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Thinking of giving salvia another try, curious to hear experiences from spiritual folks
    #20994752 - 12/18/14 03:32 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

so its been a decade since I last smoked salvia and back then it was just too powerful and weird for me. No other drug has caused me to experience anything even one half as wild as salvia and that includes smoking DMT and injecting large doses of ketamine.

Anyway, after a few intense trips on extract, I became too frightened to smoke salvia anymore, partly because I found the trip could be extremely unconformtable physically and mentally and partly because of the existential questions it raised, like seeing that my whole life was just a sort of dream construct that passed through my spirit.

Back then I was not spiritual and did not know what to make of such a crazy expereince. However, I have spent a lot of time in the past decade getting in touch with God, mostly through Jesus Christ and the Bible but also through Zen Buddhism and youtube teachers like adyashanti and I feel ready to give salvia another try. I am just curious how folks who have been following a spiritual path like salvia.

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Re: Thinking of giving salvia another try, curious to hear experiences from spiritual folks [Re: Deviate]
    #20994886 - 12/18/14 03:57 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Communion with God will add a lot of dimensions to the experience that wouldn't be brought into the mix if a person believes we're just some random one off, live then die and that's it type of an occurrence. 

I wonder if that's why a lot of people have a negative experience.  It's frightening enough in "sally space" when you do have a spiritual foundation to stand on, I can only imagine it being quite the cluster fuck of a mind trip to be in that head space with no spiritual foundation.

Also considering that foundation, you can "jump" further into it, and in different areas the best way I can explain is like...  with that foundation its like being on the ocean floor and pushing off, or the wall of a pool and pushing off, as compared to being mid float trying to push... you know what I mean?  Nothing to push off, you go nowhere...  With a strong spiritual background and "foundation" the meaning amplifies, and you're ability to push off into it deeper are pretty noticeable..  if you know what I'm saying..

That said, salvia still fucks with my head to this day because sometimes it's just a way too much to handle/where did that come from type of weird..


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Re: Thinking of giving salvia another try, curious to hear experiences from spiritual folks [Re: Amanita86]
    #20994936 - 12/18/14 04:08 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Yes, I think I know what you mean. I think I will have to give it a try myself. After reading that in Mexico the plant is regarded by shamans as an incarnation of the virgin Mary my interest was highly peaked. I am now at a point in my life where I am much more able to accept the spiritual truth about my existence, regardless of what it might be, whereas 10 years ago even discovering that my soul could separate from my body, heck, even that I had a soul, was a total shock to me, and because I did not experience the love of God or the truth of Christ on that trip, I was left with a very negative, empty view of existence, where everything seemed quite meaningless. Now, I understand that things don't need to have some special meaning, because the love of God is what makes life feel complete and meaningful, not things or events.

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