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spacechildo
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overgrown yes but I can't see anything bad (besides the minor bacteria) in pic 1. pic 2 is fucked, I agree.
could be I'm being fooled by the flash from the camera tho...
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Mad Season
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They both have bacteria in them but I bet if used as spawn it'd go well.
Substrates are supposed to have beneficial microbes that fight off bacteria and invaders.
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stareatclouds
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I've never had my spawn jars have that much cloudy myc on top. It looks like it's 2" above where the grain begins. Maybe it's just a tricky picture.
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Mad Season
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Ah I see. It's just really tomentose. Probably from bacteria or genetic. It's still the same white as the rest of it
Though that doesn't mean it's good because it's white. I just think it looks like myc
Edited by Mad Season (05/26/15 04:31 PM)
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CitizenErased
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I'll probably use them anyway and see what happens. It's all I can do right now.Quote:
Mad Season said: Ooh that's a contamination. Orange blob contamination. I'm too lazy to look it up but you should toss it now. It fucks up fruits and can seriously ruin your future grows
EDIT: Mycogone perniciosa
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13699014/fpart/all/filter/i/vc/1
When you say that it can fuck up fruits, do you mean that the contamination can spread to the fruits? I thought this didn't happen.
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stareatclouds
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Most contams don't harm fruits, they're just dangerous because they sporulate and can hang around, ruining everything. Verticillium, which I'm dealing with now, fucks up the fruits (although they're still edible).
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Mad Season
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Quote:
google said:

I'm growing this on WBS. What would cause such growth?
The strange mycelium growth is like climbing over the pins. When I broke off some of it, pins were still intact underneath.
Idk man would you really eat any of those things? Which is what he has in the tub. I mean they're probably edible I just wouldn't eat it.
Edited by Mad Season (05/26/15 07:08 PM)
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CitizenErased
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Well, here are pics of two of the jars that look to be afflicted in the same way as the tub was. There may be more, but I haven't seen them.


Here's a shot of some other jars from the same batch (14 total), with what I've been describing as matted myc, but with no visible metabolites or bubbles. A lot of them do have water in them.

Now, here are jars from a separate batch of 14 that I'm slightly suspicious of, mostly because there are isolated grains throughout that aren't being colonized, and some of the jars are already pinning regardless.


So 28 total. And I have 14 quarts of coir/verm (properly pasteurized). Maybe another two that couldn't fit on the stove if I cook them tomorrow.
I have ten buckets that each take 2 and a half quarts to hit the 3 inch mark. Should I say fuck it, go heavy on the spawn and make the ten buckets? Or should I spread it out and make 20? Would you risk it? I may not really be able to grow for a while after this and I'd like to make it count. I do have another 14 quarts of spawn colonizing, but I'm worried about them as well because they seem to be doing so a little too rapidly. I'm not entirely sure what the problem is. All of my transfers are done in front of a flowhood and as far as I know my sterile procedure is generally where it needs to be. Must have been fucked from the first inoculation.
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CitizenErased
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Well anyway, I took that wet bubble tub and stuck it in the garage. Here it is on what I guess I would call its second flush, with a third coming in nicely. (May look at first glance like there are more nasties, but those are all pins. The contaminated spots have all dried up). The heat in the garage has helped this tub to beat the odds, I think. There is nothing visibly wrong with these fruits, as far as I can tell.

Current harvest:

This tub is producing three times the amount I've gotten from the other one. Go figure.
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CitizenErased
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Okay, so I ended up pulling 8 oz. dry from that wet bubble tub that I threw into the garage. The other tub was hit heavy with trich after only 2. I now have 16 buckets, 8 of which are pinning. I thought I'd try layering vs mixing this time around, so I layered 15 and mixed 1 (by mistake). The one I mixed colonized dramatically faster. Three days, vs. the 12 it took for the others. However, I thought I may have noticed a spot of wet bubble maybe so I threw it in the garage with the tubs. As of now, there are no visible contaminants and it is pinning just fine. The pins are also maturing faster than they are in the other buckets, I assume due to the higher temps in the garage.
The remaining buckets that were layered colonized not only much slower, but not as completely either. Whereas the one I mixed was a solid blanket of white, the others not so much.

The house grow is in my bedroom, where the temp stays at 68-70. I don't have another room, and it's too hot to go without the A.C. so that's how it has to be. I suspect the temp in the garage is between 80 and 90. I'm wondering if I should throw the rest of the grow that's pinning into the garage so that it matures faster. I cleared some space, set up a table and threw some plastic over it. This garage is by no means clean and there's really not all that much I can do about it.


Even though I have pins, it worries me that these subs aren't completely colonized. Does anyone think the move is too risky? Is this a terrible idea? If the subs were colonized like the one I mixed, I wouldn't be too worried about it, but they're not, so...any thoughts?
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stareatclouds
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Not sure, but I wouldn't blow that fan directly at them, especially with the top completely open.
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TravelAgency
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Right on!
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CitizenErased
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stareatclouds said: Not sure, but I wouldn't blow that fan directly at them, especially with the top completely open.
Eh, that tub's spent anyway. I'm waiting for another 8'th or two to finish up overnight and then it's in the trash.
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stareatclouds
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It'll dry out your future subs doing that, regardless of how done you are with this one, it's just bad practice.
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CitizenErased
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What? Why would it dry out my future subs? What do you mean? I can just move the fan when I put another grow there... Besides, it isn't really pointed directly at the table at all.
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stareatclouds
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Okay.
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