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onwardupward
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air exchange required for pinning? 2
#21097481 - 01/10/15 03:17 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Kind people:
First can I thank you for your time and dedication in helping noobs like me on my path to trying to cure my tired brain!
I'm about to birth PF cakes tomorrow for the first time ever (excited and terrified) and intend to dunk for 20 hours and then roll in verm. I'm using Midwest Grow kit; I know - but too late to stop now. The kit is sent with 56 quart FC, three air exhaust holes on one end and one inlet hole where the air enters from the airpump by way of a hydration jar with hydroton rocks at the bottom. I have a few major concerns:
1. The airpump that comes with the kit does not have the capacity to fully exchange the 56 quart FC every hour, EVEN IF all the tubing connections were completely sealed with silicone or tape. So I have purchased a seperate airpump with an air exchange capacity of 234 quarts per hour. That would equate to 4 complete air exchanges per hour. My question is; is 4 complete air exchanges per hour overkill? Or is it OK once the humidity readings remain in the 95th percentile region?
2. Currently there is only one air intake hole near the lid of the container. If he were to use the 234 quart capacity air-pump, should I drill 3 further air intake holes in the FC and run 4 air lines from the humidifier into the FC? If the answer is YES, where should those air intake holes be drilled; Near the bottom of the chamber just above the perlite where the co2 accumulates or near the top, parallel to where the three 1" exhaust holes are currently located (right beside each other under one of the end handles near the top)? Seems to me that this would displace the co2 upwards and out the exhaust holes at the top? Or should the circulation pattern be reversed: exhaust holes be switched to just above the perlite and the air intake holes be placed near the top of the FC?
3. I'm using a ceder-lined closet ( 4'x4'x8') to place the FC in. Should I steralize the closet with bleach or lysol or something before placing FC inside? I've already emptied it out and vacuumed all the surfaces but I'm afraid the Ceder might give off something nasty into the air.
4. Should I run a small fan inside the closet to keep air circulating or is that unnecessary since I'm not using a SGFC, but the midwest Kit with air-pump with tiny hepa-filter squeezed into air-tube?
Again, I cannot express my appreciation for your time and experience in these matters.
Edited by onwardupward (01/10/15 03:29 PM)
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: onwardupward] 1
#21097488 - 01/10/15 03:19 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I stopped reading at "airpump"
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21097495 - 01/10/15 03:20 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I didn't get past grow kit and posting here for a friend
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: bodhisatta]
#21097514 - 01/10/15 03:26 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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You aren't fooling anybody saying you need advice for your buddy........ 
That being said, grow kits are for suckers. Don't be a sucker.
If you want to grow mushrooms look through some teks.
I'll help you out, research this: PF tek
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: bodhisatta]
#21097520 - 01/10/15 03:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Go buy some perlite, get your drill out, and turn the tub into a SHOTGUN FRUITING CHAMBER (sgfc). A quick search on that term will show you the path.
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: SynKyd]
#21097535 - 01/10/15 03:32 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Results proven link list to TEKs and Procedures / Shroomery Tips, PF/BRF TEK / Bulk substrate + monotubs / Answers on misconceptions and outdated info / New User Guide Click here / Up to date time tested, peer reviewed methods, follow proven winners for success the first time
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: bodhisatta]
#21097539 - 01/10/15 03:32 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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lesson learned. Switched to 1st person. Wondered why other people were talking about their dog growing shrooms. I'm new to this. Sorry.
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: onwardupward]
#21097550 - 01/10/15 03:35 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Folks: Here's my major problem re: SGFC. I travel at up to a week at a time so it seemed to me that I have no other option but to try the air-pump system. And am frantic for it to work, hence the questions. thanks again
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: onwardupward]
#21097553 - 01/10/15 03:36 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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monotub
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: bodhisatta]
#21097645 - 01/10/15 03:56 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: onwardupward] 1
#21097903 - 01/10/15 04:56 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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All these previous answers suck serious musty sack.
Three air holes and your current air pump sound sufficient. You're not exactly trying to supply oxygen to a fully grown animal in there.
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: Morgenstern]
#21097912 - 01/10/15 04:58 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
Morgenstern said: All these previous answers suck serious musty sack.
Three air holes and your current air pump sound sufficient. You're not exactly trying to supply oxygen to a fully grown animal in there.
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: cronicr]
#21099063 - 01/10/15 09:09 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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Morgenstern said: All these previous answers suck serious musty sack.
Three air holes and your current air pump sound sufficient. You're not exactly trying to supply oxygen to a fully grown animal in there.

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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: taGyo]
#21099163 - 01/10/15 09:41 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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(OP, check links in my sig..)
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Edited by Tourmaline (01/10/15 09:42 PM)
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: taGyo]
#21099198 - 01/10/15 09:54 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Morgenstern said: All these previous answers suck serious musty sack.
Three air holes and your current air pump sound sufficient. You're not exactly trying to supply oxygen to a fully grown animal in there.


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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: onwardupward]
#21099491 - 01/10/15 11:25 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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An airpump works, I used to use one, but definitely inferior to a SGFC or a direct-connected comb humidifier set-up.
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 2
#21099558 - 01/10/15 11:49 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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You could fruit in a toilet and still pull a gram. Given how much the OP has probably shelled out for a kit I imagine he wants some good results (which he will be hard pressed to get with a kit). Airpumps are unlikely to give him good results.
Cubes are weeds, they will fight to live. That don't mean you can half ass everything and see 200% BE. SGFC or monotubs FTW
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21099623 - 01/11/15 12:14 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Morgenstern said: All these previous answers suck serious musty sack.
Three air holes and your current air pump sound sufficient. You're not exactly trying to supply oxygen to a fully grown animal in there.



My fish air pumps say OTHERWISE
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Re: air exchange required for pinning? [Re: Morgenstern]
#21099626 - 01/11/15 12:17 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Shit, I onced shelled out 400 grams total (dry) from a single cake, its only air exchange being me farting in its general direction twice a day.
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#21099632 - 01/11/15 12:21 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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