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Patlal
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: qman]
#21031518 - 12/27/14 11:32 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Shit, this thread got a lot more responses then I expected...
Nothing that I think hasn't been posted before.
Lack of political stability will fuck up any country. Stable and respected government is essential for any country to develop properly. Laws/rules have to be in place, respected and enforce to level the playing field. Once that the justice system grabs a firm hold of any country, corruption decreases and suddenly you have a skeleton of what a nation should be like.
Then you have to convince people that usurping government with AKs is not the way to grow. Convince them that talking and voting for laws is the best way to go. This is probably the hardest part because of the lack of education. Uneducated people can't write down their ideas and follow a proper procedure. They would rather kill their opponents than negotiate with them.
THen comes infractrure. Water, sewer and electricity.
From there, things will look up
You seem to be placing all the blame on African citizens, the root of the problem is African leadership which is corrupt in nature.
You can set up all the civil measures you want, if corruption and brutality run wild, what chance does it have? At the end of the day there has to be a decent level of integrity at the leadership level, this is what Africa lacks, this is what the African American community also lacks.
Read my response again and answer your question.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: Patlal]
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Patlal said:
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qman said:
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Patlal said: Shit, this thread got a lot more responses then I expected...
Nothing that I think hasn't been posted before.
Lack of political stability will fuck up any country. Stable and respected government is essential for any country to develop properly. Laws/rules have to be in place, respected and enforce to level the playing field. Once that the justice system grabs a firm hold of any country, corruption decreases and suddenly you have a skeleton of what a nation should be like.
Then you have to convince people that usurping government with AKs is not the way to grow. Convince them that talking and voting for laws is the best way to go. This is probably the hardest part because of the lack of education. Uneducated people can't write down their ideas and follow a proper procedure. They would rather kill their opponents than negotiate with them.
THen comes infractrure. Water, sewer and electricity.
From there, things will look up
You seem to be placing all the blame on African citizens, the root of the problem is African leadership which is corrupt in nature.
You can set up all the civil measures you want, if corruption and brutality run wild, what chance does it have? At the end of the day there has to be a decent level of integrity at the leadership level, this is what Africa lacks, this is what the African American community also lacks.
Read my response again and answer your question.
"Laws/rule have to be in place"
Why do you assume there are no laws in place? I read your post, if there is corruption in the justice system and else where, what difference do the laws make? The leadership sucks.
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Patlal
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: qman]
#21031654 - 12/27/14 12:07 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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qman said:
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Patlal said:
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qman said:
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Patlal said: Shit, this thread got a lot more responses then I expected...
Nothing that I think hasn't been posted before.
Lack of political stability will fuck up any country. Stable and respected government is essential for any country to develop properly. Laws/rules have to be in place, respected and enforce to level the playing field. Once that the justice system grabs a firm hold of any country, corruption decreases and suddenly you have a skeleton of what a nation should be like.
Then you have to convince people that usurping government with AKs is not the way to grow. Convince them that talking and voting for laws is the best way to go. This is probably the hardest part because of the lack of education. Uneducated people can't write down their ideas and follow a proper procedure. They would rather kill their opponents than negotiate with them.
THen comes infractrure. Water, sewer and electricity.
From there, things will look up
You seem to be placing all the blame on African citizens, the root of the problem is African leadership which is corrupt in nature.
You can set up all the civil measures you want, if corruption and brutality run wild, what chance does it have? At the end of the day there has to be a decent level of integrity at the leadership level, this is what Africa lacks, this is what the African American community also lacks.
Read my response again and answer your question.
"Laws/rule have to be in place"
Why do you assume there are no laws in place? I read your post, if there is corruption in the justice system and else where, what difference do the laws make? The leadership sucks.
when the law is clear and law enforcement respect it and have sufficient resources to withhold the law, eventually, things start getting better. The proof is in every 1st world country on earth. It takes time though.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: Patlal] 1
#21031683 - 12/27/14 12:16 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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qman said:
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Patlal said: Shit, this thread got a lot more responses then I expected...
Nothing that I think hasn't been posted before.
Lack of political stability will fuck up any country. Stable and respected government is essential for any country to develop properly. Laws/rules have to be in place, respected and enforce to level the playing field. Once that the justice system grabs a firm hold of any country, corruption decreases and suddenly you have a skeleton of what a nation should be like.
Then you have to convince people that usurping government with AKs is not the way to grow. Convince them that talking and voting for laws is the best way to go. This is probably the hardest part because of the lack of education. Uneducated people can't write down their ideas and follow a proper procedure. They would rather kill their opponents than negotiate with them.
THen comes infractrure. Water, sewer and electricity.
From there, things will look up
You seem to be placing all the blame on African citizens, the root of the problem is African leadership which is corrupt in nature.
You can set up all the civil measures you want, if corruption and brutality run wild, what chance does it have? At the end of the day there has to be a decent level of integrity at the leadership level, this is what Africa lacks, this is what the African American community also lacks.
Read my response again and answer your question.
"Laws/rule have to be in place"
Why do you assume there are no laws in place? I read your post, if there is corruption in the justice system and else where, what difference do the laws make? The leadership sucks.
when the law is clear and law enforcement respect it and have sufficient resources to withhold the law, eventually, things start getting better. The proof is in every 1st world country on earth. It takes time though.
If a community like Ferguson decided to police themselves in the future, you could give them all the "resources to withhold the law", it still wouldn't work. You could give them all the time in the world, it wouldn't make any difference.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: Gilgamesh18]
#21031722 - 12/27/14 12:27 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Pris, sometimes I seriously wanna hug you.
I second that motion
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21031789 - 12/27/14 12:53 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Fergusons problem kinda is the citizens more than the leadership. At least now the African Americans of that community might show up to vote more often. This is directed to qman.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21031825 - 12/27/14 01:09 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Pris, sometimes I seriously wanna hug you.
I second that motion
the both of you
You're gonna find out what it's like to be a chick on the Shroomery. "OOOOH Prizzy can we have more dickpics please? Please Please Please."
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Patlal
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21031945 - 12/27/14 01:52 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ferguson wo't police themselves. They are part of a state within a country.
They will respect the law of the land or be forced to.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: Patlal]
#21031967 - 12/27/14 02:01 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Ferguson wo't police themselves. They are part of a state within a country.
They will respect the law of the land or be forced to.
What are you talking about. They do have a local police force
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21032046 - 12/27/14 02:27 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I Thought this thread was about Africa..
Way to detour the thread once again, qman.
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Patlal
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21032070 - 12/27/14 02:36 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said: Ferguson wo't police themselves. They are part of a state within a country.
They will respect the law of the land or be forced to.
What are you talking about. They do have a local police force
If their police force fails to maintain the situation, the state will intervene. There's no way in hell a city in America goes rogue.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: Patlal]
#21032578 - 12/27/14 05:21 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I haven't read the thread yet.
I hope no one has posted about how we all came from there and cradle of life blah blah.
They make me sick.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: Patlal]
#21032649 - 12/27/14 05:40 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Patlal said:
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zappaisgod said:
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Patlal said: Ferguson wo't police themselves. They are part of a state within a country.
They will respect the law of the land or be forced to.
What are you talking about. They do have a local police force
If their police force fails to maintain the situation, the state will intervene. There's no way in hell a city in America goes rogue.
When the rioting retards overwhelmed the local cops the National guard came in.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21032683 - 12/27/14 05:50 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Anyone who thinks their rioting is good, or that they are rioting for a good cause is moronic. When they riot, its just because they can, and they don't do anything intelligent, they destroy small businesses and overall hurt the working people around them. Even more stupid is that they try to get the cops to attack them, its not like the cops go in guns blazing and attacking the people, they go in peacefully and then get antagonized to the point where they have to do something. Its just ridiculous the reasons they find to riot, especially when there are real reasons to riot.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: SteelPanther]
#21032777 - 12/27/14 06:11 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm quite sure everyone that has posted in this thread is in agreement that rioting doesn't do anything to progress the issue you/they want to fix.
This was about the development of Africa though. Not about Furgeson or rioting. Where did this convo take a turn?
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: kr0nik0]
#21032783 - 12/27/14 06:12 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm not sure.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: Adden] 2
#21033007 - 12/27/14 07:04 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dys said: I haven't read the thread yet.
I hope no one has posted about how we all came from there and cradle of life blah blah.
They make me sick.
Happened a couple of posts back, an Admin said it.
I was waiting for it too. It's a crap argument.
It's like saying "don't trash talk Homo erectus, they're your peeps!".
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: Adden]
#21033025 - 12/27/14 07:08 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Dys said: I haven't read the thread yet.
I hope no one has posted about how we all came from there and cradle of life blah blah.
They make me sick.
You can count on Asante to deliver that garbage, and he did.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: D.M.T]
#21033192 - 12/27/14 07:55 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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In a way the argument about life starting in africa has no relevance since life outside of africa is genetically different. The "humans" at the time who stayed in africa, who later became what we call africans never mated with neanderthals and other humanoids at the time ( for the most part ). Whereas the humans at the time who left africa ended up mating with other humanoids, leading to a large difference between the ones that left africa and the ones that stayed. When you fast forward thousands of years, the mating with different humanoids grows to be a very big difference in genetics. About 5-10% of modern non african genetics is from other humanoid species way back then, and modern africans do not have any of these traits which survived over the years.
Also I think it is relevant to look at groups of predominantly black people that are in other countries. Looking at any area with lots of blacks you will generally notice certain trends. I do not believe poverty in black areas is because of anyone but the people in those areas, it is not probable that all around the entire world blacks are repressed by all non blacks. If that is true then there is a reason why all non blacks dislike all blacks, and that reason is probably reasonable. I personally know a good amount of people that rent out homes, and in their experience renting a house to black people is not a good idea, because problems are generally going to arise.
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Re: Why has Africa never developed??? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21033255 - 12/27/14 08:12 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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zappaisgod said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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Gilgamesh18 said:
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Bodhi of Ankou said: Pris, sometimes I seriously wanna hug you.
I second that motion
the both of you
You're gonna find out what it's like to be a chick on the Shroomery. "OOOOH Prizzy can we have more dickpics please? Please Please Please."
I already have enough of those. I want the real deal now
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