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HypnotoadCroaked
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: matteo89]
#19359015 - 01/02/14 03:04 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yuck!
Toss that asap.
From what I read above, you had an addition of coffee grounds. This was probably the culprit coupled with the your admission of overheating your casing. If you add anything other than coir and verm, it becomes imperative to be very perfect with your pasteurization. Coffee is a very tricky substance to add to substrates. Every time I have mess with it, I got the green. It can throw off colonization temps (Frank horrigan reported in his coffee experiments that tubs were very warm that had coffee).
It is entirely possible that the trich had started prior to your casing also. Trich loves coffee.
My best wishes go to you in your future grows.
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damn ya it just happens sometimes
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: tripdawg420]
#19359178 - 01/02/14 03:36 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Damn I was hoping for good news it was looking so good. Best of luck on the next try!
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: matteo89]
#21032256 - 12/27/14 03:26 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello again!
A while back I tried my first 12 gallon mono but failed to green trich right after casing. Since thenni figured iut my mistakes, did 2 more attempts but failed. I cleaned up my methods, practiced more sterilized techniques, and keptnit simple this timee.
This time around, I had about 3 qts of popcorn spawn, 4 qts coir 2 qts verm n a couple pinches of gypsum(rehydrated plastor of paris then ground to no larger then a rice kernal. I followed frank harrigans pastuerizing tek and its been 3 days. Everything smells fresh, mushroomy, and earthy. Once its 100% I will case with 4qts verm, peat moss, lime, gympsum (quikstart soil mix). Im hoping for good results as ive been very strict with my pasteurizing temps and sterilization.


Edit: The strain is PE
Edited by matteo89 (12/27/14 03:31 PM)
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: matteo89]
#21033297 - 12/27/14 08:29 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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matteo89
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: matteo89]
#21048137 - 12/31/14 10:30 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hello, its been 7 days since colonization started and this is what it looks like as of today. I have some concerns that I circled in red that I was hoping someone could voice my concerns. Optimistically im hoping its just some metabolites that the myc can take over easily, but im just not too sure, as everything else looks good besides these two dots. It doesnt really look like trich to me, but again cant to so certain. Could grabbing some tweezers soaked in alcohol to pinch these two bits off be a possibility? anyways thanks for the help.. btw as for my next step, as soon as I see 100% colonization I plan on casing.
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: matteo89]
#21048178 - 12/31/14 10:42 AM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Metabolites are produced from myc (please correct me if I am wrong) and appear as a yellow liquid or "myc piss"
Unfortunately if that is green, it is mold.
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: shroomiedoo22]
#21056905 - 01/02/15 02:33 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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This is what it looks like on day 8 of colonizing.. will be pasteurizing casing layer (jiffy start mix + gypsum) and casing either tomorrow or tomorrow night, hoping to be fruiting by next week
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: matteo89]
#21056953 - 01/02/15 02:51 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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That is super bacterial... Good luck with that.
How many popcorn failures is this now? Have you considered... not using popcorn?
Just looked back through this thread. Have you been failing at this for over a year, using popcorn the entire time?
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: Inocuole]
#21057063 - 01/02/15 03:22 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sigh....yes. Tbh its all just been experimental fun(total n00b). My main goal was to just see some fruits be produced. I already know my main mistake is no PC, but I wanted to see if I could work around that by making sure my grain steam sterilization was long and thorough.
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: matteo89] 1
#21057087 - 01/02/15 03:28 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
matteo89 said: Sigh....yes. The its all just been experimental fun(total n00b). My main goal was to just see some fruits be produced. I already know my main mistake is no PC, but I wanted to see if I could work around that by making sure my grain steam sterilization was long and thorough.
If you didn't have a PC, popcorn was the worst choice with the smallest chance of success. Loaded with endospores and a large grain size means a 8 hour steam would probably not have cut the mustard, 10-12 would have been better.
Despite what some people believe there is a certain minimum of procedure that must be followed to have success. Experiments are usually done when the results are in question. There is pretty much zero doubts about what steaming popcorn is going to achieve. Get a cheap PC, get some cheap grain (popcorn is expensive) and get yourself some fruits.
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21057129 - 01/02/15 03:37 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I was looking last night, the cheapest PC I found large enough to do the amount of jars for a grow the size of my preference was almost 80 bucks..ill have to safe up and get that before I attempt anything else. I also plan to try wbs as I have noticed the most results from what I have read.
Even tho the chances of this run working out are slim, what woild be the best move to try and get some sort of flush: to case then fruit or just fruit once this looks 100%
Edit: hey pasty, I just read through your mini monos n loved it!!!! can I ask what type of sub youve been using for them? ive been using Frank Horrigans methods, can they be applied to your mini monos?
I may attempt to do pf tek with ur mini monos just to keep my self busy until I can get a PC
Edited by matteo89 (01/02/15 03:57 PM)
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: matteo89]
#21057149 - 01/02/15 03:43 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Don't waste your time doing grains without a PC. If you cannot afford a PC I'm afraid you're stuck doing pf tek.
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: siko887]
#21057183 - 01/02/15 03:52 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
siko887 said: Don't waste your time doing grains without a PC. If you cannot afford a PC I'm afraid you're stuck doing pf tek.
Hehe ive learned this lesson. ill maybe try pf until I get the PC
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: matteo89]
#21057293 - 01/02/15 04:19 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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With my mini monos you can use any bulk sub you like. Its the same principle as the big monos just less sub and less spawn. 8-10 cakes will be plenty of spawn for 3 quarts of sub
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: Pastywhyte]
#21057339 - 01/02/15 04:31 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just buy a cheap PC. eBay is your friend. http://r.ebay.com/eH7HZp
I use a.similar one. These do around 10-11psi. Just PC your grains for 2hrs and u are fine.. And also. Forget about corn. Its a shit spawn. Work with rye or wbs
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: Aero]
#21057369 - 01/02/15 04:38 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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how many jars can you fit in there aero?
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Aero
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: matteo89]
#21057415 - 01/02/15 04:53 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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I use 720ml jars and I can fit 4 of those
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: Aero]
#21057478 - 01/02/15 05:07 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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Not bad, thats roughly how much grain goes into my quart jars anyways so this could workout better. Are they like jam jars, with the twist on caps?
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Re: Penis Envy on Popcorn 1st grow ever [Re: matteo89]
#21057572 - 01/02/15 05:27 PM (9 years, 1 month ago) |
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