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telling your kids about santa claus?
    #21009279 - 12/21/14 07:43 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

My sister has a 2 year old and she is trying to decide whether or not to tell her daughter about "santa Claus" or just keep the focus of Christmas on family. What would you do?

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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: morrowasted]
    #21009299 - 12/21/14 07:47 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: zZZz]
    #21009312 - 12/21/14 07:49 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

What?

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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #21009320 - 12/21/14 07:51 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

They wont remember anything at that age anyways, but for the sake of answering your question; no, they shouldnt and keep it on christmas.


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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: zZZz]
    #21009321 - 12/21/14 07:51 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

but anyway i probably wouldnt..


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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: morrowasted]
    #21009350 - 12/21/14 07:58 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I would not, nor would I celebrate Christmas, at least not in the fairy tale way it is now.


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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: PLURAL]
    #21010599 - 12/22/14 01:09 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I'm really torn on this one.

On the one hand I really want to see my son's face light up, and the look of being blown away by how amazing Santa is.

At the same time I view Santa as a way to enforce God upon Christians and non-Christians alike through the gluttony and overindulgence of Christmas. I want him to decide about religion on his own. There's literally no point anyone could make that would make me feel differently about it, but it's not supposed to be about me. But I'm also supposed to make informed and proper decisions for him. Like wtf :confused:

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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: morrowasted] * 1
    #21010640 - 12/22/14 01:19 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Tell them the truth, theres enough bullshit in life as it is, they won't need more

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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: nice1returns]
    #21010649 - 12/22/14 01:23 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

It's hard to understand the indecision until you have your own.

It's about protecting them, nurturing them. But all in all it's about being happy, wanting to see them happy. My son's smile makes my day worth it. Just being there to watch him grow is amazing. It's a hard choice to make when you decide to stifle his imagination.

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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: nice1returns]
    #21010655 - 12/22/14 01:26 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

My son believes in him but we don't use it as leverage over him.. I work retail and right now hear a lot of parents using the "santa is watching" bullshit to keep them from acting up in stores. We don't do that.

I found out Santa wasn't real at a much younger age than he was.. (My son is 10, I found out at 6). I was a pretty smart kid, and a nosey one. My grandparents hid some presents including an AmWay truck under the bed, and I later got those gifts addressed from Santa. I put 2 and 2 together and figured it out.

We never really made it a point to teach him about Santa.. It just kinda comes. They learn it from other kids and from tv shows and all kinds of ways. You don't need to teach them, they will just learn. I think it's best this way.

I agree with the world being too full of bullshit, but kids should have that bullshit. Kids should have the chance to be kids before it's too late. Because you start growing up really fast and the real world becomes too much to handle. Let them enjoy the magic and innocence while they can.


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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: Shroomslip]
    #21010685 - 12/22/14 01:38 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

"Kids should be kids before it's too late."

That's what I was thinking. I had an epiphany the other day. I was thinking about 'being a kid again.' Or how some people have that childlike energy about them. Not bad per se, they just are. Then I realized that this isn't anything to do with immaturity, the concept of being childlike as an adult, in reality it means they held on to what makes them happy. They held on to who they are.

It's kind of good to hear that your kid learned it on his own too. I was wondering about that.

I think I do want to do Santa, I just don't want to feel like I'm enforcing any beliefs on him, or feel like I'm not protecting him from something I can reasonably see as harmful on some level. Personally I felt a little betrayed when I found out about santa. I was probably 7 at the time and I just felt like I should have been able to trust them, because they lied to me.. Again.

If I do it I will probably keep it down to one or two things from Santa and that's it. I've seen some parents make most of the presents from Santa. And I definitely won't teach it to him or use it to enforce my own rules.

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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: larry.fisherman]
    #21010704 - 12/22/14 01:45 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

:yesnod::thumbup:

Keep the inner child alive, keep santa.

I change my mind, its a collective thing so you can't really intervien anyway.

I just wouldn't tell them 1 way or the other.  If they specifically asked I'd say something like "you can choose to believe what you want in this world, its best to work out everything for yourself"


In fact I remember realising it myself I thought "that fat fuck wouldn't fit down our chimney" but I wanted the presents so didn't say anything till much later on.  When I did ask it was more a test of my parents to see if they'd lie to me directly.

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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: nice1returns] * 1
    #21010737 - 12/22/14 01:54 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

it was all down hill after santa wasnt real

figured if they lied about that what else

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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: Does] * 3
    #21010772 - 12/22/14 02:13 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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it was all down hill after santa wasnt real

figured if they lied about that what else




Like the tooth fairy, elves, the ickle baby jebus.
Don't lie to your kids and then try to teach them lying is wrong.:shrug:


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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: deucedbi9]
    #21011070 - 12/22/14 06:10 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Why is everyone getting so soft, santa rocked!:peace: He was great in my family, still is, and was a wonderful notion.:heart:

I figured this site would love the idea of building up a false reality for the sake of fun alot more than what i'm reading right now.:sunny: Its too bad. Throw your children a bone and let them have fun and imagine. If they're smart they'l figure what it was all about.

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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: Shortknight]
    #21011092 - 12/22/14 06:27 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Drug experiences = 'false' reality?

Anyways, I suggest going with the 'God Talk' approach.
"Some people believe _____, and some people believe _____."

Of course, this is for children over 2 that can speak and walk/run
proficiently and somewhat make up their own minds about things.

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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: morrowasted]
    #21011110 - 12/22/14 06:37 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I was 6 or 7 years old when I realized Santa Clause wasn't real because of the mistakes of my parents.  I felt really sad over the whole thing because my parents were lying to me.


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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: Shortknight] * 1
    #21011161 - 12/22/14 07:10 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Why is everyone getting so soft, santa rocked!:peace: He was great in my family, still is, and was a wonderful notion.:heart:

I figured this site would love the idea of building up a false reality for the sake of fun alot more than what i'm reading right now.:sunny: Its too bad. Throw your children a bone and let them have fun and imagine. If they're smart they'l figure what it was all about.

Shorty:yinyang:




I'm pretty sure that it was an older brother that told me that "santa claus" would become "santa claws" if you set eyes on him, and he would rip you from your bed if you set eyes on him and throw you in one of his empty sacks.
Hence these words...

"He sees you when you're sleeping
He knows when you're awake
He knows if you've been bad or good
So you better be good for goodness sake!"

...became very real to me and led to a recurring nightmare where 'santa' would sit on a composting pile of bones over the wall of our back garden pulling the "bad" children from his bag and gnawing on their bones. :evil:

The same brother once dragged me back as I was about to step on a thistle and told me that if had I stood on it, it would have clamped onto my foot and eaten me. I believed him at the time, and to this day over 40 years later I still avoid stepping on thistles.:rofl:


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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: deucedbi9] * 2
    #21011164 - 12/22/14 07:12 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)


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Re: telling your kids about santa claus? [Re: SoupSandwich]
    #21011345 - 12/22/14 08:48 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Drug experiences = 'false' reality?




I hope that doesn't go the wrong way. Anything I believe to be true is true to me, it doesn't matter what everyone else believes, I am the center of my own world!:peace: Santa feels real enough to me:sunny:

:cheers:
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