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I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! * 30
    #20994748 - 12/19/14 12:31 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

I had what is probably the greatest experience ive ever had today, and it wasn't even my own, i had a couple points of bundelweed DMT saved in the fridge for a while for this very day, not knowing when it may happen

  My buddy coty was driven up here for christmas by his brother yesterday, he is congenitally blind from birth. He was born with a type of disease i cannot pronounce or spell. He is a frequent cannabis smoker.

  When i got up this morning e had a small breakfast of fruit, and then i removed it from the frisge and explained to him what it was, and the process, and that i had a theory....

  His visual cortex is completely intact, but he just doesnt have eyes, sohe should be able to have a dmt experience, he has never had any true psychedelics before today, as the duration of the experiences put him off from it.  My theory was that, never having had the experience of vision , he would not be able to describe what it was that happened, but i would be able to tell if it did based on his reaction.

  So...i convinced hi it was worth the 10 minutes it takes, and convinced him he would benefit fro the experience. and if not, hell its only 10 minutes.

  I helped guide him down to my pond, i set up some lan chairs as it was in the upper 50s today and sunny, felt really nice. i loaded the bowl, gave it to hi and helped hi light it....he took three huge rips, holding each in probably 20 seconds.

Now Coty usually hold his eyes closed, the only time ive ever seen his eyes was when i first met him, he has to actively try to open them because its a movement he almost NEVER does, he does not have the uscle memory for it so it take effort for him.

as soon as he let out the last hit his eyes opened, not just open they SHOT WIDE open, he leaned onto his knees out of the chair, how he could even move i not sure, but he started sobbing, he cried for about 7 minutes...

  As suspected he cannot say anything but one word about the experience, ALL he can say, with sobbing tears, is "so beautiful, so beatuiful, i cant....i dont....its just so beautiful"

This was abut 10 hours ago....hes still asking me if that is what seeing is....

How do i respond to that.....

He cant describe what it is he saw.....but he saw....and hes been blind from birth....

  i dont know where i go from here, but we both feel as if we have uncovered something more profound than the experience itself

i just thought i would leave this here as i have NO IDEA the implications of this, and i have no hope of ever getting an explanation of exactly what he experienced fro him, as he has no means of comparisson or contrast....

also, i wanted to start a discussion about this, sees VERY interesting...


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: thatoneguy1001]
    #20994770 - 12/19/14 12:36 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

That's incredible.


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Shining Cosmos] * 2
    #20994780 - 12/19/14 12:38 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

it is.......so many warm and fuzzies


i cant believe more people havnt thought about this experiment lol


or they have and just dont know someone who was blind from birth

i keep getting teary eyed thinking about it

Coty has had this funky sile on his face ALL DAY

we all know that smile, just cool to know he can know it too


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: thatoneguy1001]
    #20994786 - 12/19/14 12:39 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

That is pretty incredible. I wonder what he saw.....



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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: psilocybeMAN] * 1
    #20994791 - 12/19/14 12:40 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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psilocybeMAN said:
That is pretty incredible. I wonder what he saw.....





bind fro birth, no means of comparing and contrast, all we can do is know it did what it was supposed to, but he lacks the context to describe it, so we will never know exactly unfortunately



my question, is how can a mind, having never had the experience of vision, create vision even if just a mental image? does this not imply there is something deeper going on here?


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~Makes sense while im high :mushroom2:

"You and I are all as much continuous with the physical universe as a wave is continuous with the ocean. The ocean waves, and the universe peoples. What you are doing, is the same thing the entire universe is doing in the place you call here and now, you are something the whole universe is doing, in the same way a single wave is what the entire ocean is doing."

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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: thatoneguy1001]
    #20994795 - 12/19/14 12:41 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

There should definitely be a study conducted for willing blind people to smoke dmt and attempt to report their "visions".


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Shining Cosmos] * 4
    #20994798 - 12/19/14 12:41 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

:ancientaliens:


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Flowing out means far-reaching;
Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly]
    #20994814 - 12/19/14 12:44 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

really, you need someone with a damaged visual cortex, not just damaged eyes to determine IF something more is going on i guess.


but still....mind=blown


he had to ask ME if that was what seeing is, but not knowing whats going on exactly, i cannot answer that question, and the person not knowing if that is what seeing is, puts a hopeless stick in the wheel of the experiment, it comes down at that point to personal context vocabulary and subective experience, which cannot be objectively verified

idk, still cool


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~Makes sense while im high :mushroom2:

"You and I are all as much continuous with the physical universe as a wave is continuous with the ocean. The ocean waves, and the universe peoples. What you are doing, is the same thing the entire universe is doing in the place you call here and now, you are something the whole universe is doing, in the same way a single wave is what the entire ocean is doing."

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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Bill_Oreilly] * 1
    #20994857 - 12/19/14 12:52 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Hmmm...a google search would find plenty of studies
On blind people using lsd,dmt ect...im pretty sure only people who
Had sight to start with see anything and blind from birth
People have audio distortions...


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: wandervogel]
    #20994889 - 12/19/14 12:57 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Very interesting!  You should ask him to draw out his experience;  if he "saw" something he should be able to draw a representation.


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: TrippyDog18] * 2
    #20994910 - 12/19/14 01:02 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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wandervogel said:
Hmmm...a google search would find plenty of studies
On blind people using lsd,dmt ect...im pretty sure only people who
Had sight to start with see anything and blind from birth
People have audio distortions...




Have read these studies too. All of the only percieve audio distortions are thoughts put forward by scientists, none have been implicitly verified, so i decided to do it for myself. And according to the subjective experience of the individual, there is something going on he cannot describe as he has never experienced anything like it..and doesnt even have the context to begin to....sounds like percieving something visualy to me, especially considering his visual ortex is completey intact, his eyes are not

for us the experience is ineffable as well, but in a differnt way then it turned out for him, we can dance around the experience and talk about and around it all day...he cant even put anything together to talk about it other than him begging e to tell him if thats what seeing is...which i cannot answer lol
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Very interesting!  You should ask him to draw out his experience;  if he "saw" something he should be able to draw a representation.



hes blind dude, i doubt he can draw what he saw


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~Makes sense while im high :mushroom2:

"You and I are all as much continuous with the physical universe as a wave is continuous with the ocean. The ocean waves, and the universe peoples. What you are doing, is the same thing the entire universe is doing in the place you call here and now, you are something the whole universe is doing, in the same way a single wave is what the entire ocean is doing."

                                  ~Alan Watts


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: thatoneguy1001]
    #20994922 - 12/19/14 01:05 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Fuckin' trippy man.  Good work.


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: thatoneguy1001] * 7
    #20994941 - 12/19/14 01:09 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

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thatoneguy1001 said:
This was abut 10 hours ago....hes still asking me if that is what seeing is....

How do i respond to that.....




Be honest and tell him that's not how seeing is unless you are on psychedelics and even then we have the same kind of Closed eye visuals. Vision on psychedelics isn't normal vision be sure to tell him that. What I see on a trip and what you see on a trip is never like what we see 100% sober, so the truth is what he wants and needs to know. Tell him you were glad he was able to enjoy the experience the same basic way we were and that's it's very similar experiences for us both!! You should also tell him many trippers do trips in total darkness as i'm sure he'll instantly be able to relate to that and why people enjoy it :mushroom2:

Sounds like he had a very good time, but i'm sure he'd be more upset about his blindness situation if you led him to believe that we're all feeling and seeing awesome shit like that non stop 24/7 when sober lol, which just isn't true. It wouldn't be good for him to hear and think that kind of psychedelic experience is the day to day vision we experience.. The truth is it's an amazing psychedelic and profound experience for us as well him alike. Our minds help us create the imagery with help from the substances.

This is a nice good cheery story, 5 shrooms to you sir :cool:


Edited by psilocybinjunkie (12/19/14 01:17 AM)


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: thatoneguy1001]
    #20994944 - 12/19/14 01:10 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Woah, good for him!

I had read up somewhere about people blind from birth trying lsd and having auditory hallucinations. i wonder if he actually saw something. or if he saw something with his third eye


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #20994967 - 12/19/14 01:14 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Yea that's a pretty good point right there.


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Amanita86] * 1
    #20994982 - 12/19/14 01:16 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.near-death.com/experiences/evidence03.html




Im just going to leave this here:)


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: thatoneguy1001] * 1
    #20994996 - 12/19/14 01:20 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

http://www.researchgate.net/publication/6746446_Blind_man_draws_using_diminution_in_three_dimensions

The blind can most definitely draw their experiences and sometimes even perspective. If he saw visuals in his mind he would be able to transcribe them to some extent.


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: TrippyDog18]
    #20995073 - 12/19/14 01:37 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks for sharing your story! It's funny, I've had a color-blind friend named Cody that I've been wanting to introduce DMT to to see if he'd have any stimulation of colors. I never had the right opportunity, but I suspect it would be a profound experience for him.


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: TrippyDog18] * 1
    #20995089 - 12/19/14 01:39 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Whoa that gave me chills. He's going to see you in a new light forever


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Re: I got someone who was blind from birth to smoke DMT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [Re: Bugler Boy] * 1
    #20995094 - 12/19/14 01:41 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Bugler Boy said:
Whoa that gave me chills. He's going to see you in a new light forever





literally, :lol:


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Being far-reaching, it is said to return.


It's just a shot away..


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