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DifferentialQ
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First time doing bulk - is this ready to case?
#21159499 - 01/21/15 07:37 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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The title says it all. This is only 6 days after mixing the spawn with the substrate, and today was the first time I looked at it. It surprised me how far along it is. It kind of looks ready to case. What do you think? Strain is B+

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taGyo
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: DifferentialQ]
#21159515 - 01/21/15 07:42 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Looks ready to case to me,
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Point78
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: taGyo]
#21159523 - 01/21/15 07:45 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Jesus-yes, mine never look that good...
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DifferentialQ
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: Point78]
#21159563 - 01/21/15 07:55 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks!! Good to confirm my first time around.
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Psilicon
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: DifferentialQ]
#21160126 - 01/21/15 10:23 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yep. That was ready probably a day and a half or two days ago, believe it or not. You didn't hurt anything, though.
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TheGuru
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: Psilicon]
#21160147 - 01/21/15 10:30 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Dont case it. Its too late you have knotting and at this point will only hinder your first flush.
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Psilicon
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: TheGuru]
#21160162 - 01/21/15 10:33 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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TheGuru said: Dont case it. Its too late you have knotting and at this point will only hinder your first flush.
I don't see any knotting. Mind pointing it out for me?
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TheGuru
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: TheGuru]
#21160165 - 01/21/15 10:34 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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also stop using aluminum. I found that aluminum causes an excess amount of metabolites because the mushies try to eat it. dont believe me then next time u bulk use aluminum disposable baking pans as your container n watch as the mushies eat holes right through it.
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TheGuru
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: TheGuru]
#21160171 - 01/21/15 10:36 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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clear knotting on the bottom left corner of the pan.and the upper middle by where that big pudle of water is against the foil
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Psilicon
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: TheGuru]
#21160175 - 01/21/15 10:38 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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TheGuru said: clear knotting on the bottom left corner of the pan.and the upper middle by where that big pudle of water is against the foil
No, that isn't knotting. That's just a little aerial mycelium. Hyphal knots are actually much, much smaller and denser, and they're an even brighter shade of white.
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TheGuru
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: TheGuru]
#21160186 - 01/21/15 10:41 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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sorry about that. i downloaded the image to get a closer look. what i thought was pinning isnt. but if u insist on casing which isnt needed. do it now n make it a light casing
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TheGuru
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: TheGuru]
#21160191 - 01/21/15 10:43 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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in my experience late casing is worse than no casing. the knotting that is beginning to happen that u cant see is just damaged by the casing n sets ur first flush back a week or more
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wowimflabbergasted
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: Psilicon]
#21160203 - 01/21/15 10:45 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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If it's B+ then just fruit it.
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TheGuru
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Agreed fruit it. All a casing after colonizing does is cause problems. Only use late casing on pans n azurescen
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: TheGuru]
#21160246 - 01/21/15 10:58 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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TheGuru said: Agreed fruit it. All a casing after colonizing does is cause problems. Only use late casing on pans n azurescen
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wowimflabbergasted
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: TheGuru]
#21160256 - 01/21/15 11:01 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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TheGuru said: Agreed fruit it. All a casing after colonizing does is cause problems. Only use late casing on pans n azurescen
When should you case it then, before it's done colonizing? I doubt it.
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Pastywhyte
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Actually you can case when you spawn or right up to when you see knots and primordia. When you case will often determine how the casing performs given the material used and the cultures tendencies. For instance a late casing is preferable with coir where as a peat casing should be allowed to stay in colonizing conditions up to around 30% colonization before fruiting.
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wowimflabbergasted
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21160283 - 01/21/15 11:10 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Isn't casing when you spawn a "top layer"?
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Pastywhyte
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It is but you don't spawn it as much as apply it. There are also a few different ways to achieve it like I said and which works best will be dependent on your cultures tendencies as well as the materials being used.
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Re: First time doing bulk - is this ready to case? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21160300 - 01/21/15 11:15 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Believe what u want. I have been doing this for years with 6 dif stains of cubes n not one has benefited from a casing layer applied any later than on the initial bulk mix. Whatever you have to say should come from experience not what u have read online. n if u dont believe me or my technique just look up all of pinpornproducers posts n pics. I taught him how to grow
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