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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Alexestalex]
    #21136027 - 01/17/15 10:27 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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No alcohol doesn't really lead to other drugs though. Most people I know who drink stop at alcohol and do nothing else.





my mayor smoked crack and his reason behind it was that he was too drunk



Crack smoking mayor I remembered that.


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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: shroom_sensai] * 1
    #21136033 - 01/17/15 10:29 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

OP you're as dumb as the people who believed the movie reefer madness was accurate. Also I think you make threads like this to push peoples buttons who are much more well versed In the issue then you.

You're just a no good troll and I hope you get banned very soo because I believe this is the 2d or 3rd thread you've done like this ad it's solely to agitate
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i know a lot of people who tried coke because they were too drunk and somebody told them a little bump would straighten them out.

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No alcohol doesn't really lead to other drugs though. Most people I know who drink stop at alcohol and do nothing else.





my mayor smoked crack and his reason behind it was that he was too drunk




lol exactly!



Most everyone I know that smokes pot smoked cigarettes and drank alcohol
before they were interested in weed(with some exceptions) Whatever drug that is tried first is potentially a gateway drug if they like a change in mindset.

Also most people I know that smokes weed started because they KNEW they were being lied to about HOW harmful marijuana actually was and needed to see what the truth is. We make more money with legal taxed weed then every other agricultural product in the U.S.. Teenage consumption has gone down in a lot of areas and I just think Bitter Cactus talks out of his ass a lot and loves to troll on weed.

As to the "think of the children" statement, it's ridiculous to think legalizing weed  would somehow adversely effect children. If children have access to weed it would be through the streets not a legalized store front with a age requirement .

In a legalized situation there is still a black market but I think kids being raised with the facts about marijuana instead of slander and misdirection will produce a better educated kid that's more inclined to understand why he/she needs to wait to smoke pot on a scientific level.


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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Seriously_trippin]
    #21136040 - 01/17/15 10:30 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I got drunk and never wanted to.drink again. I got drunk before the party.


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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21136095 - 01/17/15 10:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I think it depends, but I'll say that nobody should deny that weed CAN be a gateway for many people. Everybody I know who smokes weed has tried other drugs too so  :shrug:

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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: theRAPeutic] * 1
    #21136219 - 01/17/15 11:20 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Smoking weed for the first time gets people in the mindset that since weed is not so bad, maybe mushrooms are not so bad either, then maybe ketamine isn't so bad either, then maybe speed isn't so bad either, maybe xanax isn't so bad either.


You guys do not want to admit it, but weed was the gateway drug for most of the people here into the illegal drug culture.  If it were not for trying weed the first time, I guarantee most people would be much more hesitant to get into mushrooms and other drugs.

This is a fact.

Making weed legal and socially acceptable can potentially be dangerous. With weed readily available to buy at a store around the corner, people of age can easily pick up and sell it to middle schoolers to make a quick buck. Smoking weed under the age of 18 leads to higher rates of schizophrenia and mental disorders and I really don't want my future children to have the attitude that weed is harmless and they can smoke it.


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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21136252 - 01/17/15 11:31 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I agree with this 100%. Most of the delusional in-denial druggies here dont wanna hear it tho

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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #21136331 - 01/18/15 12:07 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly. Like cigarettes are not a gateway drug. How do you get from nicotine to LSD? Alcohol isn't either. It is much more socially accepted and legal and plenty of people just drink socially.

Weed is the first illegal drug most people try. They try it, like the high, wonder why people say it is so dangerous, then they start to wonder if people lied about the other drugs as well. Most stoners at this point begin researching psychedelics, psychedelic trips, then they seek out a different narcotic to open up their mind in a different way. From there they start getting into drugs like MDMA, ketamine, moving onwards to benzos and opiates and amphetamines.


The cycle may not exactly be that way, but I guarantee this is what happened to most of you.

Weed is a gateway drug, it leads people to other drugs that are far worse and can destroy lives.

You guys are in denial.


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Edited by Bitter Cactus (01/18/15 12:08 AM)

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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #21136337 - 01/18/15 12:10 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

obviously it's a gateway drug for some people, nobody is arguing that.

it's the arguing like a bunch of idiot monkeys about whether or not we should generalize by classifying weed as a gateway drug that is what's absent minded.

i think people are just pissed off at the retardation, it's not the argument

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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21136354 - 01/18/15 12:14 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Weed is a gateway drug, the prohibitionists are right.






really? what was the first drug you've taken?

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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21136357 - 01/18/15 12:16 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Weed is a gateway drug, the prohibitionists are right.






really? what was the first drug you've taken?




Odds are it's nicotine or ethanol, prisoner #1.


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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Bitter Cactus] * 1
    #21136358 - 01/18/15 12:16 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Weed is the first illegal drug most people try.






so wait... drugs dont include things such as alcohol, prescription and OTC meds?

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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #21136359 - 01/18/15 12:16 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
Weed is a gateway drug, the prohibitionists are right.






really? what was the first drug you've taken?




Weed.


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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21136361 - 01/18/15 12:16 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
Weed is a gateway drug, the prohibitionists are right.






really? what was the first drug you've taken?




Weed.




So the hell what?


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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21136364 - 01/18/15 12:18 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
Weed is a gateway drug, the prohibitionists are right.






really? what was the first drug you've taken?




Weed.





you sure? never any experience with say drugs such as aspirin, tylenol,
maybe a little nyquil when you were sick as a kid, you mom just up
and gave you weed to treat a cold or fever...

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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: robbyberto]
    #21136367 - 01/18/15 12:18 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Bitter Cactus said:
Weed is a gateway drug, the prohibitionists are right.






really? what was the first drug you've taken?




Weed.




So the hell what?






what the hell is that he's grossly mistaken about the first drug he's taken

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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: TrIpPyDuDe]
    #21136383 - 01/18/15 12:24 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I understand what Cactus is saying

Weed has this aspect to it that alcohol, nicotine, Adderal, Coffee, etc will just never have. It's kind of like a psychedelic feeling that opens your eyes up to all the cool places that drugs can take you in your mind.

That was my personal experience at least. 

Like weed appears so innocent in comparison to shrooms, acid, ketamine, etc. So you try pot and think "whoa if pot can do this, I can't even imagine what acid can do!"


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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Alexestalex]
    #21136405 - 01/18/15 12:32 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I understand what Cactus is saying

Weed has this aspect to it that alcohol, nicotine, Adderal, Coffee, etc will just never have. It's kind of like a psychedelic feeling that opens your eyes up to all the cool places that drugs can take you in your mind.

That was my personal experience at least. 

Like weed appears so innocent in comparison to shrooms, acid, ketamine, etc. So you try pot and think "whoa if pot can do this, I can't even imagine what acid can do!"




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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: Bitter Cactus]
    #21136411 - 01/18/15 12:33 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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No alcohol doesn't really lead to other drugs though. Most people I know who drink stop at alcohol and do nothing else.




You live in your moms house or something? Why the fuck do I have to explain to a fucking albertan that people get drunk and go looking for crack? Have you never been to fort mac in your fucking life? Alcohol is a trigger for crack use. Just like how you get drunk and want a smoke even though you quit 6 months ago, it's the exact same thing. Funny even my grandmother knows that you don't drink when trying to quit smoking, everyone knows it. But change the substance to crack and people like you deny any link. Rob Ford is in no way alone when he goes on crack benders while drunk. 
Stop trolling you make our province look bad. If you live in calgary why don't you come down with me to the shamrock hotel and I can show you all sorts of people who are not crack addicts until they get drunk. My friend gets drunk and I have to wrestle his car keys away and take his wallet because he starts talking about crack, every fucking time. To say alcohol is not a direct factor in many people's cocaine addiction is moronic.
Any program for hard drug addicts that doesn't recommend they quit drinking is bad one. Sadly this what everyone does, quits those bad illegal drugs and keeps up with that good legal drinking. It's the worst thing you could do. In fact hard drug users should try just using cannabis as it does not lead to hard drugs, its proven to help people fight addiction.

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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: my3rdeye]
    #21136416 - 01/18/15 12:35 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Edited by Prisoner#1 (01/18/15 12:58 AM)

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Re: Weed is a gateway drug [Re: my3rdeye]
    #21136420 - 01/18/15 12:37 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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No alcohol doesn't really lead to other drugs though. Most people I know who drink stop at alcohol and do nothing else.




You live in your moms house or something? Why the fuck do I have to explain to a fucking albertan that people get drunk and go looking for crack? Have you never been to fort mac in your fucking life? Alcohol is a trigger for crack use. Just like how you get drunk and want a smoke even though you quit 6 months ago, it's the exact same thing. Funny even my grandmother knows that you don't drink when trying to quit smoking, everyone knows it. But change the substance to crack and people like you deny any link. Rob Ford is in no way alone when he goes on crack benders while drunk. 
Stop trolling you make our province look bad. If you live in calgary why don't you come down with me to the shamrock hotel and I can show you all sorts of people who are not crack addicts until they get drunk. My friend gets drunk and I have to wrestle his car keys away and take his wallet because he starts talking about crack, every fucking time. To say alcohol is not a direct factor in many people's cocaine addiction is moronic.
Any program for hard drug addicts that doesn't recommend they quit drinking is bad one. Sadly this what everyone does, quits those bad illegal drugs and keeps up with that good legal drinking. It's the worst thing you could do. In fact hard drug users should try just using cannabis as it does not lead to hard drugs, its proven to help people fight addiction.




People like to drink and do cocaine/ crack. That has nothing to do with the gateway drug theory. Like most people I know who have their first drink say "I want to try crack for the first time". Maybe if you are already a crackhead and get drunk it makes your cravings worse.


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