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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Who has noticed bruising on their fimetaria/hispanica ?? I picked some and got some great pics of bluing that happened within minutes of handling


Edited by fireinyoface (10/29/23 09:15 PM)

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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: fireinyoface]
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Nice bluing! Am I right in thinking you also posted this to r/fimetaria?

Some people's cultivated P.fimetaria does blue strongly like yours do. Not all, however.


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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
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I wouldn't focus too much on varying spore colours of closely related Psilocybes. The differences,if there are any, will likely be minute and in the subjective range. Remember a highly concentrated/dense spore deposit may appear darker than a spore deposit consisting of less spores.


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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: fireinyoface]
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fireinyoface said:
Who has noticed bruising on their fimetaria/hispanica ?? I picked some and got some great pics of bluing that happened within minutes of handling




Do you have a log? What was the substrate, what type of isolation was this?


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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: DH42] * 1
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These from the plastic container and glass jar have no bruising




These from the basket all have bruising


Edited by fireinyoface (11/01/23 02:54 PM)

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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
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No log and it was just a different culture from a different plate but same original print. Going to be trying to determine if it was genetic or environmental, but I would assume there were would be more bruising on wild specimens if it was environmental. I think it's genetics personally but I'll keep you all posted

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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: fireinyoface]
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If you think its genetics i will buy you a set of miraculix test. Or get one yourself!


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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: smalltalk_canceled]
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Shoot me a link to something legit I'd like to have that resource!

I say I think it's genetic because they are all in similar substrates outside in similar conditions and these are so obviously different. Also I imagine their natural environment is the same if not better than what I have going right now.

I'm cloning the basket culture to see if I can replicate it in different settings. I'm hoping to get to the bottom of the environment vs genetics question

Edited by fireinyoface (11/01/23 08:16 PM)

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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: fireinyoface] * 1
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fireinyoface said:
Shoot me a link to something legit I'd like to have that resource!



The Miraculix tests are available at https://www.miraculix-lab.de/en. ; Note that there is a link to another site to order them in the US.  They are accurate to within about 10%, which is less accurate than HPLC but mushrooms differ from one mushroom to the next more than 10% so the accuracy is fine.

Best place to send them for DNA barcoding to confirm the species is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nSKlouFy1Z3OXbCf2cWiKH0hkDnFKZvPn6_oCr3vEK0/edit

It's free, though he does accept donations.

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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 1
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:takingnotes:

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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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Thanks Alan! I'm going to order some of those tests. I'd also love to send in samples for sequencing but I had always wondered if there was any legal risk with something like that? Is there anything to worry about when sending psilocybe through the mail, or is it safe because it's headed to a lab?

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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: fireinyoface] * 1
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fireinyoface said:
Thanks Alan! I'm going to order some of those tests. I'd also love to send in samples for sequencing but I had always wondered if there was any legal risk with something like that? Is there anything to worry about when sending psilocybe through the mail, or is it safe because it's headed to a lab?



There is legal risk but not much.  Mail cops only care about large amounts.  If you are sending ten pounds you should worry, but no one cares about a couple of grams.

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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
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From the outdoor "Hispanica"

For another round


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Edited by smalltalk_canceled (11/05/23 12:38 PM)

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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 3
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A few fresh data points, in case something here helps with this mystery.

Last summer I got a hispanica print from (unnamed sponsor), which was in foil but otherwise looked essentially identical to covertjoy's print. Black spores, tiny. I remember noting at the time that it indirectly came from FSE, though now I don't see why I thought that -- it may have said something on the part of the print's outer foil that is currently folded over in the bag? (I could check that later.) So, these are possibly the same genetics ultimately from CaptainFuture, but not sure.

It's been fruiting on BRF/verm PF-tek cakes in a water tub and in vitro (pp5 quarts), though they didn't start pinning until this winter, when the room cooled from 68-70 F / 20-21 C to around 57-60 F / 14-15 C. They didn't need a casing, dung, or anything else special besides a cooler environment, as far as I can tell. (I did top most of them with a little coir, but others fruited just as well without.) Everything below was inoculated with LCs I made from a couple different agar selections, after several rounds of transfers to clean up the original germination.

I've made a couple prints so far, and hope to have more in the next couple weeks. In person the lighter prints have looked like faintly applied prints of black spores, rather than purple or brown, but next time I'll take better close-up pictures than these:

Two heavier prints.


A lighter print (somewhat poorly lit picture).


Several fruits on an in vitro cake, seemingly mature though not yet dropping spores.

I did a miraculix test, the first one I've seen for hispanica. It's the vial on the left (right is ochraceocentrata), probably around 1.0 - 1.1%? That thread has more pictures and a second opinion from Bigworm, who has far more experience reading those tests. I have not tried them yet, but hope to have time in the next month or two. Edit: I haven't noticed any of these bluing/bruising during harvest, aside from the bit of bruising on the cake above, which got banged around a little getting it out of the plastic quart jar.


(left)

A few more pictures, including some close-ups on the gill details underneath.


Several in a PF-tek jar, just pulled out of my water tub.


Same jar, different angle.


Gills on a cap from the other water tub jar, which looks like it may be ready to print very soon.


Same cap, from above.


Several in a pp5 quart.


Gills and veil remnants underneath one of those.

Edited to note general lack of bluing.

Edited by pickle_jars (02/17/26 04:48 PM)

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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: pickle_jars] * 1
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Great work


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Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: pickle_jars]
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I just put your spores on agar. They're growing next to my p semilanceata agar :smile:


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