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 orizon
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 Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? 
#2086698 - 11/09/03 02:18 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hi...I have become really interested in this DMT substance. It seems to be a harmless psychadelic like shrooms and acid despite previous beliefs. I have found shrooms pretty easy to grow generally and I want a comparison. How much harder will it be to extract-(sythesize?) DMT from this mystery plant (Im still not sure which one it is and how hard it is to obtain!!!) compared to growing shrooms. Also what holds a higher recreational value? If a friend had a choice between DMT and Shrooms....which would you tell him to choose?
thanks, Orizon
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Madtowntripper
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 Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: orizon]
#2086707 - 11/09/03 02:24 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Lots of plants contain DMT...Phalaris grass is probably the easiest to grow. Legal in the states, as far as I know, and its a grass. Heh. put the seeds on some dirt in a cookie sheet, and voila. I've never done the extraction, so no advice there...
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orizon
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#2086747 - 11/09/03 02:59 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Phalaris grass avaialbe at home depot?
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stefan
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: orizon]
#2086749 - 11/09/03 03:01 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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mimosa hostilis is mostly used for dmt extractions.
look in this thread for extraction methods: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...;o=&fpart=1
it's really hard to compare dmt with shrooms, a dmt trip is short, a shroom trip way longer etc.
I I had the choice for dmt or shrooms I would choose dmt because it's rare and shrooms are not (for me at least  )
in december I'm going to try an extraction, so i hope that goes well.
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Infrared
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: orizon]
#2086760 - 11/09/03 03:12 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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a shroom trip is a little longer and more enjoyable for the novice tryptamine user. growing shrooms and extracting dmt are about equal difficulty, although growing shrooms takes about twice as long. i prefer smoking some dmt to taking shrooms, but most people dont.
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: Infrared]
#2086843 - 11/09/03 04:24 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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for a recreational expirience i would choose shrooms.but i defenatly like dmt better only i would not consider it recreational.
for me atleast the dmt extraction was easier and fun,nothing better than watching dmt crystals magicaly appear on a dish.growing shrooms was a pain for me i got contams all the time.
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orizon
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: buckwheat]
#2086964 - 11/09/03 05:30 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are the chemical ingredients required for extracting DMT hard to obtain? Licenses etc...? Im just quite surprised Ive never really heard much hype of this throughout highschool and my first year of college or really even in the psychadelic scene at all. I've heard more about banana peels then DMT!!?!?
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Infrared
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: orizon]
#2087650 - 11/09/03 09:43 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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there isnt that much hype because not to many people like dmt. like mentioned before it isnt really a recreational drug. it is super intense and only lasts like 20 minutes. most people dont like it but i am one of the crazy few who love it. i reccomend everyone try it though, there is nothing that can compare in this world to a dmt flash. as for supply's for extraction, just go to your local hardware store they should have most of the stuff you need, solvents, murartic acid etc. if you need any more help you can pm me or post it here, talking about dmt never gets old 
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Seuss
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: Infrared]
#2088589 - 11/10/03 04:30 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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> not to many people like dmt
Really? I haven't heard that before. (Not being sarcastic, just surprised.)
> it isnt really a recreational drug
This is very true.
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orizon
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: Seuss]
#2088653 - 11/10/03 05:38 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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SO it kinda falls in the category of the Datura plant that are psychadelic but mostly used as a tool to "contact the spirits" rather than something that you just get fucked up on?
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Seuss
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: orizon]
#2088656 - 11/10/03 05:53 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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> SO it kinda falls in the category of the Datura plant that are psychadelic
Nothing at all even close to Datura. When I say not a recreational drug, I mean that it isn't something a bunch of people would go out and take for a fun time on the town.
> as a tool to "contact the spirits" rather than something that you just get fucked up on?
Contact the spirits... self exploration... etc... exactly.
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MarioNett
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: Seuss]
#2088689 - 11/10/03 06:54 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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DMT is pretty safe, and Datura is not. You probably knew that, but it makes me nervous when people make comparisons like that.
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: Madtowntripper]
#2088725 - 11/10/03 07:21 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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People always talk about how wonderful phalaris grass is, but I have never heard of anybody successfully extracting a usable quantity of DMT from it.
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: MarioNett]
#2088740 - 11/10/03 07:28 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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DMT is not as popular as other drugs because it has a way to protect itself from the people that don't need to be taking it.like your recreational tripper would take dmt and probably think he has died or be scared shitless, i consider that a great experience but most people wont. the dmt experience itself keeps it away from the wrong people.last thing we need is a bunch of kids in the emergency room freaking out on ayahuasca or something. it has been around as long as shrooms, lsd, and mescaline have.its also not as common because those that have it or can make it realize that it should never be a street drug and the experience is not for everyone or is necessarily fun
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orizon
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: buckwheat]
#2089543 - 11/10/03 01:46 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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As long as its a safe psychadelic like cid and shrooms Im down for trying it. I know Datura is dangerous but that is one of those drugs that people end of doin a few times and never do again cause the experience is not recreational...but rather usualy scary (that was my groudns of comarison---not the danger factor). Can I expect a more uncomfortable trip from DMT? I try to stay away from the hard psychadelic like--- AMP-- chemicals like PCP and AMT and thats what I thought DMT originally was.
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Infrared
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: orizon]
#2090099 - 11/10/03 05:15 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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dmt is a natural pyschedelic. it has been used for thousands of years by tribes in the amazon, in the form of ayahuasca. it is probably the safest psychedelic compound out there. but like i mentioned most people that do it get frightened out of their mind by it. it is not a social drug in the least bit, which is what most drug users are looking for. and dmt and datura are completely unrelated compounds, they have no similarities at all. dmt is completely safe and datura is not.
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: Infrared]
#2098932 - 11/12/03 08:30 PM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
DeepBlue42 said:
a shroom trip is a little longer and more enjoyable for the novice tryptamine user. growing shrooms and extracting dmt are about equal difficulty, although growing shrooms takes about twice as long. i prefer smoking some dmt to taking shrooms, but most people dont.
Once you understand growing/extracting you'll realize it's easier to extract DMT. If you think it takes a few weeks to extract you're probly looking at QTs tek, if you know what you're doing it only takes a day or 2, maybe 3. You can pull of an extraction in 1-3 days and have no mess after cleaning, that's safer than having mushroom growing equipment around for months. Also I've never seen someone not like DMT in all of my experience.
The only problem for most people is finding the root-bark. Most places you would think of sell at retail prices, wholesale is what you want. That's all I have to say about that, dont ask me where to get root-bark or I wont reply.
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John
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Hell you can use QTs tek and have crystals in a day if you know what to do you just won't get the full expected yield, which isn't a problem because you can follow the tek after you get your first bit of crystals. That link in your sig is good though. As far as bark I don't see why you would be secertive about it, I really don't care because I get it at a decent price also but I don't see a reason not to lead someone in the right direction if they need help.
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Infrared
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i know, i have extracted dmt a fare share of times(leave it at that)and once you know what your doing it should only take 1-4 days. but for a first timer it is always better to take your time. and i stand by my statement that shrooms appeal to alot more people than dmt does.
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orizon
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Re: Easier to produce...Shrooms Or DMT? [Re: Infrared]
#2100220 - 11/13/03 03:22 AM (20 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well DeepBlue I can tell you like DMT by that pic at the bottom hehe....Once I get some free time I will try and get around to extracting this stuff. I was hoping somebody could ponit me in the right direction of where to find the best plant possible to use for this extraction. Like would a plant nursery carry that stuff? This may seem like a dumb question but can you just eat the damn root? People have said the grass is better than the root or bark on some threads.
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