the wringer attachment keeps the block about 2 inches from the bottom. So I put an inch of water in the bottom and covered with a clear plastic bag. Keeps the bucket humid inside, and lets light in. I just uncover about 4-5 times a day for fresh air exchange. The block started pinning within 12 hours. Nice grey/blue pins. Very cool

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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21231243 - 02/05/15 03:48 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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hoffzl01 said: I can re-produce that process all the way until the last step. If I remove it in a plastic bag and slit for pin sites. That entire block will be bone dry in 2 days no matter how much I mist. But I like the general idea.
I feel your pain. I live in the desert. I run a mini greenhouse with a USB powered fan and humidifier. I've only been running it for about a week but it works well. I have a bunch of king oyster on agar that I'm gonna do a bunch of bottles with. I'm gonna try to respawn my block to sawdust in a spawn bag after I pull this flush, but I'm eventually going to do all bottles in my greenhouse. I just hope the oysters don't totally overrun my cubes, being in the same fruiting space.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: NumeroEno]
#21231322 - 02/05/15 04:00 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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You shouldn't have any "over-run" problems if you stick to a couple/three flushes for each cubes and oysters. Then toss the substrate and go back to your masters (grain or lc) for some new bottles. Cross-spores wont have any time to germinate
I took half of that grow kit that was kind of stalling out and mixed it in with cardboard(and a couple other things) in a large tupperware (with small gas exchange holes), to see if my intended substrate will work out. It took off in less than a day and is already visibly colonizing. I'm very surprised that I havn't had any contams even on my plates yet. I didn't even come close to proper sterilization technique. I mean I washed my hands and wiped all tools/containers with alcohol, but that's it.
Your greenhouse sounds cool. When I get home I'm setting up a 4 shelf, plastic covered one. I intend to fully automate with Arduino micro-controller and sensors. Humidifier and air pump. I already have all the parts waiting at home. (It is surprisingly cheap for a setup like that) Just have to get outta here. I might need some advice when that time comes around :p
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21231506 - 02/05/15 04:37 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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hoffzl01 said: Hey all - First time cultivator here. I've been reading your boards for weeks and read most of Stamet's works...ready to try my hand.
So I'm deployed to the sandy and sunny part of our planet, and decided I wanted to try growing some oyster mushrooms here. I ordered a grow kit instead of spawn or spores, to get my initial sample from. I've also ordered some basic materials (agar, petri dishes, scalpals, etc) - *** What do you guys/gals think about the feasibility of using cooked ramen broth supplemented with sugar or weak coffee as Agar? It's about the only consistent carbohydrate source I can get my hands on besides paper products - *** I have no idea how to do any basic sterilization for the agar medium. we have to get creative here! I have a coffee maker and a lighter. mushroom McGyver style. -
Thanks!
Look up steam sterillisation as far as agar nutrients You probably could use Ramen noodle broth not the spices just the noodles just save the water and throw the noodles away and maybe some very dilute coffee like 1 cup watered down into 6 or 7 Coffee is very acidic but you could soak your cardboard in the same mix like 1 cup of dilute coffee to 2 cups noodle water. And no you can't use microwave popcorn. Someone on here actually grew shrooms on pasta. Do you have access to straw or hay? If so do a search on straw logs for oysters. Oysters will grow on almost anything they are just so agressive colinizers. Just read then read some more and after that read even more.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21231668 - 02/05/15 05:19 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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you got it rooot. I used Ramen noodle broth, supplemented with breakfast syrup at 5% volume. I left the coffee out as I was worried about resulting PH level. Seems to be working. Growth at 4-5 days, no contams yet. Seems to be a little on the slow side...but working. The chunky stuff in the middle is the original sawdust substrate the mycellium came on.

I can't get straw here, but supplemented cardboard is working well as a substrate so far (not pasteurized...h202 soak for 1 hour, then rinsed and microwaved for 5 minutes)
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21231695 - 02/05/15 05:26 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Very nice log my friend glad to see you were successful.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21231744 - 02/05/15 05:36 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Keep going man if you got myc out of nuked agar build a SAB if you haven't already and cut a wedge from that agar And noc up some jars/bottles of cardboard. You got any dead vegetation at all? you know like desert plants anything kinda woody but not a tree? you could try that chopped up instead of straw. That or maybe palm fronds chopped up. Keep posting pics this is possibly the most Ghetto grow ever. You would be the king of teks.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21231934 - 02/05/15 06:11 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'll keep the pics coming as it progresses. The plates are growing slow enough that I'm pretty confident bacteria will win before it colonizes...but who knows! The Desert Ghetto Tek would be a magnificent work
I'm pretty confident in the cardboard though. I dont think this area of the world even knows what mold is. The humidity is a problem...but that might actually work to my benefit when fighting contams. I'm glad Numero got me on the bucket idea. That might have solved the humidity issue when fruiting.
As long as I still have some living mycellium, I will keep trying methods. I leave for home in about 9 weeks...so I'm hoping to get some fruits before then.
I havn't seen a plant other than a couple dead tumbling shrubs in 4 months.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21231938 - 02/05/15 06:11 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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hoffzl01 said: You shouldn't have any "over-run" problems if you stick to a couple/three flushes for each cubes and oysters. Then toss the substrate and go back to your masters (grain or lc) for some new bottles. Cross-spores wont have any time to germinate
I took half of that grow kit that was kind of stalling out and mixed it in with cardboard(and a couple other things) in a large tupperware (with small gas exchange holes), to see if my intended substrate will work out. It took off in less than a day and is already visibly colonizing. I'm very surprised that I havn't had any contams even on my plates yet. I didn't even come close to proper sterilization technique. I mean I washed my hands and wiped all tools/containers with alcohol, but that's it.
Your greenhouse sounds cool. When I get home I'm setting up a 4 shelf, plastic covered one. I intend to fully automate with Arduino micro-controller and sensors. Humidifier and air pump. I already have all the parts waiting at home. (It is surprisingly cheap for a setup like that) Just have to get outta here. I might need some advice when that time comes around :p
Wow! That's badass. I just have my stuff on a timer to run for 30 minutes at 4 hour intervals. The only reason I mentioned my oysters contaminating my cubes is because MudaFuka posted some great pics of oysters that grew out of his cube bottles. They bruised blue, lol.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: NumeroEno]
#21231953 - 02/05/15 06:14 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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On a side note, ghetto oyster growing is awesome. I'm gonna have to try the ramen agar. My kings on GLMEA/potato starch agar are doing really well. Can't wait to get those in bottles.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: NumeroEno]
#21231984 - 02/05/15 06:19 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wow! That's badass. I just have my stuff on a timer to run for 30 minutes at 4 hour intervals. The only reason I mentioned my oysters contaminating my cubes is because MudaFuka posted some great pics of oysters that grew out of his cube bottles. They bruised blue, lol.
Psychadelic AND Delicious....perfect.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21232171 - 02/05/15 06:53 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh and by the way...here's the vegetation status where I'm at. It looks like this pretty much everywhere. Even food for mushrooms is hard to find. I'm not really sure why anyone decided this was a decent place to live.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21232226 - 02/05/15 07:04 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Man you have enough myc right meow to take a wedge, do like 6 bottles cardboard or what ever as a test run. Hoping it all goes well man. Now all you need is spawn. You could requisition a bale of straw.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21232251 - 02/05/15 07:10 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Maybe straw is in the Federal Stock System. I'll order up a bale and it will be here in 1-2 years.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21232312 - 02/05/15 07:23 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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You can also use spent coffee grounds and sawdust. I'm experimenting still but muda has done some awesome oyster grows from bottles made with LI. I'm just doing stuff that's already been done to death my muda and eatyualive, among others, but man is it fun.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21232331 - 02/05/15 07:27 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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hoffzl01 said: Maybe straw is in the Federal Stock System. I'll order up a bale and it will be here in 1-2 years. 
Maybe order some old kapok life presevers from the Navy Lol they would probably get there in a few days. I can see it now Quaetermaster looking at it Life preservers in a desert? Fuck it send em.
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: r00tuuu123]
#21232366 - 02/05/15 07:35 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can see it now Quaetermaster looking at it Life preservers in a desert? Fuck it send em.
I'm sure they've sent stranger things to stranger places lol. I'd still love to see the look on his/her face
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21232514 - 02/05/15 08:03 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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When I get home, I'm pretty sure I want to use LI and LC TEK's. I need to run some tests and figure out what's fastest, least contam, highest yield/spawn of the following:
Plate -> Grain Master -> Grain Workers -> Bulk Bags
Plate -> Grain Master -> Slurry -> Grain Workers -> Bulk Bags Plate -> Grain Master -> Slurry -> Bulk Bags
Plate -> Liquid Culture -> Grain Workers -> Bulk Bags Plate -> Liquid Culture -> Bulk Bags
Plate -> PF Cake -> Slurry -> Grain Workers -> Bulk Bags Plate -> PF Cake -> Slurry -> Bulk Bags
I dont want to expand more than 3-4 times from the slant/plate, but want do do it the most efficient way possible. I've been impressed by some of the reading on slurries (LI), but obviously have no experience with it
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Re: Freedom Fungus - First time grow needs opinions [Re: hoffzl01]
#21232661 - 02/05/15 08:33 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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I would make LI with clean agar. You can't really tell if LC is clean until it's too late to matter.
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