Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Injection Grain Bag   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   OlympusMyco.com No Unicorns Here—Just Quality Bags That Work

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | Next >
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offlinespacechildo
proletarians rise up
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: taGyo]
    #21073385 - 01/05/15 08:06 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Quote:

taGyo said:
I wouldn't case my first grow, just another vector for mistakes.




coir......rockkkkkks! :rockon:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThoky.ykoht

Registered: 10/08/13
Posts: 399
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21073401 - 01/05/15 08:08 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Quote:

taGyo said:
I've had coir sitting in a bucket for 4 weeks now. Hydrate hte whole thing.

You can use all the coir and verm and all of that together. No matter what your spawn ratio is your C/V will always be the same. You want enough to have 2-1/2 - 3" of sub and then mix your grains and then a very small 1/4" layer to cover any exposed grains and then make suer it's level.



Quote:

wowimflabbergasted said:
Wait a 20qt tub? You want to use 1-2qt spawn.




so could you get away with 3 20qt tubs with 1qt spawn and the basic coir prep in the tek i was shown?

or am i going to need 3 bricks of coir and 3 times the amount of very

Edited by Thoky.ykoht (01/05/15 08:11 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThoky.ykoht

Registered: 10/08/13
Posts: 399
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21073413 - 01/05/15 08:09 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

or would it take longer to colonize with less spawn? or is it the same 10 day wait..

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblewowimflabbergasted
supercalifragilistic
 User Gallery


Registered: 07/16/12
Posts: 18,919
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21073471 - 01/05/15 08:18 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

3 20qt will be good for regular cvg tek.


--------------------
TempMail | TempPMs
My Guide | MJ Grows


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblejboredone
Money-The root of all evil....
 User Gallery


Registered: 01/19/12
Posts: 4,798
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21073492 - 01/05/15 08:24 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

it really depends on how tall your tub is...even though most are about the same....:shrug:


--------------------
Peace Pot Micro-Dot God Loves You High or Not!!!
In order to grow old and wise, you must once have been young and dumb!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThoky.ykoht

Registered: 10/08/13
Posts: 399
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: jboredone]
    #21073659 - 01/05/15 08:46 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Quote:

jboredone said:
it really depends on how tall your tub is...even though most are about the same....:shrug:



tub measurements are 16.7/8"L x 11.1/2"W x 9.1/4"H (20qt tub)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThoky.ykoht

Registered: 10/08/13
Posts: 399
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21073699 - 01/05/15 08:52 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Quote:

wowimflabbergasted said:
3 20qt will be good for regular cvg tek.




so should we use the coir/verm or the coir/verm/gypsum, can the method with the gypsum also be prepared using bucket tek. whats the benefits of using the gypsum?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRoyal Flush
Stranger

Registered: 12/14/14
Posts: 39
Last seen: 9 years, 9 months
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21073720 - 01/05/15 08:56 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

If you have the money I'd suggest just using what you have now in 1 tub. And practice while studying agar/g2g and so on.. Just my 2 cents though take what you will.

It all depends if you have the money for more syringes. PM me and I will provide you a link to a book that is incredibly informative.

Edited by Royal Flush (01/05/15 08:57 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThoky.ykoht

Registered: 10/08/13
Posts: 399
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Royal Flush]
    #21073786 - 01/05/15 09:06 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Quote:

Royal Flush said:
If you have the money I'd suggest just using what you have now in 1 tub. And practice while studying agar/g2g and so on.. Just my 2 cents though take what you will.

It all depends if you have the money for more syringes. PM me and I will provide you a link to a book that is incredibly informative.





I have two more syringes of different species... i just hate waiting for them to colonize after the knock

4 (20qt tubs) a good supply of jars, 4 colonized jars of WBS, some leftover WBS, a SAB, 2 big ass bags of verm, only thing i really need is coir possibly some gypsum and some polyphil. debating on wether or not to get the EZ felt for the new lids for the gtg or to just stick with the tyvek and do a double layer of it as the film.

also got some leftover shotgun tubs from the last couple pf tek grows.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleInocuole
Scalpel of Evil's Bane
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 11/21/11
Posts: 24,867
Loc: ★
Trusted Cultivator
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Royal Flush]
    #21073787 - 01/05/15 09:06 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

If you have enough to make a few mini tubs at once I highly recommend doing that vs putting all your eggs in one basket.

You're GOING to have some degree of failure, but that doesn't mean that it has to completely put you out of the game.

I would have made mini tubs for my first mono grows if I had known how easy it ended up being.  One quart jar per 20 qt tub, fill it up about 2-3 inches with coir/verm, add your grain spawn, and mix.  With 5 jars, you have 5 different chances to get an ounce.  Might need 2 bricks to be able to do them all the same size, but you'll get more that way than you would from making a big tub with 5 jars and letting the dice roll with contams.


--------------------
                            :rainbowdrink: Tea doesn't work?                            AMU  (Q & A)                  Grain prep for Intergalactic Space Oats :pes:     

Coir-ca-cola
Jokes are funny until they're about you

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThoky.ykoht

Registered: 10/08/13
Posts: 399
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Inocuole]
    #21073802 - 01/05/15 09:09 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Quote:

Inocuole said:
If you have enough to make a few mini tubs at once I highly recommend doing that vs putting all your eggs in one basket.

You're GOING to have some degree of failure, but that doesn't mean that it has to completely put you out of the game.

I would have made mini tubs for my first mono grows if I had known how easy it ended up being.  One quart jar per 20 qt tub, fill it up about 2-3 inches with coir/verm, add your grain spawn, and mix.  With 5 jars, you have 5 different chances to get an ounce.  Might need 2 bricks to be able to do them all the same size, but you'll get more that way than you would from making a big tub with 5 jars and letting the dice roll with contams.




how much very would i use among the 4 tubs, is gypsum necessary?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleInocuole
Scalpel of Evil's Bane
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 11/21/11
Posts: 24,867
Loc: ★
Trusted Cultivator
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21073824 - 01/05/15 09:12 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Gypsum is not necessary but if you have it, go ahead and use it.  I don't measure the verm myself, but I'd say I only use about a cup or two of verm in each tub, so about half a quart, around there.


--------------------
                            :rainbowdrink: Tea doesn't work?                            AMU  (Q & A)                  Grain prep for Intergalactic Space Oats :pes:     

Coir-ca-cola
Jokes are funny until they're about you

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThoky.ykoht

Registered: 10/08/13
Posts: 399
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Inocuole]
    #21073843 - 01/05/15 09:15 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

sweet thanks

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRoyal Flush
Stranger

Registered: 12/14/14
Posts: 39
Last seen: 9 years, 9 months
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21074177 - 01/05/15 10:11 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Yea I didn't specify, If you have 4 go ahead and do that. My only point was that, myself personally, would skip the g2g for right now.

If you want to g2g I'd suggest inoculating a couple of jars with one of the other syringes you have (depending on how many jars you have) with g2g it's pretty much 1/10 of a g2g jar to regular grain jar to inoculate.

You seem to have it down pretty good to this point and am sure that whatever route you choose, you will succeed. Good luck :mushroom2:

Edited by Royal Flush (01/05/15 10:13 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThoky.ykoht

Registered: 10/08/13
Posts: 399
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21074227 - 01/05/15 10:16 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

will this stuff work? or is there a suggested coir should be using. says each brick is like 7 liters. or is that too much per tub?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleInocuole
Scalpel of Evil's Bane
 User Gallery

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 11/21/11
Posts: 24,867
Loc: ★
Trusted Cultivator
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21074242 - 01/05/15 10:19 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

That brick will do about 3-4 tubs.  I use those all the time.


--------------------
                            :rainbowdrink: Tea doesn't work?                            AMU  (Q & A)                  Grain prep for Intergalactic Space Oats :pes:     

Coir-ca-cola
Jokes are funny until they're about you

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleThoky.ykoht

Registered: 10/08/13
Posts: 399
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Inocuole]
    #21074278 - 01/05/15 10:25 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

cool, should verm be added when soaking in boiled water in the bucket or wait and mix it in when transferred to the tubs? what amount of water should be used for the whole brick

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinespacechildo
proletarians rise up
Male User Gallery


Registered: 01/24/13
Posts: 19,243
Loc: Babylon
Last seen: 7 years, 4 months
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Thoky.ykoht]
    #21074297 - 01/05/15 10:30 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

follow the tek you linked here earlier! its great for coir verm and gypsum!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineRoyal Flush
Stranger

Registered: 12/14/14
Posts: 39
Last seen: 9 years, 9 months
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: spacechildo]
    #21074356 - 01/05/15 10:39 PM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Strongly recommend this tek.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595


Combined with this (when you have enough spawn or just using the ratios)


http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14722933#14722933

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflinetaGyo
Strainiac/AMU
Male User Gallery


Registered: 10/16/14
Posts: 18,802
Loc: Journal Land Flag
Last seen: 6 years, 3 months
Re: 4 qts WBS 80%/100% colonized, WHAT NEXT?!? [Re: Royal Flush]
    #21075902 - 01/06/15 08:51 AM (10 years, 13 days ago)

Eco-Earth is the recommended brand by Damion (50/50 guy).


--------------------
Gyo's Better Grows
TNF Q&A :rockon:
AMU Q&A

Dominus fortunae meae sum

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | 15 | 16 | 17 | Next >

Shop: Mushroom-Hut Liquid Cultures   Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   North Spore Injection Grain Bag   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   OlympusMyco.com No Unicorns Here—Just Quality Bags That Work


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* 100% colonization? I_Stain_Blue 1,764 17 05/31/03 08:24 PM
by mattch1
* 100% colonization? can you EVER tell? I_Stain_Blue 3,074 8 05/09/03 10:17 AM
by I_Stain_Blue
* 100% colonization, now what? Dorfus 2,738 2 10/26/01 09:46 PM
by Dead Shaman
* Leaving Mycobags in Incubation til 100% Colonization outaker 914 4 11/06/03 09:27 PM
by Rose
* 100% colonized??? Seraph 1,998 2 06/24/02 08:15 AM
by Seraph
* 100% colonized. How long before birthing? thisone 1,868 4 11/25/02 10:56 AM
by dog
* pins and not 100% Colonized yet! *DELETED* JOptionPane 1,606 1 08/24/02 09:29 AM
by mickey_rourke
* Overlay?or 100%colonized Numba9 2,707 7 10/14/01 06:18 PM
by Mr. Pink

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, hamloaf, cronicr, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
14,398 topic views. 27 members, 139 guests and 86 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2025 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.023 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 13 queries.