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Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me...
    #21053538 - 01/01/15 06:38 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Hi everyone,
I just tried my 2nd shroom experience last night and I'm not having any significant mental effects.  I searched through the forums and found another user from 4 years ago with similar experience, but no answers came from the post.
So here is the info.  Sorry I don't know the species of mushroom, but they were flat (not bullet) dried and supplied by a trusted source.  Although I did these as solo experiences, my supplier has had great personal experiences with these in the past.  I prepared them in a lemon tek solution by grinding (Vitamix) 7g of dried mushrooms with lemon juice and then soaking for 20min with occasionally shakes to the jar.  The first dosage I started with 1g (recommended by supplier) I waited for an hour.. I just noticed dilation of my eyes and a rise in my body temp.. i then increased to a total of 2g waited another 30min.. no significant change.. and went up to a total of 3.2g and held there for the night.  No significant effects.
Last night I went for the remaining 3.8g (frozen tek in the form of ice cubes for storage).  Same thing.  I do notice physical effects.. dilation, feeling "unusual chemicals" in my body (slight nausea and tingling in limbs).
The setting for both of these experiences:  I have a large meditation room with shag carpet to lie on, lots of cushions, soft colored lighting and star field pattern lights, arrays of candles, listening to mushroom radio pandora channel that someone from this site published (with earbuds to maximize effect).  I spent time with a mixture of meditation, lying down and relaxing, going for a walk outside, and for the first dosage towards the end finally adding some pot to the mix and inviting a woman over for some play.  So I tried various stimulus to see if that would kick start any effects.
With the effects I did feel with mushrooms, it was very easy to "walk out of".  Meaning, at anytime I could stop and get up and do my taxes for instance.. if I wanted.  I never felt out of control in anyway... even when I tried to surrender in various ways (relax, meditate, listen to music, close eyes, rest, walk, etc..)
LSD:  As further backstory, a few years ago I tried a drop of liquid LSD and the same thing.  This was in a group camping situation, where several others participated with others showing more significant effects.  The most I got was an occasional "rippling" effect of the mountain scenery.
Salvia:  My first experience outside of pot was with Salvia.  This actually DID give me a short hallucinogenic experience.  Very short and I haven't really used it since.
MDMA:  A few experiences here, slightly different category.. but listing it in case it helps pinpoint what is going on.  Again this causes dilation but also an increased heart rate.  Has very similar effect on me as pot, so doesn't seem worth the risk.
Meditation:  I have had very big and long "hallucinogenic" experiences here.  Is it possible that this has conditioned my mind/chemical balance somehow?

It would be incorrect to say there were no effects, just not anything that I wouldn't get from pot or from meditation alone.  Music, clarity of thought, being in touch with my emotions.. I believe the mushrooms (and other substances) give a boost to those experiences, but not anything that couldn't be achieved with meditation and/or pot.

So is this normal for a first time user?  Even pot took me several times before my first "high".  Is there specific brain chemistry activity I should investigate for myself?  Anything I'm missing here?

I'm out of mushrooms now, I will wait a month or so and give LSD another try to see what happens.  Suggestions are welcome as I prefer not to "waste" the experience.  But at this point, it's looking like occasional pot and/or meditation may be the only fit for me.

Thanks for the help!

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Re: Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me... [Re: aguyinca]
    #21053553 - 01/01/15 06:43 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

How sure are you that you got real mushrooms and acid

2. Do you take S S R I anti depressants or benzos?


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Re: Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me... [Re: mushpunx]
    #21053827 - 01/01/15 07:35 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

It sounds like you took them wrong. Whem you do a lemon tek, the psilo converts from psilocin to psilocybin via the acid in the lemon. You took the first one correct, heres where im not 100%, i believe leaving it in acidic juice will start breaking down the good stuff, someone correct me if that statement is wrong. tolerance will kick in after a little over an hour, so your second dose didnt come across as another g, it came across as 0.5g. Then your dose the next day didnt work as well becaude you had tolerance still build up.

Here is my suggestion, for your first couple of times, fuck the lemon tek (I am a believer that lemon tekking works too), add nothing to the first come of times you trip, grind up, throw in some OJ or something and down it. Also I would go for a 3g starting point. I started with 2g trip, eventually I found my sweet spot to be 10-13g but I have a naturally higher tolerance


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Re: Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me... [Re: mushpunx]
    #21053939 - 01/01/15 07:57 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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mushpunx said:
How sure are you that you got real mushrooms and acid

2. Do you take S S R I anti depressants or benzos?




No I'm not on any medications.  The LSD I'm sure of because others were on the same experience with me.  For the mushrooms I trust the source, but was solo so I can't verify with someone else.  I did notice some blueing after I grinded the mushrooms though.

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Re: Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me... [Re: baldwintpenguin]
    #21053968 - 01/01/15 08:02 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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It sounds like you took them wrong. Whem you do a lemon tek, the psilo converts from psilocin to psilocybin via the acid in the lemon. You took the first one correct, heres where im not 100%, i believe leaving it in acidic juice will start breaking down the good stuff, someone correct me if that statement is wrong. tolerance will kick in after a little over an hour, so your second dose didnt come across as another g, it came across as 0.5g. Then your dose the next day didnt work as well becaude you had tolerance still build up.

Here is my suggestion, for your first couple of times, fuck the lemon tek (I am a believer that lemon tekking works too), add nothing to the first come of times you trip, grind up, throw in some OJ or something and down it. Also I would go for a 3g starting point. I started with 2g trip, eventually I found my sweet spot to be 10-13g but I have a naturally higher tolerance




So you can't add to a dose once you start?  Also to clarify the second dose wasn't the next day, it was a week later.  I should have made that clear ...I realize two weeks is the recommendation.. but it was a holiday thing :smile:

I'll see how the LSD effects me in a month or so, and perhaps I'll try another batch of mushrooms later in the year.. depending on how that goes.  10-13g seems like a large amount, from what I read so far.  Are you talking dried or fresh?  When you started with 2g, what effects did you experience, given your high tolerance?

Thanks for the input!

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Re: Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me... [Re: aguyinca] * 1
    #21054130 - 01/01/15 08:37 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

13 grams is a HUGE dose. 5 grams is a big dose.
Some people have a very strange natural tolerance and need excessive amounts.

Its not a dick sizing thing, its just the way it is. If you can trip balls from a gram then eat a gram haha

2 grams is the usual dose


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Re: Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me... [Re: baldwintpenguin]
    #21054446 - 01/01/15 09:32 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

baldwintpenguin said:
It sounds like you took them wrong. Whem you do a lemon tek, the psilo converts from psilocin to psilocybin via the acid in the lemon. You took the first one correct, heres where im not 100%, i believe leaving it in acidic juice will start breaking down the good stuff, someone correct me if that statement is wrong. tolerance will kick in after a little over an hour, so your second dose didnt come across as another g, it came across as 0.5g. Then your dose the next day didnt work as well becaude you had tolerance still build up.

Here is my suggestion, for your first couple of times, fuck the lemon tek (I am a believer that lemon tekking works too), add nothing to the first come of times you trip, grind up, throw in some OJ or something and down it. Also I would go for a 3g starting point. I started with 2g trip, eventually I found my sweet spot to be 10-13g but I have a naturally higher tolerance




I believe it's actually psilocybin that dephosphorates into psilocin. I'm sure that's what you meant to say though :biggrin:

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Re: Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me... [Re: mushpunx]
    #21055917 - 01/02/15 09:54 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

mushpunx said:
13 grams is a HUGE dose. 5 grams is a big dose.
Some people have a very strange natural tolerance and need excessive amounts.

Its not a dick sizing thing, its just the way it is. If you can trip balls from a gram then eat a gram haha

2 grams is the usual dose




Yeah I get it.. I'm just wondering how people get to the point they realize they need that much.  I mean do you feel something with say 2g.. or do you eventually hit a threshold and know, yep that's it? or more a gradual effect (which seems to be the case from the Level1-4 descriptions)  I say this because I don't want to keep trying a large dose, then finally it kicks in but it's way too much by then.  Are there cases where it simply is never enough?

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Re: Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me... [Re: aguyinca]
    #21056536 - 01/02/15 12:25 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Smart to worry about that haha

I would sugguest trying a different batch from someone else. After all you've only taken them twice.

Ive had mushrooms that were legit but weak, 2 grams would have been useless.

So try growing them yourself (go over to mush cult we will help you) or buying from a new source and start with two grams. You might be surprised!


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Re: Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me... [Re: mushpunx] * 1
    #21056761 - 01/02/15 01:46 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

You can definitely dose again after you come up, but it needs to be within the first hour or so of the original dose, then you have to start doubling to get the same effect. Most people, myself included, would recommend taking the entire dose up front vs trying to add to it little by little throughout the trip.
A week is plenty of time inbetween trips to reset physical tolerance, people vary the largest with mental resets and timelines. Yes 10-13g is considered an epic dose for most people. The stuff  I consume is plenty strong, my roommate can take 3g, and I have to take 7-8 for a similar level trip. I've taken over 20g to see how far the rabbit hole goes and honestly it was so mentally exhausting I'll probably never do it again.

I read and did tons of research before attempting shrooms at all, I knew what every level of trip felt like to most people. At 2g things became wavy, music was great, and I felt warm/fuzzy. I built up mostly out of curiousity. It took 2 years of tripping to experience Ego Death for me

Yes thanks DMTelligent, that is what I meant :smile:


It is not common but I'm sure it's possible to a reaction to any amount. Make sure you don't fight them. My 3rd trip may have been the most "fun trip" I ever had. I spent the next 5 trips trying to replicate it through amounts Irish taken, wanting it, etc......won't happen every trip is different, up your dose and go with the flow, increase 1g or so per trip


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Re: Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me... [Re: aguyinca]
    #21411887 - 03/15/15 03:20 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

the first 3 times i took mush their were no effects and i had no herb/pot. the 1st time i took mush while blazing the mush faded me and has ever since. their are alot of garbage e pills going around these days. on rare occasion i find amazing acid but these days 99xs out of 100 its watered down garbage as well. stick with the mush and herb, be patient and stay at or under 4 grams because when it finally does hit you it will be hard.  also i remember reading phikal or thikal by R.I.P. Alex Shuglin and with Phenethylamines like MDMA you have 90 min. from when you take the first dose to redose or take more, after that redosing wont have any effect, i`m not sure Tryptamines or psilo. is the same but i suspect it is. be patient and good luck mang!!


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Re: Help: Mushrooms and LSD seem to have little to no mental effect on me... [Re: bboyphrog1]
    #21411931 - 03/15/15 03:31 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

You defintely get an effect from redoseing MDMA it's just not the flood of seritonin you got the first time


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