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jessepinkman
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: cronicr]
#21089181 - 01/08/15 07:22 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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RR? He is a drug using, non microbiologist....
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cronicr



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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: jessepinkman]
#21089186 - 01/08/15 07:23 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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yet he has run a successful farm for years i also showed you my documented thread
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jessepinkman
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: cronicr]
#21089192 - 01/08/15 07:24 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have proof from the people who have degrees. What about you? Anecdotal evidence at best.
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cronicr



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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: jessepinkman]
#21089197 - 01/08/15 07:26 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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can grains be prepped without a pc?
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: jessepinkman]
#21089219 - 01/08/15 07:31 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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if you're going by your bachelor degree college chemistry teachers definition of sterile then none of what we do is ever sterile. We do sterilize and we can sterilize at 0psi. all of the organisms that can survive our sterilization procedures can be killed at 15PSI for 24 hours. Everything we do is less than that even. 0 can be used for 8 or so hours 15psi for in the range of 60-120m. this kills any spoilage organisms that would interfere with the normal colonization mycelium over the whole substrate.
RR is responsible for some of the best edible cultures in the world, what have you done...
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: bodhisatta]
#21089244 - 01/08/15 07:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: RR is responsible for some of the best edible cultures in the world, what have you done...
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jessepinkman
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: bodhisatta]
#21089247 - 01/08/15 07:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
if you're going by your bachelor degree college chemistry teachers definition of sterile then none of what we do is ever sterile. We do sterilize and we can sterilize at 0psi. all of the organisms that can survive our sterilization procedures can be killed at 15PSI for 24 hours. Everything we do is less than that even. 0 can be used for 8 or so hours 15psi for in the range of 60-120m. this kills any spoilage organisms that would interfere with the normal colonization mycelium over the whole substrate.
RR is responsible for some of the best edible cultures in the world, what have you done...
Provided helpful links. Explained things that others obviously can't comprehend. And I didn't post stupid bullshit like this.
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bodhisatta said: Things started out like every noob. Wanting the easy way out. Three in-vitro bags were purchased and noc'd. Only one bag had sporulation occur and began to pin well before 100% colonization. This bag produced what was nearly between 40-50g wet on the first flush according to a very crappy analog kitchen scale. These first few had dropped their spores so harvesting happened. The bag was cut one inch above the substrate layer and still before 100% colonization. The scissors were rubbed with alcohol but nothing extremely sterile happened during this procedure. The bag was placed in an opaque blue tub with an inch of soaked perlite and then probably checked once every two days fanned once and sprayed with 3% h2o2 only. This bag managed to flush 4 more times yielding a healthy amount.
The other two bags by this time had no growth still and were cut at the top. A chunk of the first bag was placed into both of the other two and nearly 2 weeks later they were almost 100% colonized with lots of pins in the bag which was quite dry by now. These were both placed in that same opaque, not much light, no FAE worst possible scenario fruiting chamber and are both doing very well and are on tertiary flushes.
By this time PF cakes were made and are now 100% colonized and going about consolidation. A real fruiting chamber will be the home for these cakes. With that in mind should the expectation be a holy shit moment in comparison the the performance of in-vitro bags.
I really think it's impossible to get contamination considering I opened these bags on a carpet and took no care with sanitation after I gave up on them, but they still managed to perform excellent. And after all that the horrible fruiting chamber still worked well.
Also, I sprayed the crap out of pins with h2o2. The bags were saturated with no where to run off either so it was pooling in the bottom of the bags. This was straight 3% h2o2 too and it never hurt the pins.
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blojo02184
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: cronicr]
#21089258 - 01/08/15 07:37 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://nchfp.uga.edu/how/can_01/sterile_jars.html Apparently, the USDA says you "sterilize" your empty canning jars by boiling them for 10 minutes at sea level.
I guess your whole argument that temps above 212°f / 100°c are needed is null and void.
USDA, a confirmed non drug user resource.
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: jessepinkman]
#21089272 - 01/08/15 07:38 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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You know what is going to keep me warm at night?
My degrees man!
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jessepinkman
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: PussyFart]
#21089293 - 01/08/15 07:42 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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PussyFart said: You know what is going to keep me warm at night?
My degrees man!
At least you find comfort in something not intellectual, because it wouldn't suit you!
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jessepinkman
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: jessepinkman]
#21089295 - 01/08/15 07:43 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Know what keeps me warm at night? My 240k salary.
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cronicr



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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: jessepinkman] 1
#21089299 - 01/08/15 07:43 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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he won't get it guys
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jessepinkman
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: cronicr]
#21089310 - 01/08/15 07:45 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh I totally get the circle jerk, and you being like "GUYS", he won't get it. "Let's band together against him". lol
I know that is all you have....
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blojo02184
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: jessepinkman]
#21089318 - 01/08/15 07:45 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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jessepinkman said: Know what keeps me warm at night? My 240k salary.
240000 pennies isn't a lot my friend... And why change automan?
Trying to hide?
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PussyFart
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: cronicr]
#21089323 - 01/08/15 07:46 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well......Jesse Pinkman was nothing but a rat who thought he knew it all........he got what he deserved in the end......maybe this will play out like on tv?
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Edited by PussyFart (01/08/15 07:46 PM)
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: jessepinkman] 1
#21089327 - 01/08/15 07:47 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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jessepinkman said: Oh I totally get the circle jerk, and you being like "GUYS", he won't get it. "Let's band together against him". lol
I know that is all you have....
you are the only one arguing here
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jessepinkman
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: blojo02184]
#21089332 - 01/08/15 07:48 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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blojo02184 said:
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jessepinkman said: Know what keeps me warm at night? My 240k salary.
240000 pennies isn't a lot my friend... And why change automan?
Trying to hide?
Cant even do math...I'm sure you don't even make 240,000 pennies in a year. That's actually $2400, genius.
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jessepinkman
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: cronicr]
#21089341 - 01/08/15 07:49 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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jessepinkman said: Oh I totally get the circle jerk, and you being like "GUYS", he won't get it. "Let's band together against him". lol
I know that is all you have....
you are the only one arguing here
No, no...you have been arguing with me, even though, I have the facts to back up what I say. I don't have to be like "well, rr said this or that"...lol
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cronicr



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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: jessepinkman]
#21089352 - 01/08/15 07:51 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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i have facts to back it up...grains can be prepped without a pc....FACT
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Re: steralizesation time at 9 psi ? [Re: jessepinkman] 1
#21089353 - 01/08/15 07:51 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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ur taking the word "sterilization" way too literally here bud
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