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gr33ntea
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Does anyone have experience air layering cacti?
#21026254 - 12/25/14 10:20 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I want to air layer my san pedro, i have watched videos on air layering but these were done on woody stems of trees.
The process for trees is from what i learnt 1. Wound the outer area and remove the outer hard skin 2. Optional: Apply rooting hormone 3. Apply peat, moss, or some kind of medium and seal with glad wrap or a plastic bottle
After some time roots come out.
I am wondering if it is possible with cacti? Would i have to wound the outer layer, because i have a feeling it would be infected quickly.
I think it is important to air layer cacti (for impatient people) so when we take cutting, it is already rooted and we just have to wait for the cutting to callous. Also i am planning on doing some experiments, hydroponics wise. Thanks for your time.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Does anyone have experience air layering cacti? [Re: gr33ntea]
#21026311 - 12/25/14 10:33 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't think air layering would work with cacti. That's just what I believe and here is my reasoning. For one you would have to have a branch close to the ground. Then it would have to be bent. I don't believe I have ever grown a columnar cacti that did not snap when bent. Now scraping the skin of a cacti could induce rot. Your safest bet is just cut the cactus, callous and root it out.
that's just what I think and I know there is alot of people that will come out the wood work to disprove me. So go ahead and make me think otherwise.
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ferrel_human
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Re: Does anyone have experience air layering cacti? [Re: ferrel_human]
#21026333 - 12/25/14 10:38 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I should have added that some cacti will strike root with out air layering. I have cacti that grow next to a fence and throw roots from the side.
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Edited by ferrel_human (12/25/14 10:38 PM)
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gr33ntea
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Re: Does anyone have experience air layering cacti? [Re: ferrel_human]
#21026444 - 12/25/14 11:06 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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ferrel_human said: I should have added that some cacti will strike root with out air layering. I have cacti that grow next to a fence and throw roots from the side.
Yes my pereskiopsis do this a lot, if they are not completely vertical such as on an angle, they will root. No doubt gravity tells the cacti when to root. I saw somewhere on shroomery a loph grafted onto a trich was air rooted so it would be grow faster when degrafted but i cant seem to find it :S
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TheTortoise

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Re: Does anyone have experience air layering cacti? [Re: gr33ntea]
#21027150 - 12/26/14 08:31 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19400989/fpart/all/vc/1
I think hookahead's idea from this thread is worth experimenting with. I'm going to try it out once I find some burlap or something similar laying around
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karode13
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Re: Does anyone have experience air layering cacti? [Re: gr33ntea]
#21029885 - 12/26/14 09:25 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I can't see why this wouldn't work. I've often thought of doing this but haven't gotten around to it.
My thinking would be to strap some sphagnum moss or damp coir to the stem. Wounding probably wouldn't be necessary but if you did wound I would allow it to callus before strapping anything damp to it. Callus tissue is where roots grow from when taking traditional cuttings from vascular plants The damp media would increase humidity and in theory aerial roots would grow there.
Try it if you can and report back.
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gr33ntea
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Re: Does anyone have experience air layering cacti? [Re: karode13]
#21034241 - 12/28/14 06:10 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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TheTortoise said: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/19400989/fpart/all/vc/1
I think hookahead's idea from this thread is worth experimenting with. I'm going to try it out once I find some burlap or something similar laying around
Yep that is the thread i was looking for, i am going to try it with a well established trichocereus and see if it works.
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karode13 said: Callus tissue is where roots grow from when taking traditional cuttings from vascular plants
I always thought it came out from the sides? for me it usually callouses and maybe some roots would come out from the very bottom of the sides
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mastercultivator
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Re: Does anyone have experience air layering cacti? [Re: gr33ntea]
#21035761 - 12/28/14 02:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'm guessing it would work. But I don't see why for most cacti. Cacti can be lopped, rooted, placed on their sides, grafted, and more. So I don't see a need for it.
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gr33ntea
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Re: Does anyone have experience air layering cacti? [Re: mastercultivator]
#21042065 - 12/29/14 11:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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mastercultivator said: I'm guessing it would work. But I don't see why for most cacti. Cacti can be lopped, rooted, placed on their sides, grafted, and more. So I don't see a need for it.
I am being impatient to be honest. When i take a graft i usually take a trichocereus cutting, graft on it, and let the bottom of the stock callous and root.
However i am going to try this with non cacti plants. Family friends said i could have a branch of their cherry tree so i think i'll do it to a branch and come back for it in a month or so and plant it instantly
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