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I'm Going to Community College next year
#21065332 - 01/04/15 11:15 AM (9 years, 26 days ago) |
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I posted a while back on the Pub about my dismay of likely not being able to go to a 4-yea University with my shitty 2.4 GPA. Anyway I had a ray of hope that perhaps I'd be able to go if I raised my grades up by then but now its 3 months later and my grades are in the dump. There is no way for my grades to improve by the deadline for either University of my choice and I haven't checked my recent SAT score but I do know that its probably not high enough to add weight to my chances of being accepted into AU or Towson. Regardless I have come to terms with me going to Community college, a lot of my friends that were seniors last year went to CC and they weren't half bad students so why the fuck not.
I'm planning on doing a 1 year program at Montgomery College so that I can get the fuck out of CC fast and be at the 4 year University of my choice by fall of 2016 or maybe even sooner if possible. I'm undecided on my major or career path but I have some ideas but thats not really important to me as right now. I just really want to get out of CC as soon as I can with grades good enough to get into a university. And I'm even more desperate to get out of High school quicker. Senioritis hit me hard and its a huge part of the reason I stopped giving a fuck about school and work because I'm simply so fatigued by school and all the bullshit it puts me through. I honestly can't wait for college so that I never have to deal with the bullshit that HS was again.
Anyway how many of you guys went straight to CC after HS and tell me about your experience. Did you guys do 2 year programs or 1 year programs?
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Janky Tits] 1
#21066473 - 01/04/15 03:47 PM (9 years, 25 days ago) |
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If highschool has you fatigued, I am afraid to inform you that college is more of the same. That being said, you can get a world class education with nothing but a library card. Why I mention this is what you receive from your education is directly proportional to what YOU put into it. If you want to party/meet girls(or boys) etc. do yourself a favor and save your money. On the other hand, if you are committed to enhancing yourself via education, you can get a wonderful one starting at a community college (and save a boat load of cash too).
Personally, I attained a 2 year degree at a community college. My grades were such that I transferred to a 4 year institution with a full scholarship. After 2 year there I achieved a B.S. in chemistry, with grades good enough to be admitted to several Ph. D. programs in the chemistry/biology range (funded via research/training grants so I was paid to continue my education). I went on to attain a MS in chemistry (left phd program for family reasons). Going to a community college was one of the best decisions of my life.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Janky Tits]
#21072182 - 01/05/15 05:00 PM (9 years, 24 days ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: I posted a while back on the Pub about my dismay of likely not being able to go to a 4-yea University with my shitty 2.4 GPA. Anyway I had a ray of hope that perhaps I'd be able to go if I raised my grades up by then but now its 3 months later and my grades are in the dump. There is no way for my grades to improve by the deadline for either University of my choice and I haven't checked my recent SAT score but I do know that its probably not high enough to add weight to my chances of being accepted into AU or Towson. Regardless I have come to terms with me going to Community college, a lot of my friends that were seniors last year went to CC and they weren't half bad students so why the fuck not.
I'm planning on doing a 1 year program at Montgomery College so that I can get the fuck out of CC fast and be at the 4 year University of my choice by fall of 2016 or maybe even sooner if possible. I'm undecided on my major or career path but I have some ideas but thats not really important to me as right now. I just really want to get out of CC as soon as I can with grades good enough to get into a university. And I'm even more desperate to get out of High school quicker. Senioritis hit me hard and its a huge part of the reason I stopped giving a fuck about school and work because I'm simply so fatigued by school and all the bullshit it puts me through. I honestly can't wait for college so that I never have to deal with the bullshit that HS was again.
Anyway how many of you guys went straight to CC after HS and tell me about your experience. Did you guys do 2 year programs or 1 year programs?
First, why do you want to pursue "higher education?"
Second, community college is not a bad thing, by any means. It is typically significantly cheaper than large universities.
In one way, it is a great alternative to eliminate Gen. Ed. courses on the cheap, while exploring all kinds of courses that may or may not interest you in the future. I say this since you mention that you aren't sure what you want to major in.
That being said, I do recommend NOT finishing all your Gen. Ed. before declaring your major, as you will otherwise be inundating yourself with, largely difficult and/or important classes all at once. I would recommend keeping at least 15 hours of Gen. Ed to complete throughout your junior/senior years to give you some "easy" classes among your major/minor classes. IME, English and History Gen. Ed. were the most difficult, as far as workload (papers, studying, etc...). Finish those first, then knock off your other Gen. Ed. requirements as you see fit while working on your major and minor.
Unfortunately, in today's job market, assuming you're in the US, a college degree (BA/BS, etc...) is not that helpful, and further education is likely required to put you ahead of the average (which is quickly becoming the average). In some fields, even a Master's only puts you among the average.
Good luck, and think twice before going into debt to gain an education. Try to get any scholarships possible
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: demiu5]
#21107529 - 01/12/15 12:43 PM (9 years, 17 days ago) |
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go to CC and then find a school (might even be the same CC) that will actually prepare you for a job... meaning not some nebulous major.
The only 3 real useful degrees from universities are medicine, law and business. everything else can be better learned by throwing yourself into the workforce or by going to community college.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: SneezingPenis]
#21154055 - 01/21/15 07:36 AM (9 years, 9 days ago) |
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Its cheaper in the long run if you get a 2 year associates degree, get transfer credits, and then go to the university only after you take all credits available at the cc level, for your university degree. I like cc... Seems easy enogh
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: blojo02184]
#21159903 - 01/21/15 09:21 PM (9 years, 8 days ago) |
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Going to community college was one of the best choices I ever made. What subjects interest you??
I could have got into university with my grades but chose not to, mainly due to my uncertainty of what to study, and also the huge financial & time commitments I would have faced as a result.
Taking a two-year carpentry program atm. Roughly half of our time is spent in a well-equipped shop with quality equipment, and the other half is spent in class discussing topics and doing book work, math, etc. Actually understanding and contemplating the concepts taught, instead of just being able to perform them, will set you well on your way to being a true craftsman, as opposed to just a laborer. The amount of knowledge and science behind any hands-on trade you might study is seemingly endless if you are motivated to dig deeper than the average joe and apply yourself to learning something new.
I will come out of this with a minimal financial burden, and a wealth of information and experience I would never otherwise have acquired. Also, I could easily choose to take an entirely different route in life at any point after school, & still retain those skill sets for other endeavors in the future. Ie building a cabin/home, furniture, cabinetry... home renovations. Side jobs.
Skills set you ahead of the masses. I hated every underpaid retail/kitchen job I had worked until this point & could easily see myself in some realm of my trade for the foreseeable future.
Good luck!
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Janky Tits]
#21192308 - 01/28/15 03:58 PM (9 years, 1 day ago) |
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I went to a community college for 2 years. Transferred my credits to a 4 year school (I'm at now). Much cheaper route to take. Class is pretty easy too.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: SneezingPenis]
#21192320 - 01/28/15 04:00 PM (9 years, 1 day ago) |
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SneezingPenis said: go to CC and then find a school (might even be the same CC) that will actually prepare you for a job... meaning not some nebulous major.
The only 3 real useful degrees from universities are medicine, law and business. everything else can be better learned by throwing yourself into the workforce or by going to community college.
Dead wrong. Education needs a 4 year degree. I agree with u though for majors like criminal justice.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: masterkorin]
#21205460 - 01/31/15 04:37 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you wanna go to certain universities, you should apply to your schools of choice. Don't count yourself out now I got into my school of choice and I got a 1.0 gpa senior year. The essays are what make the big difference. CC could be better for you though, depends how your home situation is I suppose. Personally living away from home gave me a chance to be more like the person I wanna be
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: el_barto]
#21240772 - 02/07/15 06:44 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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There are many viable careers that only require an associates & certification. I blew off high school, fucked off for a few years, did a year of community college that I didn't take seriously, then fucked off for a few more years before finally figuring out what I wanted to do & going back. I went to a different community college, kicked ass cause I was older & more mature, graduated with honors & obtained my certification. I'm now working at the most prestigious institution in my field....in the world, and I absolutely love my job. I'm not rolling in dough, but I make a comfortable living, have awesome benefits, and I love what I do. I also didn't rack up tens of thousands of dollars in debt to do so. So yeah, community college is great. Like anything though, you get what you put in. OP, seems like you'd benefit from taking some time off after you graduate to fuck around & experience life before taking the college plunge.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Dark_Star]
#21260583 - 02/11/15 07:51 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I graduated high school with a 2.3 GPA. Got into a college on my SAT but dropped out a year later.
Then I spent a few years at a community college.
It was there I found a field I actually thought I might enjoy working in. It was cheap enough that I could save up to transfer back to a 4 year, I could take all manner of odd random electives to see what I liked, and it kept me from just running to a stand still and becoming a basement dwelling societal leech.
I transferred to a university, kicked ass in the classes in my major, got a BS magna cum laude, and next semester I'll finish my Masters. Its been great.
Granted, I didn't get a BS till I was 27, I'm almost 80,000$ in debt, and I haven't the slightest idea what I want to do when I "grow up", but I don't regret it. I may go on to a PhD, maybe I'll get a research gig, maybe I'll work on starting my own company. I have a hell of a lot of skill, and more importantly, a few pieces of paper to prove it.
Just don't give up. So what if you're a few years behind the curve, at least you're moving. Find something you feel even the tiniest bit of passion for and go for it, kicking and screaming if need be. The 100 lvl classes are always the hardest. They're usually taught for gen ed students, and will probably in topics you dont give a damn about. Tough it out, and get to the good stuff, the classes you look forward to, whatever they are. Once you find your groove, its amazing how much easier it all becomes.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: matsc]
#21261770 - 02/11/15 11:08 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I did ok in high school, 3.3 GPA, got suspended and started at community college. I got my one year nursing license, then did some basics , all at a community college, did classes for three years, transferred to a four year, and got my bachelors in chemistry with a 3.7 at 27 years old. It's not about where you start, it's about where you finish. I owe 24000 but I would owe more like fifty thousand if it weren't for community college. I think you should take your basics there that every degree requires, and by then you may have a good idea what you want to get degree wise. It took me five or six years to figure I would go for doctor, but most people know right away, or at least think they know! Get your basic then transfer to a four year with your good grades. Good luck.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Janky Tits]
#21441619 - 03/22/15 12:09 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Community colleges are great...I did Gen Eds at a local CC, got an Associates at a State University, and now I'm on track to start Arizona State this fall for Bachelor's of Science. All how much you put into it yourself...good luck
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: hofmann308]
#21497928 - 04/03/15 07:55 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Graduated high school with a 1.7 GPA, went to community college on a full ride scholarship for Debate and Forensics. Took 3 years to finish a 2 year degree, was largely because i mostly wanted to party. Ended up graduating with a 2.6 GPA, but only because I ended up stepping up my game the last year after flirting with failure too much (most of my GPA damage was from my second semester, I kept staying home with my buddy and smoking all day).
I'm now attending a university for Chemistry and Secondary Education (with certification for Chemistry, Math, Physics, and Earth/Space Science). I'll give you some sage advice, as my mistakes have basically made those three years at community college a waste (I'll be at my university for 4.5 years when I graduate with my degree).
My Sage advice is this: decide your major OR at least the field of that major within the first two semesters. Otherwise you're just taking Gen Ed (which might not even count depending on the major and the college (my chemistry degree requires 6 extra social science courses compare to my education degree)!), and in many Science majors you want to plow through math courses as quickly as possible. Community College does not stress this enough; Depending on your major, if in science, you may need to go through quite a bit of math. I only took College algebra at community college, this hindered my ability to have a better course load because a lot of classes had to wait because I hadn't taken X class and by the time I could I had 2 classes only available at the same time.
Some Geology majors get away with very little Calculus if any, for a chemistry degree Calc I (differential), Calc II (Integral), and Calc III (Multivariable) are required. Physics *minors* and physics teachers here are required to get through elementary differential equations.
Or if you're a math major you should get through calc III as soon as possible, because many many many many math courses require calc II or calc III not because of required material, but because of the academic maturity shown by completing those courses.
Honestly if you can get an A/B in a decently difficult calc II class you have the study habits required to pass college.
Trust me, don't be me and just going to CC because you should. Taking a year off is fine, if you need to do it. Don't knock some chick up and make your life harder, but for me working a summer at a factory and working full time a year at a pizza place motivated me. School isn't about being hard, it's about being disciplined.
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I already knew what my major was going to be long before I went to college. So I went to community college for 2 years getting the gen Ed classes out of the way then transferred to a 4 year college. It was far cheaper to take classes at cc. And I didn't care if the level of instruction was low for subjects I didn't care for. For me it was all about money, I've never had much of a problem getting high grades. I also never cared about the "college experience"
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Thebooedocksaint said: Some Geology majors get away with very little Calculus if any, for a chemistry degree Calc I (differential), Calc II (Integral), and Calc III (Multivariable) are required. Physics *minors* and physics teachers here are required to get through elementary differential equations.
I'm studying Geology right now (BS) and I have to take Calc I and Calc II, and then either Calc III or Stats 1000. I used to dislike math, but since coming here I took Algebra and PreCalc and now that I'm actually paying attention as opposed to goofing off in high school, it doesn't seem that bad. I'm at the end of freshman year, took 18 credits this semester and have a 3.75. Most of my gen eds are done, I just need to do Co-Reqs (Physics I & II, Chem II, and Calc I & II). I hate chem, but I've been studying 6 hours a day for the last week for my next exam in a week. Fuck I'm tired of chem.
I think the most important thing to realize is that College is about being responsible. The time to fuck around was in high school. College is the most important and serious time in my life, with the rest of my adult career banking off it.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: masterkorin]
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SneezingPenis said: go to CC and then find a school (might even be the same CC) that will actually prepare you for a job... meaning not some nebulous major.
The only 3 real useful degrees from universities are medicine, law and business. everything else can be better learned by throwing yourself into the workforce or by going to community college.
Dead wrong. Education needs a 4 year degree. I agree with u though for majors like criminal justice.
Education needs a 4 year degree? What. ..? I got an associates in healthcare at a community college and make more money then 5 people I know who graduated from a 4 year university. Some of them do not even have jobs in their fields.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: EDM]
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It depends on the field. Most of the sciences require so much background information and hands on training you basically need a 4 year to get through it all. Other cases require training for some very specific exams and certifications that are built around college courses (Engineering, for example).
But some cases, you really can just self train to the point of proficiency and dive in. Computer sciences, for example, is quite dense with degree-less folks.
So, all depends on what you want to do. If you dont know yet, well, start taking random electives at a Community College till you find something that seems fun and follow the road until you either graduate or feel you know enough to get a job. No "one size fits all" answer here, just do what feels best for you.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: EDM]
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SneezingPenis said: go to CC and then find a school (might even be the same CC) that will actually prepare you for a job... meaning not some nebulous major.
The only 3 real useful degrees from universities are medicine, law and business. everything else can be better learned by throwing yourself into the workforce or by going to community college.
Dead wrong. Education needs a 4 year degree. I agree with u though for majors like criminal justice.
Education needs a 4 year degree? What. ..? I got an associates in healthcare at a community college and make more money then 5 people I know who graduated from a 4 year university. Some of them do not even have jobs in their fields.
Well, would you want a bunch of morons who couldn't graduate a bachelors degree teach children? I mean without also getting a chemistry degree I don't know how people trust chemistry teachers. 
Frankly even with a chemistry major I feel vastly undereducated in chemistry to teach it, but the state says I've learned everything about chemistry I need.
Also us science educators, at least around these parts, can get basically all of their loans forgiven. So I'm basically getting two majors and two minors for free (eventually, after I enlighten the young-lings).
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Janky Tits]
#21902116 - 07/05/15 05:57 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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All the smart people go to community college first. It's waaay cheaper, any mistakes you make are more easily fixable, and by the time you transfer you're so used to college that you kick ass at the university level.
All the smartest people I met in college went to community college first.
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SneezingPenis said: go to CC and then find a school (might even be the same CC) that will actually prepare you for a job... meaning not some nebulous major.
The only 3 real useful degrees from universities are medicine, law and business. everything else can be better learned by throwing yourself into the workforce or by going to community college.
Dead wrong. Education needs a 4 year degree. I agree with u though for majors like criminal justice.
Education needs a 4 year degree? What. ..? I got an associates in healthcare at a community college and make more money then 5 people I know who graduated from a 4 year university. Some of them do not even have jobs in their fields.
Well, would you want a bunch of morons who couldn't graduate a bachelors degree teach children? I mean without also getting a chemistry degree I don't know how people trust chemistry teachers. 
Frankly even with a chemistry major I feel vastly undereducated in chemistry to teach it, but the state says I've learned everything about chemistry I need.
Also us science educators, at least around these parts, can get basically all of their loans forgiven. So I'm basically getting two majors and two minors for free (eventually, after I enlighten the young-lings).
Can you elaborate on the loan forgiveness factor?
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Well if you are talking about "teaching" specifically, I get your point. I would definitely want someone who has a very decent education/knowledge on the subject.
I have taken chemistry and my teacher was a complete idiot. Did he know chemistry? Maybe... Did he know how to teach? Hell no.
I have had similar completely horrible teachers to where I have had to teach myself an entire class.
I am simply trying to tell OP or whoever it matters to that they can go to a CC in a short time and make more money then most people getting university degrees. Then you can upgrade from that associate degree and make even more money.
I see far to many retards going to a university and getting a worthless degree.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: EDM]
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I can hear that. Out of my class over the summer 50% of my class, with all secondary ed majors, were music/art ed. That's cool and all, but I see why science teachers are in high demand. You can get paid better with basically the same courses.
There are programs to get your loan forgiven/paid for time teaching in a high need district and subject. One of them is the teach USA stuff everyone talks about (some colleges rename it). In practice you receive a grant, and if conditions aren't met they become a loan. There are also programs you can get involved with, according to my advisor, once I start teaching.
A lot of subjects have programs, but I know if you are in a physical or life science subject you will qualify.
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There's high demand for teachers in K-12, and they make okay money. This isn't at all the case for the college level. It's very competitive at the college level, has zero job security, and it pays very poorly. However, the job has other benefits.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: nooneman]
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I actually envy you Thebooedocksaint
I have quite the passion for certain subjects. I get excited when it comes to speaking of said topics. Most of the topics are science and technology.
I know of one guy who became a chemistry major. He then started school recently in order to become a pharmacist. Apparently that is a good route to take. 90+k a year most likely.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: EDM]
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I originally started out intending to head to pharmacy school after graduating, but changed my mind in my senior year. Basically I didn't feel like 4 years of 100k a year school, the research job market looked like crap, and I didn't want to work a retail gig. If you can deal with that, however, its a great field. Other related fields like medicinal chemistry are also options if you find you don't want to go for a PharmD, but still want to work in the industry.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: matsc]
#21903602 - 07/06/15 12:11 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Geology? That's my major atm
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: matsc]
#21910697 - 07/07/15 05:20 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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matsc said: So, all depends on what you want to do. If you dont know yet, well, start taking random electives at a Community College till you find something that seems fun and follow the road until you either graduate or feel you know enough to get a job. No "one size fits all" answer here, just do what feels best for you.
I would take this advice with a grain of salt. Although exploring your options is important there are many ways to do this and some which involve substantially less cost/time than pissing around in community college.
Don't get me wrong - I 100% support the advice to both explore your options and start in a community college if you aren't extremely directed. However - i'd recommend looking into volunteering and/or working in a field, job shadowing/networking and doing extensive soul searching and career/market research before i'd randomly choose a bunch of college courses and hope for the best.
Perhaps I am reading too much into the above statement. The responsible way to do this would be to identify a field (business/finance, science, arts...) and start looking at possible career paths and then taking the most general courses which will count as transfer credit down the line, no matter what you choose....
Taking random courses without a plan seems like a potential waste to time and money.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: PDU] 1
#21910797 - 07/07/15 05:36 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh yeah, if you know you can get a foot in the door in an industry/job you want without a certificate/degree/experience, by all means do so. I come from a background of an academic, and knew from the start that while I wasnt sure EXACTLY what it was I would end up, it was going to be one of the sciences. By "random electives" in my case I meant biology, geology, atmospheric sciences, microbiology, plant sci, physics, etc. I also took some courses I thought would be either fun (archaeology, for example) or I knew would cover gen eds (cinema, public speaking, etc). I also had some monumental failures (damn you economics).
So I had a general direction in mind when I started my randomness, this is true.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: matsc]
#21915900 - 07/08/15 04:45 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had little/no direction in life and picked up something I knew I was interested in learning and that would prove useful in the future. Im really happy with where I'm headed currently.
Finishing my carpentry diploma this Fall, been working in residential construction this summer building decks/houses and may go unionized in the industrial sector for a bit for increased pay/benefits. I want to float around and get some experience in finish work, cabinetry, foundations... etc. and just become an all-around skilled / experienced carpenter.
My end goal right now (strangely enough) is to get into fire fighting in a few years, after I have my interprovincial carpentry ticket, and do construction work on the side Planning on buying cheap property & building/living in a tiny house off the grid in the next couple years.
For now, it's work work work... pay off my student loans. And then take on the world! Once you get started on a certain path it gets easier to branch off and head in new directions.
But as stated, I would assess what your needs/wants are for a career and plan your education around it accordingly.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: CannAbyss]
#21916026 - 07/08/15 05:16 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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CannAbyss said: For now, it's work work work... pay off my student loans. And then take on the world! Once you get started on a certain path it gets easier to branch off and head in new directions.
Student loans from your trade cert. or a previous degree?
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: PDU]
#21916870 - 07/08/15 08:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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I had to take my trade schooling out of town and didn't have work for over half a year.. (Was living in small country town in dead of winter.. no vehicle) Racked up a fairly nice chunk of change to pay back.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: CannAbyss]
#21920301 - 07/09/15 02:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ive been thinking of going the trade school route for welding cause i cant afford uni right now and mostly to get my foot in the door with an engineering discipline. im wondering if its worth doing this for 2-3 years saving every dollar to put towards an academic degree in a chemistry related field, it seems to be the only thing i am passionate about really, but welding and fitting process pipes can apply to chemEng/MechEng right? Having knowledge and certs of that sort of thing is a plus on a resume i assume. Anything related to building/fixing shit is an asset to surviving during the zombie apocalypse
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Mi-Go]
#21921306 - 07/09/15 06:48 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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They're related to some degree but everything in the construction industry somewhat relates.
I wouldn't take pipefitting as the first steps of becoming an engineer If that's your real goal. Pipefitting is hella good money though, I know guys out west (Canada) doing metal fab/pipe fitting raking in 6 figures annually.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Mi-Go]
#21926502 - 07/10/15 10:39 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Mi-Go said: Ive been thinking of going the trade school route for welding cause i cant afford uni right now and mostly to get my foot in the door with an engineering discipline. im wondering if its worth doing this for 2-3 years saving every dollar to put towards an academic degree in a chemistry related field, it seems to be the only thing i am passionate about really, but welding and fitting process pipes can apply to chemEng/MechEng right? Having knowledge and certs of that sort of thing is a plus on a resume i assume. Anything related to building/fixing shit is an asset to surviving during the zombie apocalypse 
Welding and engineering have basically no relation. You would be far better off just working in a technical/construction position and getting experience that way, rather than wasting 6 months going to welding school and then looking for a job... Welding jobs in cities usually arn't all that abundant and pipe welders is actually another level, meaning you'd have to go to school, get a year of work experience and then go back to school.
Terrible plan and not thought out.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: PDU]
#21927706 - 07/11/15 07:27 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Im glad i heard that from someone phew! i was really thinking about diving into it, figured it would be beneficial some way or another but seeing as to how im broke it wouldve sucked to blow the remaining money i have left to actually do something with my life on something that has no relevance to what i plan to achieve in the end, hell even think id see a return on my investment enough to change careers by the time im 24 to my desired one. i had read somewhere you did welding so i knew youd be a good person to chime in on such a thing. Im about to start a cc i see alot of people branching out to good unis from it so its not a bad one and its cheap, theres some pretty good professors in it too, what would be a good route to take for someone who wants to enter,say,like a chemistry/pharmaceutical research field? Its the only subject i enjoyed in hs, and ive heard bad things about the job market with people with BAs, altho i plan on getting a masters definitley i see it worth the effort but i also think Eng would be more suitable for job placement.. hmm idk lol just trying to get my shit together im young and live alone
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Mi-Go]
#21928310 - 07/11/15 10:49 AM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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It's tough to offer advice in this situation and I am still rebuilding my life and trying to get things straight and i'll be 30 next month. In other words take what i say with a grain of salt.
CaptainH13 is a welder i believe; maybe shoot him a PM or at least search his posts for relevant info to that trade.
I "dived" into welding on a whim. I had come back from travelling, moved to a small island with my friend and his girlfriend (who was a bitch), had trouble getting a job and decided to leave. Stayed with my mom for a bit got a job cooking for the oil fields and was about to leave. Mom talked me into seeing if I could get in on a cancellation for a trade. I chose welding because it had basically no pre-requisite knowledge and I was scared of having to do math. Needless to say, there was a cancellation and I got into a class on extremely short notice.
I approached it as "sure, i'll move in with mom and go to school and then make big $$, 6 months - no problem." ... I was totally naive. I didn't even have a car and was totally clueless as to where the jobs were and how to get one. After school i sent out resumes all over the country and to the few local fabrication shops. Truth be told - welders mostly have a certain mentality, and i was kind of a scapegoat. Sure - I can weld, and did great on the book work ... but i didn't enjoy it and would always be miserable in that type of workplace. I never got work and quickly abandoned any plans of becoming a welder. In reality it was a total waste of $3000 and 6 months. Like you I figured i would use welding as "something to fall back on" and then switch careers when i was ready to choose the academic route. I thought a job would fall in my lap and completely neglected the reality of my personality and life situation...
That said - if you have a plan, you can come out of school in 6 months and make pretty decent cash and move up quickly.... Once you have your 2nd level you'll be making way upwards of $35/hr if you go to oil fields and weld pipe you'll possibly be making twice that or more. Can you handle that though - being surrounded by big, hairy, uncultured, rough men in a rough work environment. Working away from home, living in camp and working in crappy/remote locations? (obvious generalization, but largely true.)
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Mi-Go said: what would be a good route to take for someone who wants to enter,say,like a chemistry/pharmaceutical research field? Its the only subject i enjoyed in hs, and ive heard bad things about the job market with people with BAs, altho i plan on getting a masters definitley i see it worth the effort but i also think Eng would be more suitable for job placement.. hmm idk lol just trying to get my shit together im young and live alone
From my understanding a Bs. in Chemistry is basically garbage and you'll be lucky to get low paying/low skilled technician job. According to my chemistry professor during my HS upgrading (a PHD from University of California with industry experience and multiple patents) a PHD is absolutely necessary to get anywhere and then highly highly competitive. She didn't like designing "chemical systems" for industry and decided to teach highschool chemistry to adult learners instead.
Everything pharmaceutical is competitive entry and basically limited to high achievers....
Yes - engineering is a much more realistic career path, although i've heard some people engineering isn't the guarantee of a highpaying careers like it was in the past....
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: EDM]
#21928863 - 07/11/15 01:18 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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SneezingPenis said: go to CC and then find a school (might even be the same CC) that will actually prepare you for a job... meaning not some nebulous major.
The only 3 real useful degrees from universities are medicine, law and business. everything else can be better learned by throwing yourself into the workforce or by going to community college.
Dead wrong. Education needs a 4 year degree. I agree with u though for majors like criminal justice.
Education needs a 4 year degree? What. ..? I got an associates in healthcare at a community college and make more money then 5 people I know who graduated from a 4 year university. Some of them do not even have jobs in their fields.
Very true. I strongly suggest getting your associate degree at a community college then go from there. Around my area you can make 50 grand a year or more depending on what you do with just an associates degree.
People around here can get an associates degree for less then 10 grand then start working a very decent job with little or no debt depending on if they pay as they go or get student loans. Out of all my frinds who attended some type of higher education most of the ones who got a two year degree are making more money and had a hell of alot less debt then the ones who went on to get a 4 year degree. I live in an area that has alot of blue collar jobs so that plays a major role also.
My advice is do alot of research into what you want to do. Most people switch majors 2 or 3 times or more and that sometimes sets them back. So research research research and figure out what you want to do, if you want to stay close to home after college or move away, the type of job market in your area, or if you want to move figure out where the best job markets are that matches your major.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: DTCharlieB]
#21930582 - 07/11/15 07:58 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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The thing about associates degrees is they leave you with a very low glass ceiling - although you can get an entry level position that pays a living wage, you'll more often then not, progress your career far beyond that.
Or at least that's what i've been led to believe, please discuss!
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So research research research and figure out what you want to do, if you want to stay close to home after college or move away, the type of job market in your area, or if you want to move figure out where the best job markets are that matches your major.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: PDU]
#21931237 - 07/11/15 10:43 PM (8 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well the careers that you need just associates degrees for around my area can start out making around 30 to 50 grand a year but after 15 years you should be making over 100 grand a year. I mean it really just depends on what your going for. Some of those degrees will not amount to very much but there's jobs in my area where you just need a degree in anything to get hired and they are pretty darn good jobs.
We also have a lot of coal mining jobs and natural gas jobs. Which you don't need a degree at all and within a few years you could be making close to 100 grand a year. Mostly with the natural gas jobs they are booming in my area now but they are pretty labor intensive and some make you travel which some people don't mind and some do. To get into the mines you just have to take a week long course which is like 500 bucks and then you usually work a year or so for a pretty low wage kind of like a temp to permanent kind of thing then if they like you they'll hire you on starting out at like 26 bucks an hour or so with a lot of overtime if you want. But those jobs seem to be pretty risky also, I know a lot of people who went to the mines and made pretty good money for a few years then the mine got bought out and while there still working their hours have been cut significantly. This happens every few years but the work always seems to pick back up again.
It's nice to have a good degree in something but not necessary to make good money, if you can find something you like to do and then do your research and find as much information on it as you can that would be ideal. Some jobs promise you this and that but will just lie to you to get you to work.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: DTCharlieB]
#22029833 - 08/01/15 06:09 PM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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living in a university was quite the experience for me however everything i learned didn't need to be off someone else's dollar
i loved it though i met many quality people
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Janky Tits]
#22120683 - 08/21/15 04:36 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Xplicit RelapzZ said: Anyway how many of you guys went straight to CC after HS and tell me about your experience. Did you guys do 2 year programs or 1 year programs?
I dropped/failed out of high school when I was 15-16 so I had no choice other than trade school or community college. I had no idea what I wanted to do. I knew I didn't want to work at McDonalds or at some low paying miserable job the rest of my life. I also knew I wasn't stupid and had to do something until I did know what I wanted to do. Community college isn't as bad as it sounds. If I could change things or if I had graduated high school I still would have chosen community college. It's less expensive and more personal as opposed to a university where you're a face/number in an auditorium. Assuming your goal is to go to CC and a university after, I would suggest you complete all your general education classes there and get an Associate's
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: bukkake]
#22121081 - 08/21/15 08:19 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well
It looks like I'm going to CC. I'm kind of bummed that all my friends are moving into their dorms and I'm just stuck here but I realize it's not so bad. I gotta get my shit done in CC first before I can transfer or whatever. I was also pretty worried that everyone in CC was going to be ratchet and ghetto losers who didn't give a shit about anything and had nothing in common with me interest wise but I met some pretty awesome girls recently who have a lot of common interests with me like festivals, edm, and drugs and are also going to Community College which gives me hope that I'll meet some cool people at CC.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Janky Tits]
#22155691 - 08/28/15 10:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm at the university of pittsburgh, and I just want to go to community college. Fuck the "college experience" I'm so fucking done with it. I just want to be with my family and not have to deal with the real world
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Roflspammer]
#22155726 - 08/28/15 10:09 AM (8 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn bro that sux. I'm in CC right now and am happy I decided to go to CC instead of a four year college. I'm not ready for that shit. It's so fucking awesome, my schedule is lenient and flexible. I literally have 2 classes and have to go to school for like 4 or so hours a week. I literally go To school on Tuesday afternoon and Thursday afternoons. Holy shit this is the life, high school was hell. Having to wake up early as fuck at like 5:30, having to catch the bus the first two years and drive out the last 2 years early in the morning and having to attended a fucking insufferable long school day 5 days a week. I can't even believe I managed that for 12+ years of my fucking life. CC is so fucking awesome. 2 classes is the way to go and it's so relieving.
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Re: I'm Going to Community College next year [Re: Janky Tits]
#22184511 - 09/03/15 07:28 PM (8 years, 4 months ago) |
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Plus CC is cheap.
I made money attending CC.
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