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Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam
    #21060421 - 01/03/15 11:36 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Although this it not new, I haven't seen this post yet !

http://www.sheffieldtelegraph.co.uk/news/local/brother-of-derbyshire-teen-who-died-after-taking-one-pill-calls-for-changes-in-the-law-1-6978254

he brother of a teenager who died after taking a pill bought online has called for a change in the law to tackle the sale of such drugs.

Aidan Karpenko, 19, lost his life in June after a friend gave him a single Etizolam tablet he had bought on the internet.

Etizolam – which was identified as a so-called ‘legal high’ in 2011 – is used as a medicine in Japan and India to treat anxiety, insomnia and panic attacks. The drug is not licensed as a medicine in the UK – although it is not classed as an illegal substance.

An inquest on Monday heard how Aidan, of Chesterfield Road, Holmewood, took the pill because he was “feeling anxious”.

Aidan’s brother, Calvin, said: “There needs to be accountability under the law for the supply of these substances in order to protect the public and prevent more avoidable deaths.

“The suppliers of these drugs are unqualified and unable to know the medical implications of taking them and your safety is the least of their worries. Just because it is legal, it does not mean it is safe.

“We would seriously appeal to people thinking about using drugs to not do so. As Aidan’s death shows, it can only take one pill.”

Mr Karpenko added: “We are all still reeling from the shock that Aidan has gone.

“Aidan was a loving young man who helped a lot of people during his short lifetime and there are many people who will miss him.”

He also expressed his “deepest gratitude and thanks” to everyone who has offered support during “a terrible period of time for our family”.

A former Chesterfield College student, Aidan was a talented songwriter and guitarist who would often entertain his classmates with his music.

The former bartender at Frankie and Benny’s was pronounced dead at 7.10am on Wednesday, June 25. Post-mortem tests revealed he died of cardiorespiratory depression due to Etizolam toxicity.

Coroner James Newman recorded a verdict of accidental death.

So just how easy is it to buy ‘legal highs’ online? Michael Broomhead investigates...

You only have to type a few key words into Google to realise there are thousands of distributors – many in the UK – selling these dangerous substances.

Within a matter of minutes, I’d ordered ten Etizolam pills for just £4.50.

All I had to do was enter my name, address and bank details, confirm I was over 18 and agree to the terms and conditions.

It was that shockingly simple to buy these hideous drugs, which were delivered to me just two days later.

Etizolam is one of many ‘legal highs’ flooding the drugs market in the UK.

Suppliers, who get round the law by selling the substances as incense, salts or plant food, say they’re doing nothing wrong.

Latest figures show 68 people died after taking ‘legal highs’ in 2012 and many people in Derbyshire – including Chesterfield MP Toby Perkins and our police – are doing all they can to raise awareness about the dangers and fight for a change in the law.

It may be some time before legislation changes – but it’s hoped that by highlighting the dangers of ‘legal highs’, other lives will be saved.





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How is this even possible? :smirk:


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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: GoddessOfLove]
    #21060623 - 01/03/15 12:13 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

That's crazy. I really wonder what happened.


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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: searching]
    #21060668 - 01/03/15 12:22 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

More informations here :

http://www.derbyshiretimes.co.uk/news/grassroots/one-pill-can-kill-warning-after-death-of-popular-chesterfield-teen-1-6973111

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A talented young musician died after taking one pill ordered online to cure his anxiety, an inquest heard.

Aidan Karpenko, 19, of Chesterfield Road, Holmewood, was found dead hours after childhood friend Jamie Stone gave him a single Etizolam pill he had bought on the internet.

Etizolam is used as a medicine in Japan and India to treat anxiety, insomnia and panic attacks. The drug is not licensed as a medicine in the UK – although it is not classed as an illegal substance.

A support group this week sounded an alert about buying unlicensed and unregulated drugs online.

Aidan’s brother, Calvin, said: “We would seriously appeal to people thinking about using drugs to not do so. As Aidan’s death shows, it can only take one pill.”

Family described Aidan as a “lovely” young man during Monday’s inquest at Chesterfield coroners’ court.

Mr Stone told the court how Aidan visited his house in Malson Way, Newbold, at about 5pm on Tuesday, June 24 and asked for an Etizolam pill because he was “feeling anxious”.

The pair spent the night drinking, playing computer games and watching films before Aidan went to sleep on Mr Stone’s settee at about 2am.

Mr Stone, who was accompanied in court by a social worker, broke down in tears as he told of the moment he found his friend of 12 years dead.

“I woke up at 7am and I knew something was wrong,” he said. “Aidan was really pale and he’d thrown up.

“I rang for an ambulance and after that I don’t remember anything.

“Aidan was like a kid brother to me.”

Aidan, who worked as a bartender at Frankie and Benny’s in Chesterfield, was pronounced dead at 7.10am on Wednesday, June 25. Post-mortem tests revealed he died of cardiorespiratory depression due to Etizolam toxicity.

Mr Stone said he had been taking Etizolam for up to three years to help him sleep.

The small, blue tablet which killed Aidan – who did not have a history of drug abuse – was one of 100 Mr Stone had recently ordered from an online distributor in the UK.

Mr Stone was unable to categorically state the name of the online distributor and the court heard a police investigation had failed to find out where the drugs came from.

Coroner James Newman, who agreed to write a prevention of future deaths report in a bid to avert more fatalities in similar circumstances, said: “I’m concerned there’s an unlicensed, unregulated drug being manufactured and supplied in the UK.”

There were heated scenes in the courtroom as Aidan’s family accused Mr Stone of not knowing what the drug he gave to Aidan contained. Mr Stone insisted he had done his research.

Aidan’s biological mother, Louise Tasker-Lynch, paid tribute to the former Chesterfield College student, a talented songwriter and guitarist who would often entertain his classmates with his music.

She said: “He was a very loving young man.

“He always put everyone else first – if he could help in any way, he would.”

His foster mother, Louise Lowe, added: “Aidan had a real zest for life and is sadly missed.

“He was so bright, loving and talented.

“I loved him unconditionally.”

Mr Newman recorded a verdict of accidental death.

After the inquest, a spokesman for Chesterfield-based drugs support group Spoda said: “Substances bought from the internet are not regulated or licensed – people don’t know what they are taking.

“There is now a range of drugs on the market called new psychoactive substances – these come in a variety of different forms and the use of Etizolam is one area where the number of fatalities is increasing.

“All drugs carry risks and people never know how they will react to them. People are playing with their lives and sadly it’s the families who suffer the awful, devastating loss as a consequence of such deaths.”

For advice and support, call Spoda on 0845 600 3320 or visit www.doyouknowwhatsinit.org.uk




Do you think he died because of the "drinking" event? Wonders what they drink tho..


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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: GoddessOfLove] * 1
    #21060741 - 01/03/15 12:33 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Seems like he died because he mixed 2 cns depresents. Some people can do it 1000 times and be fine and some people will mix them once and die. It could have been Xanax or oxy that he took instead of Etiz  and he still would have died

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: canabis]
    #21060744 - 01/03/15 12:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

We don't know if the article mentions Alcohol drinking or soft drinking :shrug:


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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: GoddessOfLove]
    #21060770 - 01/03/15 12:39 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

It said "spent the night drinking"anyone know if any other deaths from Etiz?

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: canabis] * 1
    #21060903 - 01/03/15 01:10 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

My dad was killed by a drunk driver.this kid was a bartender...
A person who sells a deadly drug dies from a drug.
But the non liquid drug means the law needs to change?
The kids brother is a moron.

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: wandervogel] * 1
    #21061344 - 01/03/15 02:25 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Kid died from alcohol poisoning like millions of others. This one perhaps had the thresh hold lowered slightly by an Etizolam. If it wasn't a tiz, it would've been another benzo.

Coroners are often full of shit. Guy died with a bit of kratom and Nine pharmaceutical drugs in his system = Coroner ruled Kratom toxicity.

Kid spends all night drinking, drug well known to kill millions from respiratory depression and has 1mg Etizolam in his system = Coroner rules Etizolam toxicity.

They lie just as much as the media does.

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: XTCentral]
    #21061737 - 01/03/15 03:44 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

If one Tiz takes you out it was probably just your time to go.  It's like drinking a couple cups of coffee and having a heart attack.  I'm sure it happens but anybody that dies that way was destined to go the first time somebody jumped up and yelled "Boooo!".


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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: canabis]
    #21061955 - 01/03/15 04:15 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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canabis said:
It said "spent the night drinking"anyone know if any other deaths from Etiz?




No, i have heard of many deaths by alcohol though.


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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: GoddessOfLove]
    #21062530 - 01/03/15 05:42 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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HofmannBlotter said:
We don't know if the article mentions Alcohol drinking or soft drinking :shrug:



I am 100% sure they meant alcohol, its a uk article, drinking soft drinks never even entered my mind, "drinking" is drinking alcohol, being pissed is being drunk.

Similar happened in Ireland leading to the ban on mushrooms, a guy who was drinking also took a half dose of a small container of fresh commercial shrooms and commited suicide. Even though alcohol is involved in the vast majority of suicides in Ireland this was totally ignored and the shrooms were blamed and banned pretty much overnight when the guys mother complained to the minister of health. I expect any mother requesting alcohol to be banned after their son had it in their system at the time of suicide would be considered an idiot.

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: blackout]
    #21063393 - 01/03/15 08:31 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Definitely the mix as so many people use etiz.... Media fear mongering as usual.

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: tacodude]
    #21065298 - 01/04/15 11:09 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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tacodude said:
Definitely the mix as so many people use etiz.... Media fear mongering as usual.




Doubtful even the mix. Etiz isn't a very potent CNS depressant, you can take huge doses and black out for days without going coma. People die this way after drinking too much all the time, this guy just happened to have one etiz in place of one of the drinks.

Media does this all the time. Guy died with Kratom (shown to be effectively non-toxic) and NINE potentially lethal pharmaceutical drugs in his system? Coroner rules Kratom toxicity and Media runs with it.

Kid dies with one Etizolam (relatively non-toxic compared to alcohol, otherwise very similar) and loads of proven to be potentially lethal alcohol in his system? Coroner rules Etizolam toxicity, media runs with it.

Unfortunately though, people are just stupid and will believe this shit. They did it with Cannabis too.

YOUNG MAN DIES AFTER SMOKING CANNABIS CIGARETTE!

A man purchased one cannabis cigarette, often referred to by addicts as a 'Joint' because he believed it may help him with his depression. After being discharged from the hospital for a near-fatal heart attack, the man took his usual dose of medication (Adderall), went for a drink with friends and came back and slit his wrists.

The man was found dead later and after an investigation, the coroner found markedly high levels of THC in the man's blood, ruling cannabis toxicity.

Stay away from this dangerous drug!!


Or, like they're doing even now with cannabis and driving. Studies have found that cannabis does NOT make you more likely to crash? Doesn't matter, some people who crash happened to have smoked weed and people are too stupid to be able to tell what actually constitutes a causal correlation.

Sadly, people will probably always be stupid and believe whatever they're told.

"Did not have a history of drug abuse"

Riiiight, because I forgot how alcohol isn't a drug even though it works the exact same way as Etizolam, it's just more toxic to the heart and liver.

Edited by XTCentral (01/04/15 11:25 AM)

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: XTCentral]
    #21065796 - 01/04/15 12:59 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

They mentioned he took it feeling anxious, but the description of his night sounds like a regular night. I'm assuming they regularly get drunk if not hammered during these sessions. Add one etiz... Or even 250 mcg clonazepam and it should not be surprising that they stopped breathing, maybe didn't get turned on their side when vomiting leading to suffocation, and even more possibilities. The pill played a huge roll, but it's the lack of understanding that this easy to obtain pill is a serious pharmaceutical compound that one should weigh risks and benighted before using.

This is one of this really unfortunate situations as it's not a potentially useful, but seriously risky compound like the nbome series being sold as a relatively physically safe tryptamine withsome quite unique activity leading to overdoses and misrepresented experiences.

It's not just that etiz is dangerous especially in the way you mention once it is abused. It's just this article portrays it as "Even one pill can kill you!" warning. Obviously when one buys generics that might not even have what's expected or properly dosed. It's just like warning people a dose of acid our ecstasy can kill misrepresenting what is commonly portrayed as LSD plus MDMA. It's not drugs that kill, but a lack of ease of access not only to medications. It's also a lack of access to reliable information with ease.

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: tacodude]
    #21065836 - 01/04/15 01:08 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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tacodude said: maybe didn't get turned on their side when vomiting leading to suffocation, and even more possibilities.




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he died of cardiorespiratory depression


Not asphyxiation

I still don't buy it. People die of alcohol poisoning every day, and Etizolam is responsible for zero? Or close to zero deaths as a result of respiratory depression. Statistically and mathematically, the pill did not play a part.

It's possible that it did, but it's also not unlikely that out of all the people who OD on alcohol that some of them would have a low dose of another RC in their system as matter of coincidence.


I actually think that Etizolam is one of the most dangerous RCs in the market right now. The blackouts can cause you to die in any number of ways, forget how much you're taking, drink while on it and even if you survive the acute effects, you can die from the withdrawals or commit suicide after they de-rail your life.

Still, this article sounds like a load of bullshit. Why not just talk about the real risks of Etizolam and other GABA drugs and educate people?

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: XTCentral]
    #21066393 - 01/04/15 03:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I blacked out on etizolam and drank like 1/6 a bottle of everclear. I see things like this and it makes me think, is it really that easy? I'd love to see a toxicology report because I have been on 10mg+ and have been blacked out drunk only to wake up with nothing wrong.

It's very likely he choked on his throw up while sleeping. I'm guessing someone with absolutely no tolerance could have this happen if they were blacked out drunk..

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: Gorlax]
    #21068108 - 01/04/15 08:30 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Etizolam is not the only rc benzo/thieno drug on the market and not the most dangerous. I'll remind you of phenanzepam.... I knew someone who had to wrestle a gun out of his friends dad's hand who walked into the room with a cig he stated would be his final smoke before shooting himself. This person was on a binge after stealing the phenazepam from the person I knew.

Yes etizolam played a huge role, but not it's use although it's misuse led to the affect. Used properly it can be useful, which is why it's prescribed in certain areas of the world.

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: tacodude] * 1
    #21069858 - 01/05/15 06:41 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

It's overblown, sensationalist stories like this that cause tragic deaths like this young man's. Kids just don't know what to believe when such obvious bullshit is in the media, they start to think all drugs are totally safe.

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: XTCentral] * 1
    #21071055 - 01/05/15 12:17 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

This literally doesn't even make sense? I can't see how 1mg.. which those blue pills are could kill someone. I think it might even just be natural death..

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Re: Man died after taking one pill of Etizolam [Re: XTCentral]
    #21089859 - 01/08/15 09:08 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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XTCentral said:
It's overblown, sensationalist stories like this that cause tragic deaths like this young man's. Kids just don't know what to believe when such obvious bullshit is in the media, they start to think all drugs are totally safe.



Sad, since etiz appears safer than the scripts


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