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DEA Global Authority
    #2106425 - 11/14/03 03:10 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Can anybody tell me why the DEA has global authority? Since when did the rest of the world ask for help combating this elusive enemy?
I know the UN doesn't particularly like illegal drugs but they don't go out of their way to jail hundreds of thousands of people for nonviolent crime. In fact they actively object to it...


On another note, Canada has cut itself off of North America and become part of Europe. Proof. Anybody have some good links to impartial news?

Besides gnn, onion, and register


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: blink]
    #2106651 - 11/14/03 04:14 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

If I'm not mistaken, they only have the authority to go into other countries if those countries are cooperative with them. They only have global authority because the rest of the world lets them have global authority.


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: silversoul7]
    #2106713 - 11/14/03 04:32 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

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They only have global authority because the rest of the world lets them have global authority.




It should be noted that the US gets most countries to cooperate with its drug policy via coercion, be it military threats or economic threats (embargoes, etc)



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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2107204 - 11/14/03 07:23 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

It should be noted that the US gets most countries to cooperate with its drug policy via coercion, be it military threats or economic threats (embargoes, etc)

economic "threats" are not coercion. yes, the DEA can only operate in other countries when they are cooperating, and they usually only do it in places where there is some product being manufactured that is destined for the US. there's also some kind of UN agreement against drugs... it still sucks though.


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: ]
    #2107536 - 11/14/03 09:31 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

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economic "threats" are not coercion




so you're saying that there is nothing coercive about the US goverment restricting me, by force if necessary, from buying Cuban cigars?

keep in mind that the US govt is acting on behalf of 300 million individuals who may or may not share their dislike of the Cuban govt.



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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2107572 - 11/14/03 09:49 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

so you're saying that there is nothing coercive about the US goverment restricting me, by force if necessary, from buying Cuban cigars?

you have a point. most of the economics threats are indeed coercive. i hadn't looked at it like that.


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: blink]
    #2107603 - 11/14/03 10:09 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

NWO


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2107622 - 11/14/03 10:14 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

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DoctorJ said:
It should be noted that the US gets most countries to cooperate with its drug policy via coercion, be it military threats or economic threats (embargoes, etc)



You are correct, but you forgot bribery.


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: Evolving]
    #2107623 - 11/14/03 10:15 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

shhhhhhhhhhhhh! :wink:


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: Evolving]
    #2107664 - 11/14/03 10:33 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

Which also takes the form of economics...incentives and such...bloody hell, i need to get on that paper already. Fuck...the idea just keeps coming into my eyes. More later.
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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2107680 - 11/14/03 10:40 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

DoctorJ writes:

It should be noted that the US gets most countries to cooperate with its drug policy via coercion, be it military threats or economic threats (embargoes, etc)

Which country has the US threatened with military action if it won't go along with US drug policy? Specifics, please.

Which country has the US threatened with an embargo if it won't go along with US drug policy? Specifics, please. And no, Cuba doesn't count. The four decade old embargo of Cuba was not instituted because Cuba wasn't following US drug policy.

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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: Phred]
    #2107816 - 11/14/03 11:37 PM (14 years, 11 days ago)

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Which country has the US threatened with military action if it won't go along with US drug policy? Specifics, please.



I'm a little rusty on my history in this area, but didn't the U.S. use some kind of military action in Panama against Noriega?


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: silversoul7]
    #2107930 - 11/15/03 12:14 AM (14 years, 11 days ago)

silversoul7 writes:

I'm a little rusty on my history in this area, but didn't the U.S. use some kind of military action in Panama against Noriega?

If you mean they took military action after Panama declared war on the US, then yes.

from http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/section/Panama_History.asp --

On Dec. 15, 1989, the Panamanian legislature declared Noriega president and proclaimed that the United States and Panama were in a state of war. The same day a U.S. marine was killed by Panamanian soldiers. On Dec. 20, the United States responded with ?Operation Just Cause,? attacking Panama City with a combined military force of over 25,000 soldiers in an effort to remove Noriega from power.

from http://www.tnl.net/when/12/15 --

December 15th in History
1890: While resisting wrongful arrest Sitting Bull, the legendary Sioux chief,was killed by police, in South Dakota
1939: In Seaford, Delaware, Nylon commercially produced for the first time
1964: Maple Leaf' formally adopted as the symbol for the Canadian national flag
1982: Reputed to be 'Robin Hoods' tree, the 'Major Oak' in Sherwood forest, is fitted with a fire alarm
1989: Panama declares war on the United States

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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: Phred]
    #2108319 - 11/15/03 03:47 AM (14 years, 10 days ago)



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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
    #2108340 - 11/15/03 04:01 AM (14 years, 10 days ago)

Pink, do you agree with the rest of DoctorJ's statement, besides the military threats part?


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2108359 - 11/15/03 04:09 AM (14 years, 10 days ago)

It should be noted that the US gets most countries to cooperate with its drug policy via coercion, be it military threats or economic threats (embargoes, etc)

Unquestionably. The economic pressure the US levers on any country that suggests relaxing drug laws is immense.


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: Xlea321]
    #2108631 - 11/15/03 08:48 AM (14 years, 10 days ago)

Yeah, let's not forget the recent Canadian marijuana situation. The US threatened to fuck with the boarders, and thus Canada's economy.






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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: blink]
    #2108653 - 11/15/03 09:29 AM (14 years, 10 days ago)

Its time for somebody to do a Timothy McVeigh on those bastards.


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2108834 - 11/15/03 12:38 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

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Its time for somebody to do a Timothy McVeigh on those bastards




WTF???

If you learned nothing else from 9/11, you should have learned that armed insurrection is NOT beneficial to the libertarian agenda.

(at least not in the situation we're in right now)


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Re: DEA Global Authority [Re: DoctorJ]
    #2108838 - 11/15/03 12:42 PM (14 years, 10 days ago)

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Which country has the US threatened with military action if it won't go along with US drug policy? Specifics, please




sorry, old man, I do enough research papers for school and convincing you of the patently obvious is not worth my time.


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