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ThatKidWithTheFace
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So here's the plan. What do you think?
#21019733 - 12/24/14 12:02 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Okay, so a buddy of mine got some spores and two mad-bags for Christmas. He's planning on inoculating the mad-bags, getting a flush or two off of them, then spawning them to a couple of horse poo trays, and putting them in a SGFC. Do y'all see any problems with this plan? Got any tips?
Also, he's got one little problem. The place he's staying at the moment is a poorly insulated little building with one space-heater. The tempature varies wildly, but I guess the average would be in the low 50's. I'm pretty sure that this is a bit too cold for Cubensis, right? Well, my friend read about using the two tubs and fish-tank heater, and also about using a heating mat. In y'alls experience, which is the best method. Or, at least, your personal favorite.
You see, my buddy here really likes mushrooms, and kinda needs this to work out. You know what I mean? So it'd be awful cool if y'all would help me out.
And, please, no "UTFSE". I've read countless pages on the subjects, I just want to hear individual opinions on this plan.
Thanks and Merry Christmas.
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cronicr



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Do not spawn a fruited sub, doesn't work well,cubes will grow at coolertemps like that but bettr at 65 to 80
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ThatKidWithTheFace
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Re: So here's the plan. What do you think? [Re: cronicr]
#21023377 - 12/24/14 11:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Oh, okay. I didn't know that about fruited substrate. I guess that's a pretty fatal flaw with my plan 
Thanks for the tip!
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mrbart4444
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Dont spawn a fruiting bag . Dont innoc bags ethier IMO i hate bags jars are way better. Just spawn the grain to the hpoo sub.
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Re: So here's the plan. What do you think? [Re: mrbart4444]
#21023754 - 12/25/14 04:02 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bags suck, until you realize you can pc more spawn at once in your pc and reduce pc time by 50%......
I misplaced my bags!!!! Gah!
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mrbart4444
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Re: So here's the plan. What do you think? [Re: bay_shroomz]
#21024492 - 12/25/14 11:51 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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yea but more grain = more colozation time which more likely to contam .
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taGyo
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Re: So here's the plan. What do you think? [Re: mrbart4444]
#21024566 - 12/25/14 12:11 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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mrbart4444 said: yea but more grain = more colozation time which more likely to contam .
That's true but it's not really a reason to NOT use bags IMO.
Proper sterile technique will see the bags fully colonized and no contams. Or use an LI or LC. Bags are easier for people who can't spend all that time PCing or simply don't have a big enough PC to handle multiple jars. With that being said I use jars but don't NOT use bags because you think they're more likely to contam.
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cronicr



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Re: So here's the plan. What do you think? [Re: mrbart4444]
#21024642 - 12/25/14 12:36 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
mrbart4444 said: yea but more grain = more colozation time which more likely to contam .
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taGyo
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Re: So here's the plan. What do you think? [Re: cronicr]
#21024718 - 12/25/14 12:58 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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cronicr said:
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mrbart4444 said: yea but more grain = more colozation time which more likely to contam .

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mrbart4444
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Re: So here's the plan. What do you think? [Re: cronicr]
#21024724 - 12/25/14 12:59 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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i have a grudge on spawn bags for this very reason
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taGyo
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Re: So here's the plan. What do you think? [Re: mrbart4444]
#21024728 - 12/25/14 01:00 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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More likely improper sterile technique
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mrbart4444
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Re: So here's the plan. What do you think? [Re: taGyo]
#21024743 - 12/25/14 01:04 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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maybe , but i always do stuff right. Might have been the Iodide in the grains. It started to grow but stalled after like 3%
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ThatKidWithTheFace
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Re: So here's the plan. What do you think? [Re: mrbart4444]
#21024800 - 12/25/14 01:20 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Well, I don't have a PC, so the presterilized bags seemed like a good route to give it a try. I know I can do the PF tek without a PC, but hey, it was a Christmas gift
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taGyo
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Pre-sterilized?
These were my premade jars:

Should have used the holiday times to get yourself an 80 dollar presto 23 qt PC that will last you your whole life with proper care and 2-5 years not giving a fuck, Good luck,
- Gyo
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ThatKidWithTheFace
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Re: So here's the plan. What do you think? [Re: taGyo]
#21024811 - 12/25/14 01:24 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, you know, the Mad-Season grow bags.
Anyways, I wasn't really planning to grow right now, but my pops knew how much I like mushrooms, so he got me some B+ spores and two mad bags.
I love my fam.
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taGyo
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Start them now or re-sterilize them later.
When we sterilize we give grains a 2 week window in which bacteria is stunted and mold is almost non-existent (I say almost because I'm not sure how mold really reacts to sterilization). The problem with ordering grow bags is you never know when they're sterilized. For all you know the guys over at whatever company you ordered them from sterilized them 2 weeks ago and pulled them off the shelf today, then took 5 days to ship to you and then your dad held on to it for who knows how long. The colonization process takes a long time, better to start now then later.
If you have 1 B+ syringe I'd knock up your bags with 1 and store the rest of the syringe in the fridge. I don't personally use bags so I'm not sure how many CCs each gets.
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