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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: 404]
#21028612 - 12/26/14 03:49 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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404 said: "nothing is real, its all an illusion" i've had this specific thought pattern before, it's related to dissociated states of consciousness, Depersonalization and Derealization in particular. just a tidbit
I used to be really bad with it when i first started taking shrooms a lot. I didnt like when i was referred to anything other than an alien or something lol.
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Yea man like, you just got tah relallly thinkk about it and ponder it ya know man.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: DpRwav]
#21028620 - 12/26/14 03:51 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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yeah, they increased this type of thinking for me too. still not sure if everything is real it's a mindstate i've had before i did drugs though. as a kid, i used to think everyone else was a robot and i was the only human.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: Sheekle]
#21028627 - 12/26/14 03:52 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Not really
How did weed teach you that?
Do all the stoners you know have lung cancer?
I said that weed CAN cause problems. So no - all the stoners I know do not have cancer, sheekle.
If you want a reference, I will get you one -- or 10.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: 404]
#21028652 - 12/26/14 03:59 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Lol thats funny you say that because when i was a kid i used to think to myself why people would wanna grow up to work at mcdonalds and other min wage jobs and that they must not be real "people"
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: DpRwav]
#21028675 - 12/26/14 04:03 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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When i was a kid i used to think mickey d's woulda been the coolest job in the world
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: 404]
#21028679 - 12/26/14 04:03 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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404 said: yeah, they increased this type of thinking for me too. still not sure if everything is real it's a mindstate i've had before i did drugs though. as a kid, i used to think everyone else was a robot and i was the only human.
I think that's a theory of mind thing
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: DpRwav] 2
#21028690 - 12/26/14 04:07 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Weed lets me relax, but I don't think I learned anything from it - other than smoking marijuana is far worse than cigarettes and can cause good ol' lung cancer or respiratory problems.
I find that weed can help me meditate. Rastafarians have been saying this for a while. It also helps me realize if I have been a dick to somebody recently. "When you smoke the herb, it reveals you to yourself" - Bob Marley.
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XLCaps said: The difference between the ones who think drugs teach them anything and the ones who don't is personal accountability.
Explain?
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: lsdkiwi] 1
#21028699 - 12/26/14 04:09 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I find that weed can help me meditate. Rastafarians have been saying this for a while. It also helps me realize if I have been a dick to somebody recently. "When you smoke the herb, it reveals you to yourself" - Bob Marley.
Nice.
Now that you said it, maybe it has taught me something.
I know what you mean about being a dick to someone.
I once smoked weed behind my girls back and realized how much of a dick I had been to her. lol
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: lsdkiwi] 1
#21028724 - 12/26/14 04:16 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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404 said: yeah, they increased this type of thinking for me too. still not sure if everything is real it's a mindstate i've had before i did drugs though. as a kid, i used to think everyone else was a robot and i was the only human.
Everyone has thought about this at some point. To this day I feel like everyone else is predictable while I am unpredictable. I think ultimately this might be because most of us are unaware of our personalities and how we come across to others.
Theres research going on in my University where they are trying to figure out all the information stored in DNA, proteins, and the nervous system; as well as trying to map out the "circuitry" of our brains and nervous systems. Essentially they are trying to reduce the body down to 1's and 0's. The cool thing is, they might eventually prove that humans are pretty much big complicated computers and that consciousness is just an emergent property (emergence explaination) of having so much condensed energy and matter in one place.
Science be crazy. I'm a total nerd
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: lsdkiwi] 1
#21028729 - 12/26/14 04:16 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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that's what shrooms do to me. a while back when i went to Ft. Lauderdale i had a breakthrough in a sense on some family matters with my brother and how i had been such a terrible person, i was able to look at all my mistakes almost from another viewpoint. wasn't pleasant, but i am thankful for it because it was a catalyst to us getting along this holiday season. i hope to further mend the situation
it sucks that other people don't find psychedelics to be as spiritual (personal self growth) and that they do nothing for them, but that's just different strokes i guess. the ones that are blind to it often bash others for finding any use in it ignoring any situation that may have been alleviated by drug consumption (kind of what POM has done here).
there's a real therapeutic value for these substances, and i am glad we have an organization such as MAPS to tackle research and altering the general population's viewpoints and stereotypes regarding them.
edit: that's a pretty interesting concept, Emergence
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: 404] 2
#21028743 - 12/26/14 04:22 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cocaine and alcohol have taught me that I will get a huge horrible hangover the next day if I do too much. Heroin and opiates have taught me that I will puke but feel nice and warm for a little while. Hallucinogens have taught me that I will have a sore face the next day from smiling for several hours. Speed has taught me that I can get a whole lot of shit done in one day but for only one day. Pot has taught me that some drugs are useless in any case
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21028751 - 12/26/14 04:23 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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This might be the best thread on the shroomery
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: luvdemboomers]
#21028757 - 12/26/14 04:26 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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what exactly should I be learning from drugs? patience, respect, tolerance? these arent things you'll learn from drugs, maybe you dose up on LSD or shrooms and suddenly realize you've been an asshole because you looked down on others, a state that only changes to a douchebag of assholes because after use you decide you're enlightened and look down on others that dont believe as you since you're no a free thinker and everyone else needs to be a free thinker that thinks just like you
I never said you should be learning anything. You're the one thattold OP to go to school if he is learning anything from drugs. Psychedelics offer different insights to different people they're not supposed to teach you anything they are nothing more than a (fun) tool.
As for the bolded text... wow. Way to make generalizationss. I'm not even gonna bother saying any more about that.
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so tell us then, how many of the enlightened druggies here are tolerant of the beliefs of otheris, isnt that one of the many things people are supposed to get from psychedelics, seems that most here have no tolerance for bigotry, unless it's their own bigotry against the religious beliefs or the types of people they dont like such as christians or conservatives, do you respect the beliefs of racists. underfliptown said that DMT and mushrooms taught him of a universal conscousness and that he learned that dimensional jumping may be possible.... yet we know that these many dimensions are a construct of the mind, that the mind while in an intoxicated state can in fact concoct many fantastic things that simply cannot be such as a universal consciousness these are the very constructs of the religions that the enlightened druggies bash with so much veracity
Who said anything about psychedelics making "druggies" enlightened? And it's not just drug users. There are plenty of so called free thinking liberals that don't take drugs that are just like the type of people you described.
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maybe drugs taught a lot of people how to be bigger assholes, to be less tolerant, to say things such as "I cant believe that a shroomery mod would hold these kinds of views" because apparently when you use a drug you should be a nonthinking hive mind creature that believes in mysticism and other nonsense while insisting that you're a free thinker
Once again you are making assumptions. You said that if drugs teach you anything you need to go to school. You would think that someone knowledgeable about psychedelics (like a shroomery moderator) would realize that psychedelics can be tools and are not just for druggies looking to get fucked up and see shit.
maybe you should go back and read what I said again
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: Prisoner#1]
#21028766 - 12/26/14 04:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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meth - dont overdue shit pot - things are useless
opiates - you can kill that pain
psychedelics - i cant spell the word correctly every time but knock out a few hours and good times will be had.
benzos - wake up in bed or in jail
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: luvdemboomers]
#21029221 - 12/26/14 06:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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underfliptown said: Hey guys!
Lets make a list of what the different drugs have taught us (good or bad).
drugs havent taught me a damn thing, they're drugs, not people, not books and not an education. if you're 'learning' from drugs then you may need to start attending a new school
I'm pretty dumbfounded that a moderator on the shroomery would make a statement like this.
Yeah..seems like the older psychedelic users get, the more cynical they become because they want to show off this "i don't need anything, im smarter because I am older and im not going to agree with little kids"
I see it all the time on here..
it really is sad.
lets get this straight..
DRUGS CAN TEACH YOU THINGS IF YOU LET THEM
BUT THEY CANNOT CRACK LIFES MYSTERIES SUCH AS LIFE AFTER DEATH AND HOW THE UNIVERSE WAS CONCIEVED..they are called mysteries for a reason.
now, older mods/users, please..we get it..youre older and "been there, done that" but please, stop being so damn elitist.
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#21029238 - 12/26/14 06:37 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the older people on here are just jealous because their old minds can no longer handle these drugs, so since they have been out of the psychedelic realm for so long, they naturally forgot its sacredness. So now they have no choice but to act like a know-it-all
like I said, I see it on here all the damn time.
People learn through EXPERIENCE. And what does psychedelic drugs give us? EXPERIENCES!
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
#21029253 - 12/26/14 06:42 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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underfliptown said: Hey guys!
Lets make a list of what the different drugs have taught us (good or bad).
drugs havent taught me a damn thing, they're drugs, not people, not books and not an education. if you're 'learning' from drugs then you may need to start attending a new school
I'm pretty dumbfounded that a moderator on the shroomery would make a statement like this.
Yeah..seems like the older psychedelic users get, the more cynical they become because they want to show off this "i don't need anything, im smarter because I am older and im not going to agree with little kids"
I see it all the time on here..
it really is sad.
lets get this straight..
DRUGS CAN TEACH YOU THINGS IF YOU LET THEM
BUT THEY CANNOT CRACK LIFES MYSTERIES SUCH AS LIFE AFTER DEATH AND HOW THE UNIVERSE WAS CONCIEVED..they are called mysteries for a reason.
now, older mods/users, please..we get it..youre older and "been there, done that" but please, stop being so damn elitist.
Plus some people just don't get anything out of psychedelics. Seems like people that are drug users that just do psychs when because they are around are like that. Then you have the people that actually seek out psychedelics, I think those are the people that tend to get things from them.
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Re: What have different drugs taught you? [Re: luvdemboomers]
#21029271 - 12/26/14 06:46 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I looked at some of Pris's old posts from 04 and such, and he all about helping people cultivate mushrooms and teaching people valuable lessons HE LEARNED..now years later he wants to pretend he was never one of us?
give me a break.
he wasn't always a political obsessed elitist-attitude know--it-all, ya know..
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