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mushpunx
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Re: Ever Clear in a Dehydrator [Re: Funji Guy]
#21053873 - 01/01/15 07:43 PM (9 years, 28 days ago) |
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Yea dude I just use red devil or roebic lye in the plumbing section for opening drains. If it only list sodium hydroxide as ingredient it will most likely work for our purposes.
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PlantStudy
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Amorphouspattern said: I have Acrb and wanted to do an extract with ISO but I think I would be better off to just do an A/B and not waste my resources or time.
Anyone know if there is a way to make iso STB extract by basifying your ISO then separate the Baseing agent used before you evapourate?
Maybe you could basify you ISO do the pulls then do another A/B with the DMT containing ISO to clean it up???????
Can you tell me what Acrb is? Also is the ISO preferred over Everclear due to Everclear containing H2o?
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Re: Ever Clear in a Dehydrator [Re: PlantStudy]
#21055564 - 01/02/15 07:58 AM (9 years, 27 days ago) |
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(1) Acacia confuse root bark. same yields as mimosa MHRB are reported and with a mini A/B extraction on your napatha you can get clean crystals check out DMT nexus
(2)I would use ISO over high proofalcohol unless I wanted to make a tincture because /-the H20 will suck up chlorophyll and other shiz - /- if evaporating it will take much longer and with cactus you can get a moist tar that will not really totally dry but when using ISO your cacti extract could be dry and shiny with crystals in the tar.
[gradient:#C48F39,#]Nothing wrong with using ISO as long as you evap it..it is rubbing alcohol hand sanitizer. just evaporate in ventilation and don't ever drink that shiz.[/gradient]
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Amorphouspattern said: (1) Acacia confuse root bark. same yields as mimosa MHRB are reported and with a mini A/B extraction on your napatha you can get clean crystals check out DMT nexus
(2)I would use ISO over high proofalcohol unless I wanted to make a tincture because /-the H20 will suck up chlorophyll and other shiz - /- if evaporating it will take much longer and with cactus you can get a moist tar that will not really totally dry but when using ISO your cacti extract could be dry and shiny with crystals in the tar.
[gradient:#C48F39,#]Nothing wrong with using ISO as long as you evap it..it is rubbing alcohol hand sanitizer. just evaporate in ventilation and don't ever drink that shiz.[/gradient]
Acrb and mimosa don't yield the same...acrb avg's 1% and half of that weight is NMT whilst mhrb avg's 3% dmt.
Don't use ISO or everclear for these extractions. Only use it for the psilocybin/psilocin. You'll need to do and a/b extraction to get what you are after.
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Re: Ever Clear in a Dehydrator [Re: Kman1898]
#21056476 - 01/02/15 12:08 PM (9 years, 27 days ago) |
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With the price of Mimosa in the US these days I think it more than makes up for the drop in yeild.
As for the yellow crystals , I have gotten them, but a wash with hot naptha washes them white if you pour of the liquid away from the yellow oil alkaloids that sit at the bottom
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Re: Ever Clear in a Dehydrator [Re: mushpunx]
#21056724 - 01/02/15 01:33 PM (9 years, 27 days ago) |
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mushpunx said: With the price of Mimosa in the US these days I think it more than makes up for the drop in yeild.
As for the yellow crystals , I have gotten them, but a wash with hot naptha washes them white if you pour of the liquid away from the yellow oil alkaloids that sit at the bottom
yes this is true but you will lose weight.
also i have to disagree the mhrb i source is only slightly more expensive by weight and as a result yields 3 times the product. but yes if you have a bad source then yes the price in the us has gone up ten fold
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Re: Ever Clear in a Dehydrator [Re: Kman1898]
#21056997 - 01/02/15 03:02 PM (9 years, 27 days ago) |
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Oh totally dude if you can get Mimosa for a good price use that!
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Re: Ever Clear in a Dehydrator [Re: mushpunx]
#21057466 - 01/02/15 05:05 PM (9 years, 27 days ago) |
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I read a 2% of clean white is often seen
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Amorphouspattern said: I read a 2% of clean white is often seen
For which mhrb or acacia?
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Re: Ever Clear in a Dehydrator [Re: Kman1898]
#21058454 - 01/02/15 09:28 PM (9 years, 27 days ago) |
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ACR .
MHRB has less fats but you can clean up ACRB
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Re: Ever Clear in a Dehydrator [Re: Kman1898]
#21059487 - 01/03/15 05:29 AM (9 years, 26 days ago) |
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Kman1898 said:
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Amorphouspattern said: (1) Acacia confuse root bark. same yields as mimosa MHRB are reported and with a mini A/B extraction on your napatha you can get clean crystals check out DMT nexus
(2)I would use ISO over high proofalcohol unless I wanted to make a tincture because /-the H20 will suck up chlorophyll and other shiz - /- if evaporating it will take much longer and with cactus you can get a moist tar that will not really totally dry but when using ISO your cacti extract could be dry and shiny with crystals in the tar.
[gradient:#C48F39,#]Nothing wrong with using ISO as long as you evap it..it is rubbing alcohol hand sanitizer. just evaporate in ventilation and don't ever drink that shiz.[/gradient]
Acrb and mimosa don't yield the same...acrb avg's 1% and half of that weight is NMT whilst mhrb avg's 3% dmt.
Don't use ISO or everclear for these extractions. Only use it for the psilocybin/psilocin. You'll need to do and a/b extraction to get what you are after.
As far as the ISO vs. EC for psilocybin/psilocin extraction goes, if all you had was EC, could you pour it through Epson salt to remove the H2o, then soak it in a closed jar?
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Amorphouspattern said: ACR .
MHRB has less fats but you can clean up ACRB
sure you can clean up acrb but that doesn't change the NMT to DMT. You may get upwards of 2+% total alkaloid but again the avg for DMT fully cleaned up from acrb is 1.15%.
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Root bark of this species was found to contain some %2.58 total alakloid, of which %55.25 was reported as N-methyltryptamine, and %44.75 reported as N,N-dimethyltryptamine. Notes that it has a history of use in Traditional Chinese Medicine for fever, inflammation and for diseases of the blood. Currently the highest specific record of N,N-dimethyltryptamine content from any plant material published ever, about %1.15 total of DMT. ACRB content
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Re: Ever Clear in a Dehydrator [Re: Kman1898]
#21059569 - 01/03/15 06:47 AM (9 years, 26 days ago) |
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Kman1898 said:
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Amorphouspattern said: ACR .
MHRB has less fats but you can clean up ACRB
sure you can clean up acrb but that doesn't change the NMT to DMT. You may get upwards of 2+% total alkaloid but again the avg for DMT fully cleaned up from acrb is 1.15%.
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Root bark of this species was found to contain some %2.58 total alakloid, of which %55.25 was reported as N-methyltryptamine, and %44.75 reported as N,N-dimethyltryptamine. Notes that it has a history of use in Traditional Chinese Medicine for fever, inflammation and for diseases of the blood. Currently the highest specific record of N,N-dimethyltryptamine content from any plant material published ever, about %1.15 total of DMT. ACRB content
Are we talking psilocybin/psilocin extraction or Root bark (acrb) extraction?
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Re: Ever Clear in a Dehydrator [Re: PlantStudy]
#21064098 - 01/03/15 11:25 PM (9 years, 26 days ago) |
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it started with the effectiveness of ISO for extraction in general among other topics that are similar.
I was thinking if I got nice clean ACRB extraction and it was fluffy crystals would I be able to do reform it into a big crystal(s) like one would when cutting meth via using ISO to dissolve and reform whole or making a tinfoil boat and melting it then cooling quickly to reform it into a nice looking crystal(s)
anyone tried this
[im not asking on how to 'cut' DMT]
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