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How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) 2
#21140112 - 01/18/15 05:44 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trying to put 7 billion people into perspective (world population).
Well, if you counted at a rate of 1 person a second it would take you 222 years. So it is difficult to fathom. Nonstop counting dating back to the year 1793 when Washington was president. At this point there was no such thing as the White House and the capital was in Philadelphia.
It would take you about 10 years of non-stop counting (1 person/second) to count the US population!
So, where am I going with this? I do not think it is logical to believe that a God is watching you, and not only that, rooting for you, and protecting you. It is not a logically sound belief due to such an enormous population.
Second point: Suffering. Amongst these 7 billion people there are a lot of atrocities. Have you ever googled "drunk driver kills" before? What about "paralyzed in accident"? While we're at it google "house fire kills", "baby dies", or simply "woman attacked". Check for yourself, you are going to get a bunch of horror stories.
When you praise God for your first world problem going away, at the same time, immense suffering is taking place. It is a kick in the face to those that experienced the worst day of their lives when you ignorantly praise God for something stupid. It's also extremely childish, ignorant, and illogical.
Some of the stats are startling: 1 person dead in the US every 53 minutes from a drunk driver
About 22,500 people die of cancer every day!
Kids under 5? 30,000 of them dead a day due to preventable illnesses due to lack of food/clean water..That is a child death factory cranking out 21 babies/toddlers PER MINUTE!
Not to mention murders, torture, or natural disasters that take out 10s of millions annually.
You can google "acid attack" and see that just about every day a woman (usually a woman) gets disfigured so severely that she pretty much becomes a monster overnight.
So next time you praise Daddy God Thing because you aced your math final, got a promotion, recovered from the flu, etc., or whatever first world nonsense, remember a girl in a third world country got acid thrown in her face around the same time.
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Confucian]
#21140121 - 01/18/15 05:46 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Confucian] 4
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#21140176 - 01/18/15 06:02 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think this is a great time to post gospel hymns.
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Confucian]
#21140791 - 01/18/15 07:18 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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It is difficult to fathom from a human perspective. God is supposed to have the most superior perspective. You just don't enderstand ever because you a petty human being with a limited perspective.
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For clarification: I do sincerely believe there are entities capable of being aware of several billion other entities all at the same time. But, I don't believe in the modern ideal chistrian god. It's kind of hard to bash someone about their beliefs when neither of you understand how it works. That's why it's called faith. You don't know how it works, but some people believe a higher conscious can make it work. To say that there is no higher potential consciousness than mankind's current consciousness, imo, means you have a fat human ego that has gorged on many mcdonalds. On this point, it's nearly impossible to argue against religion. So good luck with that.
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: CookieCrumbs]
#21140806 - 01/18/15 07:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I like how you think.
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Confucian]
#21141047 - 01/18/15 07:42 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've always figured, even if there happened to be some god/gods behind it all, what the hell makes you as an individual any more important than every other creation? What kind of cosmic deity would be swayed by pity for one individual, when they initiated a whole system of life based on destroying other organisms, at such a massive scale. Why on earth would a deity have any notion of morals, let alone specifically modern western morals, when so many other systems of morality have already come and gone, each thinking themselves superior to the rest? Frankly it seems to me the possibility of some benevolent loving creator is no more likely than that of an absolutely fucking terrible creator who gets a kick out of watching ants suffer. In either case, there is absolutely no evidence to support either or any of the intervening models, and so there's absolutely no reason to chain yourself to any one system of religious belief beyond 'fuck logic I wanna'  *End of rant
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Ezuma]
#21141167 - 01/18/15 08:09 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: lowbrow]
#21141216 - 01/18/15 08:21 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hate gospel. I love Gregorian chants and all the catholic-y flavored things though. Basically everything I like about Christianity was done-in with before it ever came to america.
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Ezuma]
#21141657 - 01/18/15 09:41 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Ezuma said: I hate gospel. I love Gregorian chants and all the catholic-y flavored things though. Basically everything I like about Christianity was done-in with before it ever came to america.
Would you rather I post stryper videos?
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: lowbrow]
#21142081 - 01/18/15 11:42 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes?
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: lowbrow]
#21142090 - 01/18/15 11:44 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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God is master consciousness, which is all consciousness interconnected, kind of like a super computer.
So in a sense, he is all knowing because each individual knows everything about themselves. Even if you don't remember everything you have ever done, it is still imprinted in the mind.
You can take what I said literally or not, doesn't matter, it's just a belief of what I have about that deity's abilities. There are many entities that I contact, but he is pretty much supreme ruler of them.
He let them roam free for many many years, but all that is subject to change.
Don't mind me, just spewing useless beliefs about god, for all I know, none of what I said is correct. Those entities are tricky bastards when they want to be.
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Rhizohunter]
#21142123 - 01/18/15 11:59 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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So, because there is Satan, there is no God?
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Q.I]
#21142175 - 01/19/15 12:16 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: DpRwav]
#21142463 - 01/19/15 02:28 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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"its god's plan for them to die and suffer" lel
but just cause a higher power isnt interacting with its creation/experiment/entertainment doesn't meant it doesn't exist. It could just be laughing or doing some inconceivable thing as we speak.
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Confucian] 1
#21142472 - 01/19/15 02:35 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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What a ridiculously bad argument.
"It takes humans a really long time to say every number from one to 7 billion; therefore an omniscient and omnipresent God who created all of existence is incapable of watching over everyone".
That doesn't make any sense.
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: jewunit]
#21142508 - 01/19/15 02:59 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Confucian]
#21142755 - 01/19/15 07:06 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Confucian said: When you praise God for your first world problem going away, at the same time, immense suffering is taking place. It is a kick in the face to those that experienced the worst day of their lives when you ignorantly praise God for something stupid. It's also extremely childish, ignorant, and illogical.
really? maybe you can explain how what someone in the US is doing that harms no one is causing this harm to someone in some far away land, maybe someone should pray for those poor souls suffering all over the world
every time you bitch about people's god, it causes the exact same amount of suffering world wide as some other fool that's praying
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So next time you praise Daddy God Thing because you aced your math final, got a promotion, recovered from the flu, etc., or whatever first world nonsense, remember a girl in a third world country got acid thrown in her face around the same time.
it's good to see someone's religious beliefs crawl up your ass and causes you so much anguish that you have to create yet another thread, how has it saved some girl from getting acid thrown in her face, how has it save the tens of thousands of children that die of cancer or disease and starvation. does your complaining about people's beliefs benefit the world any more than prayer does?
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Confucian]
#21142787 - 01/19/15 07:30 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Confucian said: Trying to put 7 billion people into perspective (world population).
Well, if you counted at a rate of 1 person a second it would take you 222 years. So it is difficult to fathom. Nonstop counting dating back to the year 1793 when Washington was president. At this point there was no such thing as the White House and the capital was in Philadelphia.
It would take you about 10 years of non-stop counting (1 person/second) to count the US population!
So, where am I going with this? I do not think it is logical to believe that a God is watching you, and not only that, rooting for you, and protecting you. It is not a logically sound belief due to such an enormous population.
Your argument seems to rest on the assumption that this God would have human-like limitations in this regard. How is it logically sound to assume that the amount of time a human would take to do something has anything whatsoever to do with the possible abilities of a proposed omnipotent being?
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Re: How long does it take to count to 7 billion? (Rant on religion) [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21142828 - 01/19/15 08:05 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Confucian said: When you praise God for your first world problem going away, at the same time, immense suffering is taking place. It is a kick in the face to those that experienced the worst day of their lives when you ignorantly praise God for something stupid. It's also extremely childish, ignorant, and illogical.
really? maybe you can explain how what someone in the US is doing that harms no one is causing this harm to someone in some far away land, maybe someone should pray for those poor souls suffering all over the world
every time you bitch about people's god, it causes the exact same amount of suffering world wide as some other fool that's praying
When I said "a kick in the face to those that experience the worst day of their lives" I meant that metaphorically.
Let me put it a different way.
There is a large room and on the left side of the room a guy is there. He is praising "The Almighty", worshipping his "greatness", going on and on about how awesome, nice, and wonderful God is...
And on the right side of the room there is a baby being lit on fire, an elderly person getting their face smashed in, a little girl being raped, a teenager being stabbed to death, a handful of guys having strokes and heart attacks, people drowning, a guy getting mauled to death by a bear, a guy slipping and going into a vegetative state, a young family finding out their dad just got murdered, a mother finding out her 2 sons just died in a car crash, etc.
If you were the guy on the left side of the room, don't you think it would be a good time to reevaluate your statement?
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