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4-AcO-DET trip report *DELETED*
    #2100986 - 11/13/03 11:26 AM (13 years, 28 days ago)

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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: poke smot!]
    #2101141 - 11/13/03 12:19 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

Warning: STFU if you dont want 4AcO-DET and 4AcO-DIPT to follow AMT and 5MeO-DIPT into schedule I. The DEA is fully aware of the usage of these analogue drugs; and they will be less motivated to action if ppl dont blab about it on the internet.

Some of them, such as DPT, are already old news. But its best not to spread any new news either.


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2101283 - 11/13/03 12:58 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

Fuck that, he's just sharing a trip report. Let the man speak, one trip report is not gonna make the feds criminalize it. If they did that, all they would have to do is mosy on down to erowid, where there are plenty of reports. He's not causing any problems, so leave him alone.

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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: Redstorm]
    #2101310 - 11/13/03 01:07 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

> The DEA is fully aware of the usage of these analogue drugs;

So what is the issue? The DEAs motivation is not dictated by people talking about a drug... if they are aware of it, which you already admit that they are, then they are going to go after it regardless.

> But its best not to spread any new news either

So it would be better to sit in ignorance and twiddle my thumbs, just like the DEA wants, rather than to share my experience with others... I for one will not sit back and let the government take away my right to think and voice my opinion...

I do see where you are coming from, but once the cat is out of the bag...


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: poke smot!]
    #2101568 - 11/13/03 02:04 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

:heart: 4-AcO-DET is my favorite :heart:

IME the visuals didn't get really pronounced until about 30mgs + after that it gets to be one of the most visual chems out there, way more than shrooms.


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: Annapurna1]
    #2101664 - 11/13/03 02:29 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

leave him alone, the beans have been spilt about RC's a long time ago. and besides, IMO the more reports on more substances the better. good report poke smot.


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: Infrared]
    #2103104 - 11/13/03 09:19 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

I'm going to stick up for Annapurna1 as well...
I don't share trip reports on some of my favorite RCs cause I think some of them can't last forever.
Besides, if one is extremely better than most other RCs and a big buzz is created then simple supply/demand and market value economics will drive up the cost. My favorite is already very costly.


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: cyndyl]
    #2103155 - 11/13/03 09:34 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

i stand by my statement. and certain chems cost more because they are harder to synthesize, not because there is a "buzz" around them. dpt is dirt cheap and there is a ton of talk about it.


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: cyndyl]
    #2103377 - 11/13/03 10:27 PM (13 years, 28 days ago)

For everyone saying to keep quiet with rc's what would have happened if everyone keep there mouth shut about LSD or that you can eat certain shrooms or cacti and trip? I bet your glad someone told you about that, and if there wasn't info about rc's from people and erowid I bet you would have never heard of them either. It's pretty selfish not to share info about this kind of stuff but what the fuck do you care right? You know about them so fuck everyone else right? As long as you can get them you could care less... With that mentality why do we have a whole section of forums dedicated to mushroom growing? Why should anyone share how to grow shrooms, they might make spores illegal everywhere... If I have info I will share it and if you think it's wrong I could care less, I would rather have 1000 people experience all the good rc's rather than experience them 1000 times myself, and if it's made illegal so be it, at least alot of people got to share an experience before it happened. All this bullshit about keeping quiet about these chems is just that... bullshit, I would think using psychedelics would have shown that to you but I guess not.


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: John]
    #2103456 - 11/13/03 10:50 PM (13 years, 27 days ago)

very well said man...i too am tired of hearing people say this kind of bullshit...you really think that us talking about these rcs is going to make them illegal faster? come on! they arent stupid (well in this aspect anyway) they KNOW...its not like theres gonna be a fed on here, thinking

"oh wow, i didnt know that that rc could be used like that! we better make it illegal!"

come on man.... :shake: 


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: wrestler_az]
    #4656347 - 09/13/05 07:57 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

whats the sense in having a forum on these things if you can't have a discussion about something without alarming the "authorities"? we might as well tell anyone who posts that just saying "no" is the only answer or info they need. besides,erowid is well established and frequented by the powers that be so sharing an experience isn't going to set off any alarms no matter who may be reading this. keeping our mouths closed is what they want(at least when it comes to sharing the truth about these chems,they like our lips flapping otherwise)the more we spread the truth about psychedelics and the benefits they offer when used properly,especially in contrast to alcohol and hard drugs which offer nothing but enslavement and negative results, the more we will be winning no matter if legalization happens or not.the goal is opening as many minds as possible,not acceptance!free your mind and your ass will follow!if we cant share the things we've learned on these boards you might as well close shop or send us elsewhere!!


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: karmasdad]
    #4656397 - 09/13/05 08:07 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

roar :scaryshroom: :pill: :pill2: :pill:


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: deficitism]
    #4656439 - 09/13/05 08:16 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

There MUST be trip reports for EVERYTHING. Someone has to try a RC for the first time and second time. People want to read this stuff and learn from others. We all know none of us on this board have the balls to be the first to try a new RC. And if someone did, you would tell someone about it, someone would tell someone else, it will leak to the internet. EVERYTHING leaks to the internet. Theres no way around that. But its the best resource we have...

I remember reading a thread this week about a kid that got datura poisoning. Imagine that datura is a very dangerous research chemical at high doses... A kid decides to try it because a little bird told him it will make him trip. Where would he find the info on dosage, effects, hangover, LD50? Trip reports. If there are none he could kill himself. Im just blabbering......

Keep the trip reports coming!!! :protest:


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: deficitism]
    #4656440 - 09/13/05 08:16 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

roar? is that supposed to be a critisism or a joke? i don't care either way i'm just curious about your response to what i posted. i was hoping for something with maybe a little more "substance"(no pun intended)than that-thanks 4 listening


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: karmasdad]
    #4656454 - 09/13/05 08:21 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

thanks- paranoia isn't gonna get us anywhere around here,hyper/cyberspace or elsewhere.knowledge and sharing are the keys to keep any "community" growing rather than being dormant or just some lame 60's nostalgia trip


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: karmasdad]
    #4656494 - 09/13/05 08:31 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

most of us i'm sure are more than aware that despite the RC's that are now scheduled being illegal,acquiring them is still possible(i know,because I do)from a few "foreign" sources with a small amount of searching in the right places! the answers are out there if you want to find them,laws or no laws


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: karmasdad]
    #4656514 - 09/13/05 08:36 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

The roar was not directed to you. My apologies.


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: karmasdad]
    #4656518 - 09/13/05 08:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

:smirk:. lol .  :stoned:


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: Annapurna1]
    #4656520 - 09/13/05 08:38 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

i hope this is an isolated opinion about how we share our information here. if noone told their experiences with these things ignorance about dosages side effects etc.would run rampant more than they do now and the negative results that occur with lack of knowledge would schedule these things a hell of alot faster than a "trip report" ever could!


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Re: 4-AcO-DET trip report [Re: karmasdad]
    #4656558 - 09/13/05 08:48 PM (11 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

karmasdad said:
lack of knowledge would schedule these things a hell of alot faster than a "trip report" ever could!




Very much agreed :thumbup:


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