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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21121108 - 01/14/15 03:58 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Since you''re confused, let's go back to where you avoided my point and changed the topic to radical imams:
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zappaisgod said: Conspiracy to commit murder is a crime. It is a lesser crime than murder but still a crime
That's a couple of pretty huge leaps.
I guess we should be trying neo nazis at the ICC? Agreeing with a crime does not equal conspiracy to commit a crime. But you know that, you're just in tunnel vision mode because muslims.
Your claim that responding to poll questions, concerning islamic violence, favorably is equitable to conspiracy to commit murder is violator. Not all terror attacks even involve murder.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: memes]
#21121110 - 01/14/15 03:58 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh no it didn't. I served the full sentence
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21121125 - 01/14/15 04:01 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Since you''re confused, let's go back to where you avoided my point and changed the topic to radical imams:
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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said: Conspiracy to commit murder is a crime. It is a lesser crime than murder but still a crime
That's a couple of pretty huge leaps.
I guess we should be trying neo nazis at the ICC? Agreeing with a crime does not equal conspiracy to commit a crime. But you know that, you're just in tunnel vision mode because muslims.
Your claim that responding to poll questions, concerning islamic violence, favorably is equitable to conspiracy to commit murder is violator. Not all terror attacks even involve murder.
Responding to poll questions? You are so far removed from rationality that I feel I lose brain cells reading your posts.
Hundreds of millions of Muslims support killing infidels. They are radicalized in mosques that incite them to kill. Conspiracy to commit murder. Thank you, good bye. You should be in bed.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: zappaisgod]
#21121214 - 01/14/15 04:21 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your rebuttal is ending the argument? Telling.
Here's your train of thought thus far:
> 20% of Muslims support terror acts, based on poll numbers (no source) > Therefore, hundreds of millions of Muslims are murderers. > Asssuming all terror acts involve murder. > Because even though they don't murder, they agree with it. > Because agreeing with terror acts (no source) is the same as conspiracy to commit murder.
Did you forget this whole thing started when you said this:
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zappaisgod said: I already posted a poll that illustrates that about 20% of the billion Muslims support terror attacks.
You're basing this entire premise on that, and now, what? angry? that I brought up the unreliability of poll numbers?
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: zappaisgod]
#21121231 - 01/14/15 04:27 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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The Ecstatic said: Since you''re confused, let's go back to where you avoided my point and changed the topic to radical imams:
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The Ecstatic said:
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zappaisgod said: Conspiracy to commit murder is a crime. It is a lesser crime than murder but still a crime
That's a couple of pretty huge leaps.
I guess we should be trying neo nazis at the ICC? Agreeing with a crime does not equal conspiracy to commit a crime. But you know that, you're just in tunnel vision mode because muslims.
Your claim that responding to poll questions, concerning islamic violence, favorably is equitable to conspiracy to commit murder is violator. Not all terror attacks even involve murder.
Responding to poll questions? You are so far removed from rationality that I feel I lose brain cells reading your posts.
Hundreds of millions of Muslims support killing infidels. They are radicalized in mosques that incite them to kill. Conspiracy to commit murder. Thank you, good bye. You should be in bed.
I actually have to agree with TE on this one, being in support of a terror attack is not the same as being complicit in it. If you supported the Iraq War, would that make you guilty of conspiracy to commit the war crimes that that war entailed? Perhaps we will be seeing you at the ICC sooner or later.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21121236 - 01/14/15 04:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Ecstatic said: Your rebuttal is ending the argument? Telling.
Here's your train of thought thus far:
> 20% of Muslims support terror acts, based on poll numbers (no source)
I gave a sourceQuote:
> Therefore, hundreds of millions of Muslims are murderers.
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> Asssuming all terror acts involve murder.
Straw man. Sometimes they don't succeed in killing because they are fuck ups. See Richard Reid.Quote:
> Because even though they don't murder, they agree with it.
Agree with it, support it, fund it. Conspiracy to commit murderQuote:
> Because agreeing with terror acts (no source) is the same as conspiracy to commit murder.
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Did you forget this whole thing started when you said this:
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zappaisgod said: I already posted a poll that illustrates that about 20% of the billion Muslims support terror attacks.
You're basing this entire premise on that, and now, what? angry? that I brought up the unreliability of poll numbers? 
Not at all. You have exactly zero evidence to rebut the poll.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 1
#21121256 - 01/14/15 04:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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The Ecstatic said: Since you''re confused, let's go back to where you avoided my point and changed the topic to radical imams:
Your claim that responding to poll questions, concerning islamic violence, favorably is equitable to conspiracy to commit murder is violator. Not all terror attacks even involve murder.
Responding to poll questions? You are so far removed from rationality that I feel I lose brain cells reading your posts.
Hundreds of millions of Muslims support killing infidels. They are radicalized in mosques that incite them to kill. Conspiracy to commit murder. Thank you, good bye. You should be in bed.
I actually have to agree with TE on this one, being in support of a terror attack is not the same as being complicit in it. If you supported the Iraq War, would that make you guilty of conspiracy to commit the war crimes that that war entailed? Perhaps we will be seeing you at the ICC sooner or later.
Aside from the fact that incidental acts of war crimes were not sanctioned, the terrorist acts committed by the Muzzi scum are not only sanctioned but encouraged by a huge portion of the Muslim community.
Fuck muhammed, the pedophile piece of shit, and piss on allah.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: zappaisgod]
#21121265 - 01/14/15 04:36 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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The prosecution of the Iraq War was in itself a war crime, since it was based on false pretenses. I'll see you aside Dick Cheney at the Hague.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#21121268 - 01/14/15 04:37 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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How the fuck is going to war and engaging using the international rules of engagement a war crime? Simply because you didn't believe in the cause for the war does not mean it is a war crime! 40 separate nations were involved in the coalition forces in the Iraq War. It's not just BIG OLD USA going in and fucking frying people like terminator. So unless 40 others countries were complicit in mass murder it was simply an occupation to secure a democracy instead of the regime Saddam had setup. We went in wiped out Saddam army in mere days and then proceeded to fight taliban/insurgents/pissed off people with guns.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Gorlax]
#21121283 - 01/14/15 04:39 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Saddam had no WMD program. That is not my "belief", that is a fact.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#21121303 - 01/14/15 04:43 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yes, you are correct, we have never found any WMD. However, you must have forgotten he gassed thousands of kurds and iranians? War crime? prob not cause he isn't american? He had an extensive biological chemical warfare setup but yes no nukes. I live in the SW and we have a huge population of people who escaped the first iraq war and not a single one of them defends his regime.
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The United States exported support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war over $500 million worth of dual use exports to Iraq that were approved by the Commerce department. Among them were advanced computers, some of which were used in Iraq's nuclear program. The non-profit American Type Culture Collection and the Centers for Disease Control sold or sent biological samples of anthrax, West Nile virus and botulism to Iraq up until 1989, which Iraq claimed it needed for medical research. A number of these materials were used for Iraq's biological weapons research program, while others were used for vaccine development. For example, the Iraqi military settled on the American Type Culture Collection strain 14578 as the exclusive anthrax strain for use as a biological weapon, according to Charles Duelfer.
In the late 1980s, the British government secretly gave the arms company Matrix Churchill permission to supply parts for Saddam Hussein's weapons program, while British Industry supplied Gerald Bull as he developed the Iraqi supergun. In March 1990, a case of nuclear triggers bound for Iraq, were seized at Heathrow Airport. The Scott Report uncovered much of the secrecy that had surrounded the Arms-to-Iraq affair when it became known. The British government also financed a chlorine factory that was intended to be used for manufacturing mustard gas. Niger provided yellowcake in 1981.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Gorlax]
#21121307 - 01/14/15 04:45 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: Yes, you are correct, we have never found any WMD. However, you must have forgotten he gassed thousands of kurds and iranians? War crime? prob not cause he isn't american? He had an extensive biological chemical warfare setup but yes no nukes. I live in the SW and we have a huge population of people who escaped the first iraq war and not a single one of them defends his regime.
I'm not arguing that the Iraq War was wrong (though I do believe that), I'm arguing that the pretense for the war (Saddam's supposed WMD program, a supposed material threat to mideast stability) was a fabrication.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#21121315 - 01/14/15 04:47 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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but it really wasn't the fact that Iran was developing nuclear weapons sent Saddam into fucking panic mode. They hate each other and while we backed Iraq we gave them incredibly sensitive technologies that could be used for nukes. Also secret deals were being made by other countries with Iraq. It's more then just finding nukes. Saddam was developing anything he could, he was broke so nukes was far from him but WMD doesn't just mean nuclear it also includes biological weapons.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Gorlax]
#21121323 - 01/14/15 04:50 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: How the fuck is going to war and engaging using the international rules of engagement a war crime? Simply because you didn't believe in the cause for the war does not mean it is a war crime! 40 separate nations were involved in the coalition forces in the Iraq War. It's not just BIG OLD USA going in and fucking frying people like terminator. So unless 40 others countries were complicit in mass murder it was simply an occupation to secure a democracy instead of the regime Saddam had setup. We went in wiped out Saddam army in mere days and then proceeded to fight taliban/insurgents/pissed off people with guns.
"secure a democracy"
Also to secure the oil fields, but that game plan turned into a big disaster. Trying to secure, develop, and expand oil production under Western control never worked out, just a slight miscalculation.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Gorlax]
#21121327 - 01/14/15 04:50 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: but it really wasn't the fact that Iran was developing nuclear weapons sent Saddam into fucking panic mode. They hate each other and while we backed Iraq we gave them incredibly sensitive technologies that could be used for nukes. Also secret deals were being made by other countries with Iraq. It's more then just finding nukes. Saddam was developing anything he could, he was broke so nukes was far from him but WMD doesn't just mean nuclear it also includes biological weapons.
Did I say "nuclear weapons"? No, I said "WMD program". Bush's cabinet lied to the American people and to the UN about Saddam's alleged WMD program because the reasons you cite (and the reasons cited by the Bush administration themselves post-invasion, when their lies had become transparent) would not have sufficed to justify the invasion to the American people or to the UN.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Gorlax] 1
#21121335 - 01/14/15 04:52 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah in war you secure your enemies natural resources. It's the rules of the game. Saying that is the main cause for invading is a false statement. We are now the number one oil producer so that makes zero fucking sense.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Gorlax]
#21121341 - 01/14/15 04:53 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Gorlax said: Yeah in war you secure your enemies natural resources. It's the rules of the game. Saying that is the main cause for invading is a false statement. We are now the number one oil producer so that makes zero fucking sense.
Do you see international wars of aggression as a game? Fuck, man.
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 1
#21121346 - 01/14/15 04:53 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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BlindSophist said: The prosecution of the Iraq War was in itself a war crime, since it was based on false pretenses. I'll see you aside Dick Cheney at the Hague. 
Bullshit. Did Iraq invade Kuwait or not?
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#21121351 - 01/14/15 04:54 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah in the larger picture they are. Ever play chess?
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Re: Terroist attack at a French magaizine, inspired by satire [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#21121356 - 01/14/15 04:55 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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BlindSophist said: Saddam had no WMD program. That is not my "belief", that is a fact.
You can have your opinions but you can't have your facts.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/10/14/world/middleeast/us-casualties-of-iraq-chemical-weapons.html
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