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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: TheChief]
    #20434701 - 08/17/14 09:35 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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Rice a Roni and Ramen will never teach you how to really cook.




Amen brother! 

Best case scenario with a kit:  You get some shrooms to fruit and get your moneys worth back.

But... you know next to nothing about inoculation, sterile procedures, substrates, or the general life cycle of a mushroom.

For your second grow you will STILL have to learn all that info...

Best to just learn it upfront and first.



Worst case scenario:

Kit #1


Kit #2


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Kit #1 made it to about 75% colonization before trich took it over.  Kit #2 rotted away behind #1 for most of the time unknown, the kits directions said to leave them alone in a dark place for weeks (a small closet in my case).  Both kits did end up failing for a total of $270 including shipping down the drain.  On top of that, who knows how many nasty spores were released into my home.  The awesome part about this story is I complained to the vendor about the horrible instructions and was given a full refund.  You can read more about this in the full thread here.

Luckily I did manage save some of the spawn and produced mushrooms from it...  This was right around the same time I found the Shroomery and started researching heavily.  Was quite a roller coaster ride of a grow but somehow I managed to make something of it and learned a bunch along the way.  You can check that out here.

-TheChief




Actually getting all you rmoney back and learning to do things the right way sounds like the best case scenario.  You lucked out


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Re: The Official [Re: Erlik Khan]
    #20435934 - 08/18/14 04:58 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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Actually getting all you rmoney back and learning to do things the right way sounds like the best case scenario.  You lucked out



I was speaking for the kits themselves, 100% failure for both of them was the worst that could happen.  The fact that I managed to get my money back and make something from the spawn, had little to do with the kits helping me.  The instructions were some of the worst of all time.  I did learn a lot though so I guess the kits kind of led me down the road to success.  I see what your saying.


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Re: The Official [Re: TheChief]
    #20460523 - 08/22/14 04:24 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

n00b here. I can understand why grow kits are tempting, especially as I've gone to various web sites and watched videos on how to grow and the instructions are long, tedious, and contain all sorts of words I've never heard before. I would be very happy to pay someone $50-100 for 400g of fresh, home-grown mushrooms.

Granted, I haven't sat down and actually read the volumes of text on the subject, but it doesn't seem as easy as growing cannabis, which is basically equivalent to dropping seeds on the ground and coming back later.


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Re: The Official [Re: white_knight]
    #20460544 - 08/22/14 04:28 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

i dont thinks that how you grow high grade buds and ya growing your own is worth learning :thumbup:


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Re: The Official [Re: white_knight]
    #20460557 - 08/22/14 04:31 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

The problem is that you give them $50-$100 for a kit made by a retard and instructions written by a moron. Then when the kit doesn't pin, produce much, or contams you will be back here asking what to do. Then we tell you to do a lot of reading and learn what the words you don't understand mean. Better to save your $100 and buy a PC with it :thumbup:


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Re: The Official [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20460567 - 08/22/14 04:33 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

right :thumbup:


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Re: The Official [Re: white_knight]
    #20460590 - 08/22/14 04:37 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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I would be very happy to pay someone $50-100 for 400g of fresh, home-grown mushrooms.





Hopefully you mean "Happy to pay someone $50-100 for a grow-kit to grow 400g of fresh, home-grown mushrooms.


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Re: The Official [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20460597 - 08/22/14 04:39 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

At least when you spend that money on the DIY and it fails, it's much cheaper to try again and your chance of success increases because you likely learned something from your fail.


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Re: The Official [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20460609 - 08/22/14 04:42 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

The price isn't the issue. I spent well over $1000 dollars on stupid shit before I finally figured out what the fuck I was doing. The problem with kits is they don't work well and you don't really learn how to grow.


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Re: The Official [Re: white_knight]
    #20460615 - 08/22/14 04:43 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Grow kits suck because they defeat the experience of learning how to tend for mushrooms from start to finish, and they take away from the excitement of mycology

Sadly, they impair the learning and importance of proper sterile tech and that's why they contam often, because they don't know what they're doing

Why pay up to $70 for a kit, when you can learn a ton more from all that yield even more for under $30


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Re: The Official [Re: Mushiez]
    #20463589 - 08/23/14 08:13 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I started with a pre made in-vitro grow bag. not necessarily a kit but still shit. My next grow cost less than 3 bags and produced way more and my 2nd grow was still shit. but at least it was do it myself.


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Re: The Official [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20476257 - 08/25/14 07:02 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I just want to have mushrooms because I have some trauma I want to sort out and I believe a safe and controlled use of psilocybin may help me immensely to help me let go of whatever is bothering me. I don't want to grow mushrooms but because our laws are inane, I have no choice but to grow my own. If I could walk down to the neighborhood psychonaut shop and buy 5g of dried mushrooms, I would do that tomorrow. I don't want to be a mycologist. Hell, I don't even like eating regular mushrooms.

But I have to do what I have to do.

Hopefully someday once cannabis is legalized, our government will catch up with the 10th century BC and un-schedule psilocybin if not fully legalize it.


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Re: The Official [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #20476493 - 08/25/14 07:54 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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At least when you spend that money on the DIY and it fails, it's much cheaper to try again and your chance of success increases because you likely learned something from your fail.




And you still have all the supplies to continue trying, not like a kit. With a kit you have to throw that shit away.


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Re: The Official [Re: Sockadin]
    #20476641 - 08/25/14 08:24 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I agree that a kit isn't the way to go. I am merely saying that as a newbie I understand the allure of such a kit. I am sure that once you go through the process a few times, like with kombucha tea, it all makes a lot of sense.


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Re: The Official [Re: white_knight]
    #20502189 - 08/31/14 03:08 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Download the Let's Grow Mushrooms videos in my sig and watch the first few before doing anything. Purchase the items RR tells you to get. Then just do the PF tek and see how you like it. Don't invest in a PC or too much equipment until you see if you actually like doing this. You probably will, but you may not, so try this first. It's cheap, fast, and very easy to do it yourself if you follow directions well.

My aversion to grow kits is rooted primarily in the fact that they're a total ripoff. When I first started, I bought a kit. I soon realized that half the crap in the kit was unnecessary, and I could've easily set up a proper grow for probably a third (or less) of what I paid for the kit. Most of the stuff required for a proper PF grow was just laying around the house anyway. Luckily, I didn't get any contams on my first grow, but the not-so-proven methods in their directions could've easily been a huge flop and I would've had to start back at square one. Good luck :grin::thumbup:


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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: Andrew9115] * 1
    #21018004 - 12/23/14 04:57 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

I got a kit from Midwest 139$ I don't give a fuck about saving the money, I rather save the time! I'm very busy, working all the fucking time. So when I'm home I wanna fucking chill!! My kit works fine for my needs, I'm not a drug dealer or a grocery store, so I don't need pounds of shrooms!  I aslo dont want to fuck around with criminals like everyone else here! I would never in my life take the time to go searching for the shit just to save some money, iI'm not trying to be an asshole snob because I used to rank with the have nots pretty hard! So I understand if a person can feel angry when they find out its much cheaper to DIY. But if by your like me and would probably never get to experience shrooms unless you bought a kit, its not as bad as people make it out. If your trying to rule the world scar face style, then fuck a grow kit it won't get you there!!!! NOTE: I'm not trying to disrespect anyone's love for their hobby, or scientific field, this is just me and I know for a fact a lot of people would agree. While most people would strongly disagree, it doesn't stop me from getting my goals accomplished and having a blast!! I love life and Ilove shroomies!!!!


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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: 420_shroomer] * 1
    #21018016 - 12/23/14 05:00 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

you're just lazy as fuck. I work 55 to 65 hours a week, cook dinner half of the time my wife the other half and still have time for hobbies. if you give a shit you find the time, if you're one of those people you buy a kit.

Even if you want just a few for yourself if you can't figure out how to grow a few eighths for yourself for around 30-40$ then you have research skills below that of a 4th grader. the time investment is minimal 30m a day a few days and then you sit and wait the rest of the time.


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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: 420_shroomer]
    #21018027 - 12/23/14 05:04 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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But if by your like me and would probably never get to experience shrooms unless you bought a kit, its not as bad as people make it out.




Unfortunately,many people never get to experience mushrooms because they DO buy a kit.


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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #21018043 - 12/23/14 05:08 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

:lol: very true.

the reason it sounds silly is because most of us had started there just wanting a few shrooms for ourselves and buying 100 dollar kits. we at least had the tenacity to try again a second time without a kit and actually having to figure out and learn.

some people figure out and learn their first time and avoid the kit all together. so if you're really actually serious and interested your first post would be of results.


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Re: The Official "Grow Kits Suck" Thread [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #21018094 - 12/23/14 05:21 PM (9 years, 2 months ago)

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But if by your like me and would probably never get to experience shrooms unless you bought a kit, its not as bad as people make it out.




Unfortunately,many people never get to experience mushrooms because they DO buy a kit.




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