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    #20987143 - 12/16/14 10:27 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Picking up some san pedro's tomorrow. Getting them for $10 a foot and it comes with the pot. I plan on eating the dark green flesh of a 16 inch cutting. Anyone with experience have anything to chime in? Thanks. Comments welcome


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: shortpork]
    #20987677 - 12/17/14 01:17 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

i wonder the same myself.. I have had a few sections growing and they are around 18" most likely gonna keep them growing though


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: spacecadetCID]
    #20987920 - 12/17/14 04:23 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Id wait until they are at least 24" each 6" tip cut for planting 6" stump and 12" mid cut for dinner, but thats a minimum. Id buy some nice thick trunk cuttings before chowing down and not get where you want. A foot of pedro isnt shit if it 1" diameter vs a 3" incher.

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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: 2shoes]
    #20988158 - 12/17/14 07:54 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

San Pedro is notoriously variable in potency. I've brewed tea with up to three feet and had barely any effects. I made tea from a 20 inch cutting that I split with a partner we both went on a ten hour voyage of epic proportions. Good luck, hope you got a potent clone.


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: ShroomDoom] * 1
    #20988377 - 12/17/14 09:12 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Still waiting on this dude to call me back... getting irritated


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: shortpork]
    #20989488 - 12/17/14 01:36 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

If u live in the right area, dont forget to cut the tip off the top and plant it! Then u can grow yer own.

Also, try the mescajuana experience (mescaline then smoke weed at the peak). More info in my signature.

Good luck!


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #20992482 - 12/18/14 12:28 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Oh absolutely got to smoke some weed, of course.

Curious, whats your favorite way to consume this cactus? Mine didnt taste very bad but the foamy, sandy texture did me in. I only consumed ~12 inches and felt nothing. I think theyre weak. Im going to try to make a tea from ~30 inches, evaporate off the water and eat whats left.

Does anyone know at what temperature mescaline and the other alkaloids began to degrade at? I plan on doing this in a slow cooker crock pot type thing.


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: shortpork]
    #20992538 - 12/18/14 01:02 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Good luck
you could dry it all out and do a alcohol iso extract.

I plan on doing the same journey as you are making the tea probably
or alcohol extract.

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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: Amorphouspattern]
    #20995127 - 12/18/14 04:49 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Thanks! The alcohol extraction leaves you with all the alkaloids or ONLY mescaline? I want everything for the full spectrum experience.


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: shortpork]
    #20995293 - 12/18/14 05:26 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

alcohol extractions will leave you with all the actives, aswell as the pigmentation in the cacti's skin which is why all water or ethanol based extractions are green and slimey tar. Another method I prefer if you are looking at avoiding the taste of cacti is powdering the outer flesh and then putting the resulting powder in 00 gel caps, a good moderate trip is about 30grams of dried outer flesh. The only down side to this method is you are consuming about 60 capsules of powder and more than likely will experience constipation the day after the trip, this is the only real negative effect i have had from consuming powdered cacti other then the cacti flavoured burps that result from capsules.


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: newageshaman]
    #20995397 - 12/18/14 05:48 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

https://www.dmt-nexus.me/forum/default.aspx?g=posts&t=22831
Fresh cactus cuttings to mescaline made easy with a pressure cooker. I really enjoyed dreaming about this tek :thumbup:


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #20996325 - 12/18/14 08:46 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I have read that using 99%iso alcohol(or alcohol) with dry cactus will leave you with a dry crystalline substance you can scrape instead of sludge
I haven't done so myself .

What are your thoughts newageshaman

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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: shortpork]
    #20996620 - 12/18/14 09:50 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh absolutely got to smoke some weed, of course.

Curious, whats your favorite way to consume this cactus? Mine didnt taste very bad but the foamy, sandy texture did me in. I only consumed ~12 inches and felt nothing. I think theyre weak. Im going to try to make a tea from ~30 inches, evaporate off the water and eat whats left.

Does anyone know at what temperature mescaline and the other alkaloids began to degrade at? I plan on doing this in a slow cooker crock pot type thing.





Ooops! never answered this. Hope Im not too late.

Mescaline is very hardly. It can handle high temps. Put the Crock pot on High, should be fine. cook all day. Make sure to check the water level, very important. Dont let it go completely dry. And put it outside, your house will STINK of cacti if done inside the house, its very nasty smell.

My favorite way is cacti tea. Its gross, but its also a tradition. Its the way the ancient Peruvians did it, so it makes it more special for the expereience, I believe.

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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: Amorphouspattern]
    #20996645 - 12/18/14 09:54 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I believe ISO will leave you with a cacti tar, if you go the route of an extraction on cactus and are still new to it use 69ron's mescaline acetate extraction tek using foodgrade d-limoene and vinegar. Much easier for a first time chemistry newb and i found it very enjoyable when i first did it.


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: newageshaman]
    #20996706 - 12/18/14 10:07 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I cant take all the "SWIM"ing! Ahhhh! :thumbdown::crankey:

Cool tek thou. How can Acetate be stronger than HCL? i dont know if i buy that....

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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
    #20996730 - 12/18/14 10:13 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I think it's roughly the same potency when purified with an MEK wash, I never did the MEK wash when i did my bridgessi extraction and got a little over 3grams of impure acetate from 82grams cactus. pretty good yield though it wasn't the most potent though that comes down to the fact i decided not to purify it, next time i do an extraction i will to see what the difference is. Will also try to do a pictorial aswell, hopefully soon i will do a somewhat definitive guide to mescaline and mescaline containing cacti :awethumb:


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #20997761 - 12/19/14 06:15 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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I cant take all the "SWIM"ing! Ahhhh! :thumbdown::crankey:

Cool tek thou. How can Acetate be stronger than HCL? i dont know if i buy that....



The molecular weight differences could make one slightly more potent. 

As for iso/ethanol extracts it is possible to end up with a nice flakey green substance but you must filter very well, through coffee filters and maybe a cotton filter in a funnel. If you don't filter well or use lower %alcohol you will end up with sludge.


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: ShroomDoom]
    #21003407 - 12/20/14 02:26 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Try this one if you want to take it a step further than the tar without using any toxic chemicals  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14904860/page/1/fpart/1


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: BigHeart]
    #21004704 - 12/20/14 07:19 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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Try this one if you want to take it a step further than the tar without using any toxic chemicals  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/14904860/page/1/fpart/1



That tek seems like an awful lot of work for a pretty mediocre end product, not that I have ever used this tek myself though making mescaline acetate has a lot less steps and gives you a relatively pure substance (between 40% upto around 90% purity when one goes through the process of an MEK wash). :2cents:


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Re: San Pedro tomorrow! [Re: newageshaman]
    #21005560 - 12/20/14 10:20 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I like it cause it keeps all of the alkaloids and doesn't require toxic chems.  Never actually done the full tek though and wouldn't bother with the taffy step.


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