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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: PatrickKn]
#21054625 - 01/01/15 10:22 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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PatrickKn said: People's sense of the word 'ego' is used incorrectly in a lot of conversation when it comes to psychedelics. People think of it in terms of ones obsession with self, and when they hear that psychedelics produce ego death, they believe it promotes positive long term changes in psyche when it comes to getting rid of people's 'messiah' complexes and sense of selflessness. What they aren't really getting is that ego death in a old sense of the word certainly happens on psychedelics even though it doesn't happen in the context described in the previous sentence.
If you take 10 or more grams of shrooms (dried) you'll certainly have trouble knowing who "You" are, or where you came from. Take a few hits of salvia, you certainly wouldn't have any sense of the difference between you and your immediate surroundings. Ego (I) gets destroyed in a lot of contexts from these experiences, certainly. Yes, temporarily (not long term), but I feel like the big misconstruction comes from use of the word ego in modern speech to refer to people with vain attitudes and such, rather than the more philosophy/freudian definitions that apply the word to the sense of I you get when referring to yourself dichotomically opposed to everything else, or the sense of cultural programming you're exposed to (super-ego).
The continued popularity of Freud is a testament to how thin the veneer is that the dominator culture places over pure evil. The word ego was used in same sense as in the phrase "ego death" as well as in the sense of egotism long before he came to associate psychology with the absolutely horrifying ideas that he represented.
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: Alyssa] 1
#21054638 - 01/01/15 10:26 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ideas such as... ?
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: Alyssa]
#21054647 - 01/01/15 10:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Alyssa said: The continued popularity of Freud is a testament to how thin the veneer is that the dominator culture places over pure evil. The word ego was used in same sense as in the phrase "ego death" as well as in the sense of egotism long before he came to associate psychology with the absolutely horrifying ideas that he represented.
Again, this is a perfect example of where people don't get it. I don't care what people's ideas about Freud are, it has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. I'm commenting on the way he used the word 'ego', in the sense of it meaning 'I' or the 'Person that is Me' as separated from everything else. My only point is that, when under the influence of psychedelics, in this sense, "I" and "Me" can be temporarily repressed for certain, there are many times where I've tripped and had no idea what my name even was, nor who my parents were or how I got in the room I was in.
The reason people misconstrue it to be a long term psyche change that makes people less vain or less full on their self worth, is because of a semantic misunderstanding of the word 'ego' when used in 'ego death'.
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: PatrickKn]
#21054660 - 01/01/15 10:33 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dr00gz maek yuo moar smert!
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21054693 - 01/01/15 10:46 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pris needs to post more often.
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: Srirachi]
#21054714 - 01/01/15 10:55 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Pris is a decent poster. So is Sheekle, though I see why people might disagree strongly. Star Trek is sometimes slightly more interesting than star wars but both are mediocre.
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: psi]
#21054719 - 01/01/15 10:57 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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psi said: Ideas such as... ?
"The elimination of clitoral sexuality is a necessary precondition for the development of femininity." Used as a primary authority for FGM in Western cultures.
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: Alyssa]
#21054735 - 01/01/15 11:01 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Drugs don't teach you anything besides delusional thoughts
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: theRAPeutic] 1
#21054745 - 01/01/15 11:03 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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theRAPeutic said: Drugs don't teach you anything besides delusional thoughts
Shamans are full of shit.
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Edited by Bitter Cactus (01/01/15 11:06 PM)
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: theRAPeutic] 2
#21054759 - 01/01/15 11:06 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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 This thread sux becauz black people can't swiim
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: drege]
#21055535 - 01/02/15 07:39 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psychedelics are useless drugs.
Discuss
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: Patlal]
#21055542 - 01/02/15 07:45 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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All recreational drugs are useless. Recreation is useless. Fun is stupid.
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: Bitter Cactus] 1
#21055608 - 01/02/15 08:19 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Hollywood is mostly shit and the high majority of the movies that come out are worthless pieces of excrement.
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: Bitter Cactus]
#21055780 - 01/02/15 09:11 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Psychedelics are for faggots, abortion should be illegal and Jim Morrison was nothing but a malnourished little gay boy.
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BreathlessVision said: Hollywood is mostly shit and the high majority of the movies that come out are worthless pieces of excrement.
Really going out on a limb there, eh?
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: SoupSandwich] 1
#21055895 - 01/02/15 09:47 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your favorite actors an actresses have victimized and been a victim of various fetishes, orgies, etc themed parties for fellow rich and privileged citizens.
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: InfiniteToker]
#21055911 - 01/02/15 09:52 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sounds good to me.
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: drege]
#21055944 - 01/02/15 10:00 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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it would be if you actually wanted it, but not if being forced to or forcing others to engage by blackmail, threats,etc....
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: Patlal]
#21056416 - 01/02/15 11:51 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Psychedelics are useless drugs.
Discuss
Agreed. They are fun to obsess over when you are like 15 and after that they are sort of lame and other drugs are more pleasurable.
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Re: Post an unpopular/ controversial opinion [Re: SoupSandwich]
#21056510 - 01/02/15 12:17 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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SoupSandwich said:
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BreathlessVision said: Hollywood is mostly shit and the high majority of the movies that come out are worthless pieces of excrement.
Really going out on a limb there, eh?
Yep
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