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RiparianZoneJunky
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Trich ID? The Real Pachanoi?
#20976127 - 12/14/14 04:35 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've been trying to find some genuine "non-PC" Pachanoi, made friends with the owner of a local cactus nursery and he had these in the back. Seem like real pachanoi to me but maybe they're a short spined peruvianus... What do you guys think? This thing is 4-5' long and and 5-6" thick. Beautiful plant either way, but I'm hoping I finally have the real San Pedro.
 
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MrGiraffe

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Re: Trich ID? The Real Pachanoi? [Re: MrGiraffe]
#20976582 - 12/14/14 06:44 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Holy shit,that color green is one that I've never seen in a Trichocereus before,Amazing
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kactus.brand.g said: Holy shit,that color green is one that I've never seen in a Trichocereus before,Amazing
Probably grown in the sun. They tend to go more yellowish in full sun.
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RiparianZoneJunky
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Re: Trich ID? The Real Pachanoi? [Re: ferrel_human]
#20976749 - 12/14/14 07:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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This thing is an effing beast. I don't know if I'll be able to keep it from etiolating here in Oregon, but I'll enjoy looking at it for a while at least. Wherever it was grown it got LOTS of sun.
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newageshaman
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Re: Trich ID? The Real Pachanoi? [Re: ferrel_human]
#20976765 - 12/14/14 07:38 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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gnarly tricho man, that main branch in the first pic looks like it was semi monstrose for a while before continuing it's normal growth. Bit of luck it will revert back to monstrose growth as you continue to grow it out
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RiparianZoneJunky
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Re: Trich ID? The Real Pachanoi? [Re: newageshaman]
#20976997 - 12/14/14 08:32 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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newageshaman said: gnarly tricho man, that main branch in the first pic looks like it was semi monstrose for a while before continuing it's normal growth. Bit of luck it will revert back to monstrose growth as you continue to grow it out 
That would be most excellent, my only fear is that my northern climes will have this thing skinnier than my wrist in a couple of years...
Not that I would butcher a specimen like this, but are non-PC pachs generally assumed to be "potent" in the active alkaloid department?
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Re: Trich ID? The Real Pachanoi? [Re: newageshaman]
#20977001 - 12/14/14 08:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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newageshaman said: gnarly tricho man, that main branch in the first pic looks like it was semi monstrose for a while before continuing it's normal growth. Bit of luck it will revert back to monstrose growth as you continue to grow it out 
I was going to point out the same thing too
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RiparianZoneJunky
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Re: Trich ID? The Real Pachanoi? [Re: cowsRmeat]
#20977019 - 12/14/14 08:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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newageshaman said: gnarly tricho man, that main branch in the first pic looks like it was semi monstrose for a while before continuing it's normal growth. Bit of luck it will revert back to monstrose growth as you continue to grow it out 
I was going to point out the same thing too
Yeah, I had my choice of a few and that growth drew me in. I love the few odd snarl tooth long spines it has. This guy's greenhouse was heaven.
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newageshaman
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newageshaman said: gnarly tricho man, that main branch in the first pic looks like it was semi monstrose for a while before continuing it's normal growth. Bit of luck it will revert back to monstrose growth as you continue to grow it out 
I was going to point out the same thing too
I've only ever seen a few pachanoi monstrose clones before but only pictures . I love how many different trichocereus there are though.
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newageshaman said: gnarly tricho man, that main branch in the first pic looks like it was semi monstrose for a while before continuing it's normal growth. Bit of luck it will revert back to monstrose growth as you continue to grow it out 
Not that I would butcher a specimen like this, but are non-PC pachs generally assumed to be "potent" in the active alkaloid department?
It usually depends on a few different factors as to whether you have a potent clone or not, I got rid of all my PC's after i didn't trip off 2 feet of 9 - 10" thick cacti. Usually a good starting dose is around a foot of 5" thick cacti either bridgesii or non-pc pachanoi, they don't really like talking about dosing or consumption here though so if you want either or make a thread in TPE.
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Re: Trich ID? The Real Pachanoi? [Re: newageshaman]
#20977312 - 12/14/14 09:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thanks for the info, I just like knowing that it is probably potent or at least not a PC, I have plenty of those already and use them for grafting stock, but I wanted something showy for the collection. I have plenty of smaller bridgesii to munch on if I needed to trip, this is now by far my nicest trichocereus and will be left intact.
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Re: Trich ID? The Real Pachanoi? [Re: newageshaman]
#20977985 - 12/15/14 02:36 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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newageshaman said: gnarly tricho man, that main branch in the first pic looks like it was semi monstrose for a while before continuing it's normal growth. Bit of luck it will revert back to monstrose growth as you continue to grow it out 
I find it happens frequently with T. bridgesii, either early or late in the season. Maybe OP's plant is a hybrid of some sort?
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