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Sealing NON-dehydrated Mushrooms
    #21035098 - 12/28/14 11:44 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Hi all!

Just curious can I vac seal mushrooms that have not been dehydrated, will they turn blue? Is the Blue Oxidization?


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Re: Sealing NON-dehydrated Mushrooms [Re: EarthBounded]
    #21035106 - 12/28/14 11:46 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

They will turn more than blue.  Try rotting black liquid.


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Re: Sealing NON-dehydrated Mushrooms [Re: EarthBounded]
    #21035119 - 12/28/14 11:47 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

They will turn to nastiness lol.

The blue is the oxidation of the good chemicals I believe or so I've read, just dry them things out anyway you can.

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Re: Sealing NON-dehydrated Mushrooms [Re: EarthBounded]
    #21035120 - 12/28/14 11:48 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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EarthBounded said:
Hi all!

Just curious can I vac seal mushrooms that have not been dehydrated



No.....they will get moldy.

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EarthBounded said:
Is the Blue Oxidization?




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LeopardMan said:
As far as I know most of the compunds actually involved in the oxidation process of cubes are still unknown.

What we know for sure is that psilocin is directly related to the blueing process.

That has nothing to do with potency though, cause there are many alkaloids which could cause the mushroom to stain blue and psilocin is just one of them.

If you have more recent information, I am always eager to learn.

EDIT: After some research, I am convinced that you found this information in one of Stamets' books, PMW I guess.
But as far as I know, that is old info.

Truth is we still don't know what exactly causes bruising in cubes :shrug:

EDIT2: After some more research, I am now convinced that you got this info from Wikipedia. Problem is there is no mention of phenolic compounds in my copy of PMW (Stamets, 1996, pp.56-8). On the contrary Stamets says:"The color reaction is a co-indicator that psilocin is or was present". Adn he also adds:"The more the mushrooms are bruised, the less potent they become" (which is not true as we all know).

Anyway it's wikipedia fault I guess. I know I don't have to say this, but hey it's nothing personal. I am just a curious guy :jah: 



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Re: Sealing NON-dehydrated Mushrooms [Re: PussyFart]
    #21035132 - 12/28/14 11:50 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Thank you everybody, good thing I asked quick. Thanks PF for the detailed info like always!


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Re: Sealing NON-dehydrated Mushrooms [Re: EarthBounded]
    #21035184 - 12/28/14 12:00 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Vacuum packing foods is something that is not allowed in the food service industry unless your following HAACP protocol to keep the food free of cross contamination.

If you're vacuum packing food and not doing it properly you can give yourself botulism.


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