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Larz
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Should I grow Namaiko and Enokitake on logs outdoors ?
#21014221 - 12/22/14 08:58 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have the Mycelium running book .. In this book, Paul Stamets says not to grow Namaiko or Enokitake mushrooms unless you can identify the poisonous look a likes which are the Galarina or Conocybe types of mushrooms depending .. He only mentions Galerina as being similar to Namaiko
I have a mushroom identification book, but identification is a very complex process. The book is designed such that you go to one page and then you check for some characteristic of a mushroom you are trying to identify and then that sends you to a different page where you check for another feature or spore print and so on. This is a key identification approach, the book is "Mushrooms of Eastern North America" by Bessette. This is a book Stamets recommended and I live in the Northeast. I have a house in Mass and a camp in Maine and can grow mushrooms at either place.
The book is not geared towards helping me differentiate between Namaiko or Enokitake and these other types and Namaiko and Enokitake would not be in the book at all.
Should I order spawn for Namaiko/Enokitake and worry about identification at some other point ? Should I get a different book, consult some sort of mushroom expert or group ? I intend to be careful, but what is the risk, how hard is identification etc ?
Should I wait and grow some mushrooms of these types and post pictures of them online here ?
Please advise, I am very interested in exploring different kinds of mushrooms that I can cultivate on logs and so on but I want to try to go about it the best way possible. Learning to identify hundreds of different wild mushrooms is probably very time consuming and I am not sure that is the path I want to take either ..
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Re: Should I grow Namaiko and Enokitake on logs outdoors ? [Re: Larz]
#21014350 - 12/22/14 09:28 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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Buy spores and look at them under a microscope and I know a few people on here are cool enough to have you mail them a slide and help you identify it under microscope. Hopefully someone will help you out but I'm guessing examining the spores is gonna be your best bet as to not do so much work. I'm guessing that Stamets is refering that using a wild species to grow more may be risky considering they are very similar but if you buy spores from a reputable source you will be in the clear
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Larz
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Re: Should I grow Namaiko and Enokitake on logs outdoors ? [Re: dpomalia]
#21017303 - 12/23/14 02:02 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's interesting, what is the minimum type of microscope I would need ? Magnification, etc ? I am not sure if I still have my old microscope as I have not used it in 30 years or so.
A microscope is useful in other types of mushroom identification etc ?
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Re: Should I grow Namaiko and Enokitake on logs outdoors ? [Re: Larz]
#21018034 - 12/23/14 05:05 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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if u have the extra cash(its really not even that much), ur best, most simplest, and fastest approach would be to purchase plug spawn or sawdust spawn, and do plugging or totem style or just a ground patch. that way u can start immediately when the spawn arrives, w/o worrying about ID, equipment, microscopes, etc. then if u like growing enough, maybe purchase a pressure cooker, and learn to do it from scratch. just sounds like you are hesitant a bit to dive in head first, so i feel like buying a small bag of spawn is worth it in your case.
its a lot of fun, but it's a hobby dynamic enough to become absorbing and time consuming quickly....in a good way of course...
-------------------- A few thoughts on cultivation MICROBIAL HUSBANDRY!!!! The whole is greater than the sum of its parts
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