Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   North Spore Bulk Substrate

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1
OfflineDH42
Local to somewhere
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 92
Loc: Scotland Flag
Last seen: 2 days, 4 hours
Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Alan Rockefeller] * 1
    #27762497 - 05/04/22 08:43 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

I agree Alan, the ones in this thread do look similar to P.fimetaria. I'll attach some examples of hispanica-looking-fimetaria below.

If P.hispanica is actually P.fimetaria, it would mean we would be able to add sheep manure to the list of substrate from which P.fimetaria grows. Also, I have a suspicion that P.fimetaria might grow from Red Deer manure - at least in Scotland/UK.

I saw in another comment, from a few years ago, you said you had an ITS and LSU sequence of P.hispanica. Have you tried comparing the ITS to one of P.fimetaria?














--------------------
Have a look at the subreddit r/fimetaria!


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
OfflineDH42
Local to somewhere
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 92
Loc: Scotland Flag
Last seen: 2 days, 4 hours
Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: V.L] * 1
    #27765544 - 05/06/22 07:07 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Quote:

V.L said:
Yes maybe they are conspecific with fimetaria (I don’t think with semilanceata) I hope Alan will receive the prints and could give the final answer with genome sequencing.. personally really love how they look! hispanica or even if it’s same with fimetaria.. do you or someone have a fimetaria prints? so I can work also on it to try to do a comparative grow. And does anyone know a bit more about hispanica/fimetaria usual potency?





Perhaps they are conspecific with P.fimetaria. You are right - they are definitely different to P.semilanceata. However, they are undoubtedly closely related.

I do have some P.fimetaria prints.

Potency for P.fimetaria (and perhaps, by extension, P.hispanica) is an unresolved topic. From what I have observed and been told, the potency varies considerably for P.fimetaria. Most often it is considerably less potent than, say, P.semilanceata. However, some people report effects on par with P.semilanceata gram-for-gram. The issue ties in with the (lack of) blue bruising found on most P.fimetaria specimens. I believe it might be something to do with differing substrate. I think cow manure produces weak specimens whereas horse manure can produce more moderate ones. However, the existence of P.liniformans confuses things considerably. It looks practically identical to P.fimetaria and the only differing macroscopic feature is the presence of a separable gelatinous gill edge. So, I believe some of the people who have reported strong trips off P.fimetaria *might* have been actually consuming P.liniformans. More work is needed!


--------------------
Have a look at the subreddit r/fimetaria!


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
OfflineDH42
Local to somewhere
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 92
Loc: Scotland Flag
Last seen: 2 days, 4 hours
Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: inski] * 3
    #27765546 - 05/06/22 07:08 AM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Quote:

inski said:
I think Psilocybe alutacea should be included in these comparisons.






Another potential candidate for P.fimetaria!



--------------------
Have a look at the subreddit r/fimetaria!


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
OfflineDH42
Local to somewhere
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 92
Loc: Scotland
Last seen: 2 days, 4 hours
Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27780540 - 05/16/22 04:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

very nice - on the assumption that they are growing from dung (which it looks like they are) they may well be P.fimetaria!


--------------------
Have a look at the subreddit r/fimetaria!


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
OfflineDH42
Local to somewhere
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 92
Loc: Scotland
Last seen: 2 days, 4 hours
Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Baba Yaga]
    #27909455 - 08/19/22 11:11 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

Nice One Baba Yaga :thumbup:


--------------------
Have a look at the subreddit r/fimetaria!


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
OfflineDH42
Local to somewhere
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 92
Loc: Scotland Flag
Last seen: 2 days, 4 hours
Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: el gordo] * 1
    #28496427 - 10/08/23 11:28 AM (3 months, 19 days ago)

It is very likely that P.hispanica is really P.fimetaria. I am in contact with the finder of the holotype and will hopefully get a few sequences of 'P.hispanica; in a month or two. The pictures that Alan refers to above were taken by this same person.

However, I think it is not impossible that it may be a distinct taxon. I have the ITS and TEF1 sequences from the P.hispanica holotype; the TEF1 doesn't really match to anything and the ITS is too incomplete to get anything very useful from it. The holotype was collected in the 1990s, so a fresh 'P.hispanica' from the original collector should confirm whether or not the species is a synonym. P.fimetaria certainly grows throughout the Pyrenees, but perhaps there is another species hiding there? I will update later in the year once we (hopefully) know!


--------------------
Have a look at the subreddit r/fimetaria!


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
OfflineDH42
Local to somewhere
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 92
Loc: Scotland Flag
Last seen: 2 days, 4 hours
Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: Inocybe]
    #28516873 - 10/24/23 05:05 PM (3 months, 2 days ago)

Inocybe, great write up, thank you for sharing that!

The genbank sequence KC669289.1 is, as it does appear, P.semilanceata. I have discussed this with Fernandez-Sasia. P.semilanceata fruiting underneath dung can produce some strange and confusing results, particularly in giving the illusion of it actually growing from dung in the same way that any obligately coprophilous fungus would.

Guzman's description of P.hispanica is faulty. I am in contact with the finder of the original holotype and hopefully something useful will be sequenced this year relating to it. P.hispanica's taxonomic position is certainly confusing, and we can't rush to synonymise it with P.fimetaria or P.liniformans prematurely.

Also, the species all display some level of polymorphism when cultivated artificially, which is interesting!


--------------------
Have a look at the subreddit r/fimetaria!


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
OfflineDH42
Local to somewhere
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 92
Loc: Scotland Flag
Last seen: 2 days, 4 hours
Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: fireinyoface] * 1
    #28519756 - 10/27/23 03:45 AM (3 months, 7 hours ago)

Lovely pics of...Psilocybe fimetaria


--------------------
Have a look at the subreddit r/fimetaria!


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
OfflineDH42
Local to somewhere
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 92
Loc: Scotland Flag
Last seen: 2 days, 4 hours
Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: fireinyoface]
    #28523083 - 10/30/23 07:10 AM (2 months, 28 days ago)

Nice bluing! Am I right in thinking you also posted this to r/fimetaria?

Some people's cultivated P.fimetaria does blue strongly like yours do. Not all, however.


--------------------
Have a look at the subreddit r/fimetaria!


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
OfflineDH42
Local to somewhere
 User Gallery


Registered: 10/05/20
Posts: 92
Loc: Scotland Flag
Last seen: 2 days, 4 hours
Re: Psilocybe hispanica [Re: smalltalk_canceled] * 1
    #28523086 - 10/30/23 07:12 AM (2 months, 28 days ago)

I wouldn't focus too much on varying spore colours of closely related Psilocybes. The differences,if there are any, will likely be minute and in the subjective range. Remember a highly concentrated/dense spore deposit may appear darker than a spore deposit consisting of less spores.


--------------------
Have a look at the subreddit r/fimetaria!


Extras: Unfilter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1

Shop: Original Sensible Seeds Bulk Cannabis Seeds   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags   PhytoExtractum Maeng Da Thai Kratom Leaf Powder   North Spore Bulk Substrate


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Psilocybe hispanica - Pins on agar (Updated 5-25-06)
( 1 2 all )
WorkmanV 8,645 26 12/05/06 04:51 AM
by myCo_psyCo
* Psilocybe Hispanica.. anybody grown it? Know how? Dogomush 1,444 4 11/15/02 11:21 AM
by mycofile
* P. hispanica grow TEK
( 1 2 all )
Zanti 6,732 21 06/13/03 04:31 AM
by Ryche Hawk
* Where's a Hispanica tek? Dogomush 1,064 3 05/27/03 02:09 PM
by comario2
* Psilocybe semilanceata spores Zanti 13,494 10 08/08/07 10:19 AM
by Workman
* NEW WORLD PSILOCYBE SPECIES nachoo 1,986 8 08/28/01 01:39 PM
by dioze1
* Re: Psilocybe natalensis and Psilocybe zapatecorum info please Anonymous 1,739 5 04/20/00 08:25 PM
by phree_1
* salvia hispanica L grain in substrate???? es_f1 1,371 6 02/16/08 07:54 PM
by Subbedhunter420

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: RogerRabbit, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta
23,549 topic views. 2 members, 16 guests and 3 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.031 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 15 queries.