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topdog82
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Do you give money to homeless people?
#21016619 - 12/23/14 11:37 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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My dad and me always argue about this. He is the type to give money to every homeless person he sees. At least $20
His logic: "This guy may have ended up here due to circumstances that aren't his fault. Good people may have been misfortuned and put in a bad life position" My logic: "They may spend that money on drugs/alcohol. It also doesn't really cure the cause of the issue"
I am hoenstly in a dilemna because I feel bad, but what am I to do?
What is your response to a beggar, and why?
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Revok
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: topdog82] 3
#21016629 - 12/23/14 11:40 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I loathe people who give money to homeless people thinking "Don't spend it on drugs or alcohol". Like your 2 dollars were just what they needed to put them over the top. Of course a lot of cats want to get high and forget about their problems. Give freely or shut the fuck up!
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badchad
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Revok]
#21016638 - 12/23/14 11:42 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I often give money. Not always, but a lot of the time.
I do it because I have the money to spare, and the appearance of gratitude is worth the dollar or two.
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Revok
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: badchad]
#21016642 - 12/23/14 11:43 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I would be grateful for anything anybody can spare, going through some tough times, pm me if you want to know more.
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Revok]
#21016827 - 12/23/14 12:16 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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No, they chose that lifestyle. Why should I give them my hard earned money while they sit around doing nothing for themselves?
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Revok
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: grower182]
#21016841 - 12/23/14 12:17 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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KafkasDog said: Give freely or shut the fuck up!
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Revok]
#21016912 - 12/23/14 12:34 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think the "theyre gonna spend it on druga and booze" is just a stupid stereotype judgmental people use. My dad is totally like that, he will assume all scrappy looking people are drug addicts. Not everyone homeless person does drugs and drinks but there of course some that do. I sometimes give a person a dollar or two or some food depending on how they look ya know
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: grower182]
#21016926 - 12/23/14 12:37 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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grower182 said: No, they chose that lifestyle. Why should I give them my hard earned money while they sit around doing nothing for themselves?
i imagine if i had a choice i would of been born rich instead of poor.....
also how do you know they are sitting aroud doing nothing for themselves, do you interrogate em after they ask for change?
life is hard and not everyone lands on their feet.
but keep your money if you want you worked for it, or so you say. just hope you never need a hand up and nobody is around to help.
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Johnny Dont]
#21016938 - 12/23/14 12:40 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah spare change maybe a dollar.
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Revok]
#21016943 - 12/23/14 12:41 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Not all homeless people choose that lifestyle, there are a few chronic/professional homeless people around who thrive on that type of life, but the majority are just regular folks who have had some bad luck.
I used to be homeless myself, and I know there where times all I wanted was a drink and would of course spend the cash on alcohol, but there has been just as many times where I've been v hungry & just wanted a bite to eat, and I spent whatever money on cheap food, not alcohol, so don't think that the money ALWAYS 100% goes towards drugs and alcohol.
Thing is you can manage to eat pretty alright from peoples genourosity, night shelters, going through shop bins, lots of ways, but you will be lucky to find yourself enough to drink (even though most nights (if you can wait for the night-time) you can even scrounge yourself up a drink because people get careless and leave their bottles laying around with drink still inside - Anyway, point is, it's a lot easier to sort yourself something to eat without giving a penny, but you don't often get lucky with finding drinks.
I always give them money nowadays that I'm a better position, I know what it's like. However one point I'd like to make, is it's a lot better when they do some busking for the money instead of just begging, I would always give a busker some money, where I wouldn't give as much to someone just begging 
You would be surprised at how much difference a few dollars could make to someone
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Tcm19277]
#21016998 - 12/23/14 12:56 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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My folks are homeless and I used to be. I've been in a lot of places where you know the money is just going to go to the next junky fix (which I can understand, withdrawal looks like hell) or for crack or something. At the same time, there are tons of people who just need some food or coffee. When life really gets someone down, I can't blame them too much for wanting a drink here and there, especially with this cold weather coming on the way it is.
That being said, I tend not to give money too often because I feel like money can hurt as much as it can help. I usually tend to offer to buy food for people, or when I've got a pack on with clothing, sometimes a good shirt or socks or something. Hell I've even given away beer and weed here and there. From experience, I figure most people who need the money to support themselves are just as happy or grateful if you do that since the money is only a means to an end most of the time.
One time a guy asked me if I could give him any money and I was going to say "I don't have any change on me but I could buy you a coffee or burger or something." He cut me off as soon as I said "I don't have any change" and he yells "I DON'T NEED NO CHANGE, I NEED DOLLARS!" Those dudes are just straight up skeezy
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: lood_dood]
#21017077 - 12/23/14 01:12 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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YOu got to make their day. Fork over a Jackson! That'll get their attention!
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: topdog82]
#21017225 - 12/23/14 01:43 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I don't because I think it exacerbates the problem. It doesn't help them, it doesn't help me. Its a quick fix of self satisfaction with no lasting substance behind it.
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: DieCommie]
#21017252 - 12/23/14 01:51 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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i usually give out money but how much i giv out depends on whether i feel the person truly needs it or not. you can tell sometimes it's just a bunch of kids trying to get high, or just people who seem almost comepltely ungrateful, who seem like they do it 24/7, it's like they are expecting handouts.
i dont even care if it's just someone who wants to buy a beer or something, i'll buy them the beer myself. but i mean i'll go out of my way if i feel the person really needs it to survive.. these are usually the people who hardly ever ask..
what ur dad is doing is good regardless whether the people really need it or not. his heart is in the right place.
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: DieCommie]
#21017262 - 12/23/14 01:53 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Do you give money to homeless people?
Very rarely. Usually I'll toss them a nug or buy them some food if they seem like good people.
Last year I took 2 homeless guys (1 in his 30's, the other in his 50's) to spend a couple weeks in my home so they could try to get their lives figured out a bit.
They were 2 of the most down to earth, loving, and big hearted people I've ever met. They respected my house, never stole one thing, cleaned my house in every possible way, and were forever thankful to have a shower and a bed to sleep on for the time they were here.
I hope I made a difference in their lives.
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: solo dolo]
#21017265 - 12/23/14 01:53 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: Asante]
#21017295 - 12/23/14 02:00 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Usually I'll try and find homeless girls and try to get a blowie in exchange for Taco Bell.
Edited by abltsandwich (12/23/14 02:01 PM)
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: abltsandwich]
#21017322 - 12/23/14 02:07 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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abltsandwich said: Usually I'll try and find homeless girls and try to get a blowie in exchange for Taco Bell.
Right after the Heat won their second title I ended up wasted at some grimey bar on the beach. Ended up bringing a random woman home. We had some good sex, and afterwards I asked where she wanted me to drop her off.
She just gave me directions to an intersection a couple miles away and told me she was homeless. I felt so bad for her but there was nothing I could do to help her at the time as I was staying at a friend's house that night about 20 miles from my home.
Otherwise I would've helped her out a bit like I did for the 2 gentlemen I mentioned in my previous post.
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Re: Do you give money to homeless people? [Re: kr0nik0]
#21017332 - 12/23/14 02:10 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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kr0nik0 said:
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Do you give money to homeless people?
Very rarely. Usually I'll toss them a nug or buy them some food if they seem like good people.
Last year I took 2 homeless guys (1 in his 30's, the other in his 50's) to spend a couple weeks in my home so they could try to get their lives figured out a bit.
They were 2 of the most down to earth, loving, and big hearted people I've ever met. They respected my house, never stole one thing, cleaned my house in every possible way, and were forever thankful to have a shower and a bed to sleep on for the time they were here.
I hope I made a difference in their lives. 

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I take the time to talk to homeless people that ask for money(if im not driving). Most often I will offer to pay for a meal for them. Many of them have their vices. Many are just trying to get back on their feet. I respect the ones that are honest about their intentions. Being homeless has a strong effect on your mental health.
This might sound bad, but I will give cash depending on the person. Most of the homeless here are native inhabitants that had their land taken away from them. It is a real tragedy how America has treated them. I also donate my time on Thanksgiving and Christmas at the homeless shelter. You don't need to give cash to make a difference.
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