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Re: Video Games [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
    #21106417 - 01/12/15 09:10 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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this forum is a game


just saying for sake of perspective




I'm winning!


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Re: Video Games [Re: Sun King]
    #21106855 - 01/12/15 10:20 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)



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Re: Video Games [Re: XUL]
    #21107129 - 01/12/15 10:57 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I play only online pin ball. I've been playing it for 10 years and have never tired of it.  I play most days.  Most all the other vid games leave me :boring:

But actually I consider the Shroomery a video game. :nicesmile:


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Re: Video Games [Re: OppiumNitrates]
    #21107926 - 01/12/15 02:07 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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OppiumNitrates said:
Even if it is your opinion, IMHO, it's an uneducated one. Yes anyone binge playing games for 24 hours straight is not healthy and games can be addicting, but you can say that about just about anything.




You're right man, upon reflection I can see that my comment was unnecessary. I had a knee jerk reaction to the subject as, whilst I have not lost friends to drugs, I have lost friends to computer games. My apologies for that. My opinion was not based on science of any sorts, as I have already stated.


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It's hard not to be offended when someone implys that you are wasting your life even if it is just some random on the Internet. 




I still question the extremity of your reaction however. You make it sound like that job IS your life.


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Re: Video Games [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #21107936 - 01/12/15 02:09 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I see nothing wrong with making a job the focal point of your life if you love it. :shrug:


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Re: Video Games [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #21107974 - 01/12/15 02:15 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

'tis a good point Ice, but you don't find anything just a little out of whack in the extremity of reaction to some not-so-well thought out words?


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Re: Video Games [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #21108113 - 01/12/15 02:41 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

no not really, we're all bat shit crazy imo.


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Re: Video Games [Re: Icelander] * 1
    #21108266 - 01/12/15 03:10 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I'd love to exploit people's constant need for stimulation any time they have an idle moment and make a killer living out of it....
Somebody made $50,000 a day off in app purchases from this phone game 'Flappy Bird', before he had some sort of psychological meltdown from its success and his conscience and removed it from the app store.



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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: Video Games [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21108578 - 01/12/15 04:05 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone want to share an Analogue?

I still love those 8 bit wonders.

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Re: Video Games [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #21108650 - 01/12/15 04:23 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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I have not lost friends to drugs, I have lost friends to computer games.




What does that mean?  I wonder if your friend feels as though he lost you to your bike riding :lol:.  Maybe the two of you grew apart, found recreation in different things -shit happen...  Really, imho, what it comes down to is whether or not your ex-friends enjoy playing video games.  I assure you somebody out there enjoys playing games more than you enjoy riding bikes, more dopamine is released in his brain, it could all potentially be scientifically measured... and is all around more passionate about it than you are with your hobbies.  It's a big world out there, it's bound to happen.

Really addiction is when you are compelled to endlessly do something you don't enjoy anymore, and you're doing it just so you can go to sleep at night.  We all know somebody who that's happened to with drugs, and assuredly it happens with video game players (particularly those MMOs like World of Warcraft that have you do the most repetitive tasks over and over again, but not always), and probably even those who ride bikes continue to do it when there heart is no longer into it.

Otherwise, it's just a difference in personal tastes...  Many people hate bikers on the road, think they're stupid and reckless, and an all around waste of space.

If I'm gonna make judgments, I'd prefer to do so with each biker and gamer on an individual basis, use my discretion on the matter, rather making blanket statements about bikes or video games.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: Video Games [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21108722 - 01/12/15 04:40 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)


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Re: Video Games [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #21108745 - 01/12/15 04:45 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
'tis a good point Ice, but you don't find anything just a little out of whack in the extremity of reaction to some not-so-well thought out words?




This is mostly just human behavior, I see it constantly with content creators... They can have a thousand people praising them and they'll ignore all that and tune right into the first person who criticizes their work :lol:... But it makes a lot more sense to me if you were on the youtube trailer of his game making such a comment as opposed a random message board opinion.  In this case, he's venting, it likely has nothing to do with you, you were just the first person he found an excuse to get crabby with.


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: Video Games [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #21109416 - 01/12/15 06:53 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Jokeshopbeard said:
You're right man, upon reflection I can see that my comment was unnecessary. I had a knee jerk reaction to the subject as, whilst I have not lost friends to drugs, I have lost friends to computer games. My apologies for that. My opinion was not based on science of any sorts, as I have already stated.




No worries man I definitely over reacted so no love lost.  I am sorry to hear you lost a friend to gaming that really is too bad. If it is because he is addicted maybe you can try to get him some help.
http://www.video-game-addiction.org/video-game-addiction-treatment.html


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I still question the extremity of your reaction however. You make it sound like that job IS your life.




I noticed that you said you work for a company making financial software. Have you always worked for other companies or have you ever have your own company? Software or other.

If not than you probably would not understand because when you start your own company, or studio in this case, it does become your life. And not necessarily in a bad way, I mean the hours can be long but the reward is pretty cool. The real dream is to be walking down the street or in a restaurant or where ever and overhear some stranger talking about one of the games I worked on(still waiting on that one). I don't even play many games anymore because making them is much more enjoyable to me now. So yeah it is my life because I made it that way.


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Re: Video Games [Re: OppiumNitrates]
    #21109468 - 01/12/15 07:02 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Check out this video on Wii-based Movement Therapy for stroke rehabilitation, the potential for video games is fucking amazing if you ask me.



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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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Re: Video Games [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21109519 - 01/12/15 07:12 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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CosmicJoke said:
Check out this video on Wii-based Movement Therapy for stroke rehabilitation, the potential for video games is fucking amazing if you ask me




Not sure if "fucking amazing" really captures how incredible that video is. Nice find.


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Re: Video Games [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21109968 - 01/12/15 08:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Hi Cosmic Joke, I don't believe I have spoken to you before but I guess I have a bone to pick with you. Eh? Well, clearly it is some kind of game.

Granted I am incredibly thankful for my personal perspective of things, which seems to be founded in principle somewhere in a private place, maybe a headspace, or maybe as much in somewhere I can lean and loaf, but I think maybe you are impressing the relativity of human perspectives and values a bit liberally.

It was a long time for me to find this, as something I could rely on, and I am thankful in spite of so much people say, that this place, wherever it is going to be found, exists. And yet, I think (for me anyway) it is not exactly as good for projecting out from. Perhaps in my case this is because I am particularly eccentric, but still this is my general argument.

You seem to impress that nobody can speak of one thing as better than another, which I take to be generally true. But while we may rest on this, as a principle or whatever, how much sense does it make to simulate possibilities, and project rationale from general principles? I am thinking of your argument which levels the hobby of bicycling with videogaming...it seems pretty hypothetical, and pretty much simulated. I am wondering isn't this also in principle what we should be critical of?

Maybe we are coming into a new age and we need to embrace our machinations, which could justify certain principles standing. As someone pointed out, the possibilities in videogames in our lives is probably somewhat overlooked, out of prejudice. Particularly, physical therapy in videogames, is inspiring, but if I would want to help people, I still think I would lean the way I do. I feel like I may be on the verge of missing that this is not about ostensible "values" but about life and health, but still I would recommend going out into the world to seek healing... Indeed I concur wholeheartedly, seek the alternatives, but be sure to seek.

If I were attempting to come to and really stand for my more eccentric and nerdy principles, I would say something about anime. Or if I were trying to convince someone of anime in general, whatever that means, first I would find it necessary to deconstruct certain conceptions of media; especially anime itself. Then I would suggest experiencing what is only truly the best in its possibilities. The  great art, maybe some watercolors mixed with computer generated art, some amazing sonic landscapes, and only the best notions which suit anime so well.

Whether this is to open their mind or bear my own, I am not sure.

And you guys are talking about bicycling... Sure there are some really pretentious bicyclists! But if some enthusiast were to point out what a truly amazing and broadly appreciable modern machine the bicycle is, I wonder what he would speak of in life. Not principles, or abstractions. Things I would relate to without prejudice, I think, and yet can we overlook these things just as much? Can we overlook our life, and health. Do we not?

...what we yoke ourselves to in this world...

Edited by Kurt (01/12/15 08:56 PM)

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Re: Video Games [Re: Kurt]
    #21110217 - 01/12/15 09:09 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Hey Kurt, I'm a vegetarian, I don't like bones of contention...  Maybe we could pick over the stick of a veggie shish kabob, but actually I'm kind of a tree hugger so I find those sticks really unnecessary... Hmm, let's gnaw at the pit of a plum. Yes, that will suffice...:lol:.

Well, I don't believe video games at large are a meaningful 'thing' to begin with, yet call a waste of life... To me, it's like saying 'black people' are a waste of life  - :wtf: does that mean?  There are a million video games out there, and I have barely played a handful of them... What the fuck do I know about video games?  What do I know about gamers wasting their lives, aside from the small handful of friends I've met who were mostly druggy slack asses and would have undoubtably managed to to have slack assed their way through life in endless other manifestations if there were no such thing as videogames?  Or a handful of sensationalized news links? Now I'm supposed to presume it's the video game's fault? 

It's like me saying gangsta rap is for waste of life thugs... I don't prefer listening to gangsta rap 99.99% of the time, but I don't care to get overly embroiled in arguments that come down to personal preference..




Jokeshopbeard: Ever hear this one? I think it's some phenomenal gangsta rap :wink:

A better example is soap operas, I'd say most of us shroomerites would easily be inclined to say they're a waste of life....  I dunno, my great grandmother watched them, she was a head librarian, volunteered more of her life than anyone I've met, and was generally one of the nicest, most compassionate people I've ever met.... I thought her 'stories' were pretty lame and couldn't help but groan while watching the dramas of rich and powerful business people cheating on each other ad nauseam :puke:... But still, I don't really know that much about soap operas, I've seen maybe two majorly syndicated US ones?  Who knows, maybe there's one in Iceland that is fucking amazing and would have me totally reconsidering everything.  :shrug:  I'd rather talk about a specific soap opera with a specific name that I didn't like, rather than make a blanket statement about soap operas...


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Everything is better than it was the last time.  I'm good.

If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

Edited by CosmicJoke (01/12/15 09:47 PM)

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Re: Video Games [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21110901 - 01/12/15 10:57 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Well I'll take the end of the veggie kabobb, as a savory median. :-)

Funny what happens in the middle of life... I'll say. What can be said? What can be interposed? Be excellent? Be healthful?

I guess that in the end though we decide for ourselves what it is we sieze in life.

Carpe diem!

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Re: Video Games [Re: CosmicJoke]
    #21113412 - 01/13/15 11:59 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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CosmicJoke said:
Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
I have not lost friends to drugs, I have lost friends to computer games.




What does that mean?  I wonder if your friend feels as though he lost you to your bike riding :lol:.  Maybe the two of you grew apart, found recreation in different things -shit happen...  Really, imho, what it comes down to is whether or not your ex-friends enjoy playing video games.  I assure you somebody out there enjoys playing games more than you enjoy riding bikes, more dopamine is released in his brain, it could all potentially be scientifically measured... and is all around more passionate about it than you are with your hobbies.  It's a big world out there, it's bound to happen.

Really addiction is when you are compelled to endlessly do something you don't enjoy anymore, and you're doing it just so you can go to sleep at night.  We all know somebody who that's happened to with drugs, and assuredly it happens with video game players (particularly those MMOs like World of Warcraft that have you do the most repetitive tasks over and over again, but not always), and probably even those who ride bikes continue to do it when there heart is no longer into it.




I appreciate all you've said there CJ. I also appreciate that growing apart often happens for various reasons, but I do think the instance I mentioned was a case of addiction. Staying up all night/not coming out/no responding to contact/etc. Hey, shit happens - as you say, it could have been any number of things that caused it and I realise I'm no better that a crusading parent (well, maybe not quite to that extent, but an interesting comparison) because of how I have shaped the thing that caused it as an evil in my mind. I'm glad it came out here and was brought to my attention.


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I noticed that you said you work for a company making financial software. Have you always worked for other companies or have you ever have your own company? Software or other.

If not than you probably would not understand because when you start your own company, or studio in this case, it does become your life. And not necessarily in a bad way, I mean the hours can be long but the reward is pretty cool. The real dream is to be walking down the street or in a restaurant or where ever and overhear some stranger talking about one of the games I worked on(still waiting on that one). I don't even play many games anymore because making them is much more enjoyable to me now. So yeah it is my life because I made it that way.




You're right man, I can't understand one iota what it would be like to start your own business. Frankly, I don't think I could handle the pressure. I earn great money and I only have to think about work for 8 or so hours a day and odd weekends, which is more than enough of my life to dedicate to it. My dad is a work all day/night type, so I appreciate that I am probably projecting when it comes to being afraid of that way of life.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
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Re: Video Games [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #21118958 - 01/14/15 03:11 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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I appreciate all you've said there CJ. I also appreciate that growing apart often happens for various reasons, but I do think the instance I mentioned was a case of addiction. Staying up all night/not coming out/no responding to contact/etc. Hey, shit happens - as you say, it could have been any number of things that caused it and I realise I'm no better that a crusading parent (well, maybe not quite to that extent, but an interesting comparison) because of how I have shaped the thing that caused it as an evil in my mind. I'm glad it came out here and was brought to my attention.





I believe it, though maybe the video game addiction is more of a correlation to some other schizoid like mental illness and not causal?  I'm just saying the same tendencies of staying up all night, not going out, no responding to contact etc. could have manifested in a million other ways aside from video games, and there's a deeper underlying meaning to it all, but it's easier to blame them than figure out what's really happening. :strokebeard:  On the exterior it appears as though if only he didn't start playing those damned games, but afaik it was just bound to be something else.


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If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.

It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.

I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too.  If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.

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