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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: underfliptown]
#21044237 - 12/30/14 02:13 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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underfliptown said: Then you'd be right in there with a bunch of points, eh akira? lolol.
i like discussing THINGS. not this drivel.
food! drugs! news! same old shit different day. what kinda instrument do you like!? *instead of providing any examples: too lazy to; i'm just gonna say violin and call it a day*
oh well, what can one expect from a forum that can be about anything at all under the sun, but though, is filled with drug heads. silly though. there is so much to talk about, and yet so little.
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peace of mind 1 said: Yet when someone responds with "drugs don't teach you shit" people flip out. Drugs DON'T teach us anything, it's a fact, not even an opinion. They're DRUGS. If you wanna say what life experience you've gained in BEING A DRUG USER, you'd have more of an argument. Drug users, mostly hard drug users have learned a bunch of shit being on the street and picking up drugs and dealing with different people. Such as who to trust and who not to trust, you can learn how to read through people's bullshit and other things like that, I know I have. However, the drugs didn't teach me that, that was just LIFE EXPERIENCE in being a drug USER. Otherwise, drugs are not capable of "teaching" us anything.
You're doing them wrong then. I'm not saying they for sure do, but to subscribe to one position on this is a sign of ignorance.
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peace of mind 1 said: Yet when someone responds with "drugs don't teach you shit" people flip out. Drugs DON'T teach us anything, it's a fact, not even an opinion. They're DRUGS. If you wanna say what life experience you've gained in BEING A DRUG USER, you'd have more of an argument. Drug users, mostly hard drug users have learned a bunch of shit being on the street and picking up drugs and dealing with different people. Such as who to trust and who not to trust, you can learn how to read through people's bullshit and other things like that, I know I have. However, the drugs didn't teach me that, that was just LIFE EXPERIENCE in being a drug USER. Otherwise, drugs are not capable of "teaching" us anything.
you gotta admit though, you're coming off as so adamant about your hatred right now, that, it's clear something is kicking around up there in your head. you hate what drug heads do? LOL, me too! still do drugs though! i wonder, does it even matter? i don't let drugs be the lynchpin in my life, that makes everything come apart without it... but also when i do drugs i temporarily burrow into a hole, because i actually hate the lifestyle... shitty eh?
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: underfliptown]
#21044247 - 12/30/14 02:16 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're doing them wrong then. I'm not saying they for sure do, but to subscribe to one position on this is a sign of ignorance.
what have you learned from drugs?
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21044248 - 12/30/14 02:16 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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underfliptown said: Then you'd be right in there with a bunch of points, eh akira? lolol.
i like discussing THINGS. not this drivel.
food! drugs! news! same old shit different day. what kinda instrument do you like!? *instead of providing any examples: too lazy to; i'm just gonna say violin and call it a day*
oh well, what can one expect from a forum that can be about anything at all under the sun, but though, is filled with drug heads. silly though. there is so much to talk about, and yet so little.
All I really want to talk about is ancient aliens
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21044249 - 12/30/14 02:16 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Negativity is negativity is negativity
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underfliptown
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21044254 - 12/30/14 02:18 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're doing them wrong then. I'm not saying they for sure do, but to subscribe to one position on this is a sign of ignorance.
what have you learned from drugs?
I already talked about this. I have learned how to be a better and worse person though lol.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21044256 - 12/30/14 02:18 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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peace of mind 1 said: Yet when someone responds with "drugs don't teach you shit" people flip out. Drugs DON'T teach us anything, it's a fact, not even an opinion. They're DRUGS. If you wanna say what life experience you've gained in BEING A DRUG USER, you'd have more of an argument. Drug users, mostly hard drug users have learned a bunch of shit being on the street and picking up drugs and dealing with different people. Such as who to trust and who not to trust, you can learn how to read through people's bullshit and other things like that, I know I have. However, the drugs didn't teach me that, that was just LIFE EXPERIENCE in being a drug USER. Otherwise, drugs are not capable of "teaching" us anything.
You're doing them wrong then. I'm not saying they for sure do, but to subscribe to one position on this is a sign of ignorance.
I'm "doing drugs wrong"? 
I'm getting high, I think I'm doing it right.
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peace of mind 1 said: Yet when someone responds with "drugs don't teach you shit" people flip out. Drugs DON'T teach us anything, it's a fact, not even an opinion. They're DRUGS. If you wanna say what life experience you've gained in BEING A DRUG USER, you'd have more of an argument. Drug users, mostly hard drug users have learned a bunch of shit being on the street and picking up drugs and dealing with different people. Such as who to trust and who not to trust, you can learn how to read through people's bullshit and other things like that, I know I have. However, the drugs didn't teach me that, that was just LIFE EXPERIENCE in being a drug USER. Otherwise, drugs are not capable of "teaching" us anything.
you gotta admit though, you're coming off as so adamant about your hatred right now, that, it's clear something is kicking around up there in your head. you hate what drug heads do? LOL, me too! still do drugs though! i wonder, does it even matter? i don't let drugs be the lynchpin in my life, that makes everything come apart without it... but also when i do drugs i temporarily burrow into a hole, because i actually hate the lifestyle... shitty eh?
Nah I don't hate what drug heads do at all, I LOVE drugs, I just don't think they whisper life lessons in my ear, that's all.
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Nah bro, you're definitely doing them wrong.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: zZZz]
#21044271 - 12/30/14 02:22 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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All I really want to talk about is ancient aliens 
well, that's boring.
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zZZz said: Negativity is negativity is negativity
positivity, is positivity, is positivity. can you imagine if nobody ever had any problems? we'd all be hugging eachother fasted emaciated bodies and wouldn't be able to have any good amount of protein for people in the world, just vegetable, which most people wouldn't be able to afford, so hippies would be starving entire countries... and it's not like they're not trying, but they can only do so much before people die. so then drugs are consumed, lets not even consider that people are dying. cause negatives braw.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: underfliptown]
#21044272 - 12/30/14 02:23 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah bro, you're definitely doing them wrong.
yet you can't explain or clarify how.
i don't believe you. maybe you're doing them wrong? you think they're teaching you things, but yet they aren't, and you're just making up rationalizations to justify your drug use, when really it's making you worse off, because you think that you're learning when really you're just wasting time.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21044274 - 12/30/14 02:24 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah bro, you're definitely doing them wrong.
yet you can't explain or clarify how.
i don't believe you. maybe you're doing them wrong? you think they're teaching you things, but yet they aren't, and you're just making up rationalizations to justify your drug use, when really it's making you worse off, because you think that you're learning when really you're just wasting time.
I've learned pretty much everything there is to learn from drugs. I've seen the beyond. That's all I ever wanted. Now I just do them for fun, and because they can make me nicer sometimes.
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Nah I don't hate what drug heads do at all, I LOVE drugs, I just don't think they whisper life lessons in my ear, that's all.
i guess i gotta a love-hate relationship. fun is fun, too much fun without having to do anything FOR it... is redundant, to me.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: underfliptown]
#21044277 - 12/30/14 02:25 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've learned pretty much everything there is to learn from drugs. I've seen the beyond. That's all I ever wanted. Now I just do them for fun, and because they can make me nicer sometimes.
you've died before? or what? you've seen the beyond? i kinda doubt that. what is the beyond exactly?
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peace of mind 1 said: So you needed psychedelics to teach you things that anyone should already know? They "told" you to stop bitching, get a job and to be careful with alcohol and weed? Wow, that is some heavy stuff.
I don't understand why a person needs psychedelic drugs to figure these things out, but okay.
The most important things you already know but forgot in your wrong ways of life.
Like being too judgemental, To avoid arguments, To stop working at your job because you're going no where, To give up a dream because you're wasting your life, To leave "friends" that have kept you down, To leave family members, To be more positive, To be more active, To see that you're the problem with a relationship, To stop putting on a front to impress others, To stop joining causes because you're wanting to fit in To admit that you're wrong. To apologize. Etc.
Everyone lies to themselves to avoid the ugly truth. Psychedelics can make you examine parts of your life like you haven't before. Taking a different approach to look at the same problem is very helpful sometimes.
Are you a perfect person? Have you looked back in the past and wondered why you acted a certain way?
I believe psychedelics can help you learn a lot, or rather to see truth. They can also help you learn lies.
Since they are helpful tools to reach into your mind, the delusions can also become exaggerated. It depends if you want to appreciate truth or to create bigger lies to make a nest out of.
People that say there is nothing to be learned from psychedelics are lying to themselves. Another lie to break later doesn't help anyone. I'm not saying I'm perfect. I have many lies that I have ingrained into my mind. I am trying to learn why I made each individual lie come to existence. They made me comfortable. The reason behind each lie is just as important as getting rid of the lies themselves.
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"Yo yo just here to spread my clit and show ya'll what a wonderful and free being we are all inside lets take the acid and turn inside into the outside come on over baby lets smell the roses ohh ohh come on we're about to get lit show my undies to your baby I'll hug it down three times go around frown come on we aint a nice clown kiss me upside down down down come on sorry if you cant handle my wokeness come on lets take her panties off write shroomery on my asshole and taste it lick it make if feel like we was 1978 come on baby lets do the locamotion"-Twig dude
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21044282 - 12/30/14 02:27 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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The beyond is the cosmic ocean. All I can do is put it into metaphors. It's literally indescribable. If you've been there you know what I mean. Not many people have been there though. It takes a lot of dmt. A LOT of dmt.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21044286 - 12/30/14 02:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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All I really want to talk about is ancient aliens 
well, that's boring.
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zZZz said: Negativity is negativity is negativity
positivity, is positivity, is positivity. can you imagine if nobody ever had any problems? we'd all be hugging eachother fasted emaciated bodies and wouldn't be able to have any good amount of protein for people in the world, just vegetable, which most people wouldn't be able to afford, so hippies would be starving entire countries... and it's not like they're not trying, but they can only do so much before people die. so then drugs are consumed, lets not even consider that people are dying. cause negatives braw.
Yea, there's enough of it in irl bro.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: zZZz]
#21044294 - 12/30/14 02:30 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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irl there is enough of everything, thankfully, to give life meaning. some kind of meaning. hopefully it can all congeal further and further, but how and why, is up for grabs. thank goodness for that. i know i wouldn't be happy being forced to be happy.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: akira_akuma]
#21044305 - 12/30/14 02:32 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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No one is forcing anyone to be happy, unless you are talking about the doctors prescribing medications.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: underfliptown]
#21044317 - 12/30/14 02:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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underfliptown said: The beyond is the cosmic ocean. All I can do is put it into metaphors. It's literally indescribable. If you've been there you know what I mean. Not many people have been there though. It takes a lot of dmt. A LOT of dmt.
no, it doesn't. just some mushrooms, to see a cosmic way of life.
but that doesn't mean you can access what is cosmic, just by doing drugs. you can see it. but that doesn't mean you've done it. to do the cosmic, is a way better endeavor. and to do the cosmic, you can be on mad drugs, sure... but it doesn't involve sitting in your home, or going out to party. it involves connecting things together in life, for yourself, and maybe those around you if they are excepting, and then seeing through to that: that those connections build onto an overarching experience. THAN you can actually do more than simply "see" the cosmos.
too bad, most hipsters don't get told that by their gurus. oh wait... crap, actually, take away the rest of the rubbish, and they actually do... they don't just do anything cosmic themselves! 
Eckhart Tolle, for example... he's actually had a cosmic and divine experience. it changed him completely. THAT is what happens in the cosmic divine.
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