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2nd BRF - Phase 3 - Success-o!
    #20972460 - 12/13/14 06:49 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

About this thread:

This is my 2nd attempt at BRF.
Also, I am still running my first project.

Link to first project: First Project Log

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SUPPLIES:

* 9x 1/2 Wide Mouths
* Surgical Gloves
* Face Masks
* Alcohol Pads / Wipes
* Pressure Cooker
* Glove box
* BRF Mix + Gypsum
* 1x Cube: PF Classic Syringe

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PHASE 1: SETUP

1 Jars have been cleaned and prepared for BRF Mix.

2 Mix has been distributed into jars.

3 Jars have been covered with single layer of alum foil
  Secured by tight fitting rubber bands.

4 PC'd at 15 PSI for 90 minutes.

5 Sitting over night to cool.

6. Prepared working area with cleaning wipes & lysol disinfectant Spray

6. Sprayed everything, including self with tyvek suit on.

7. Sprayed inside of glove box thoroughly.

8. Took out jars, cleaned, wiped down, put in box, sprayed.

9. Innoc'd each

10. Put away in new home for colonization

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PHASE 2: Colonization

Day 1 jars are Innoc'd - Put away to colonize. Will report back in 2 days if any rapid growth (contam) has occured.

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Edit:  3/3/2015

Look at this...


Edited by Cryptology (03/03/15 11:42 AM)

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #20972918 - 12/13/14 08:38 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

:waitingpatiently:


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: taGyo]
    #20974794 - 12/14/14 10:44 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Hey, Tag, or anyone else...

I am preparing to setup glove box with one side open facing me. I have tyvek coveralls that are dispoable and clean and I've my face masks / gloves ready..

Currently I am sending GF out to get Lysol to spray down work areas and inside box.

So, I grabbed my trick or treat bag from Sporeworks.. and found that one of the 9 syringes appeared to have nothing in it literally, yet it was dark and murky like a thoroughly shaken syringe. Is it possible that this syringe has no spores? I don't even see little stuff floating around... And it's name is Treasure Coast.

Anyways... because these needles are packed so tightly it's impossible to shake them to mix them without loosing the protective seal a tiny bit and draw a little air. I do this without completely remove the cap. I just unscrew it a tiny bit. Is this practice ok? If not how the hell do I mix the spores around?

Note that the syringes that were sent to me were sent with plugs in the actual syringe to keep them sealed. The needles have to be attached when they are needed.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #20974883 - 12/14/14 11:10 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I think a regular still air box would be easier to work with. (not connecting the gloves)

And that syringe has nothing in it, but its dark and murky?

if there is a little bubble of air in them, jst tilt them back and forth so the bubble is going quickly from top to bottom. this is the best way to try and break up those clumps. It might take a little while they can be stuck right together.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: harryskinflap]
    #20974897 - 12/14/14 11:15 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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I think a regular still air box would be easier to work with. (not connecting the gloves)

And that syringe has nothing in it, but its dark and murky?

if there is a little bubble of air in them, jst tilt them back and forth so the bubble is going quickly from top to bottom. this is the best way to try and break up those clumps. It might take a little while they can be stuck right together.

good luck




So drawing in a tiny amount of air is bad? Even with cap 99% still screwed in, just enough to let air in? Then recapped completely?

And the syringe that appears to be empty, but dark, seems like a dud. I am not sure, however.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #20975128 - 12/14/14 12:09 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Log updated. Onto phase 2, colonization. Check original post for details.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #20975182 - 12/14/14 12:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

If you do need to get air in yourself, it is best to draw it in through a flame, just to make sure your not bringing in contams from the air. Ive gotten 7 syringes and they always had a little bit of air in it already.
It looks like your past this step anyways...and that dud one sounds strange, would love to see a pic of it. You might be able to get a replacement if you mention it to the supplier.


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #20975720 - 12/14/14 02:47 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Cryptology said:
Lysol




Use soapy water. Lysol doesn't kill mold.

Quote:

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Is it possible that this syringe has no spores?



Spores are microscopic. You're probably fine. Test it out.

I always shake my needle before attaching the syringe part but if I attach the syringe part and notice I didn't break it up enough I point the needle towards the ceiling and flick my wrist left and right to break up the clumps.

There are billions of spores in there, what you can see with your naked eye is miniscule compared to what you can't.


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: taGyo]
    #20976076 - 12/14/14 04:24 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)



Hey look, its tagyo


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: mra]
    #20976205 - 12/14/14 04:52 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20816720/fpart/30#20816720

:shrug:

Having a hard time figuring out what I should put on this job app. One minute I think I'm white, next I'm middle eastern?


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: taGyo]
    #20976217 - 12/14/14 04:55 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

mra has been banned...don't worry about it:laugh2:


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: taGyo]
    #20976237 - 12/14/14 05:00 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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One minute I think I'm white, next I'm middle eastern?




yeah thats nuts.  cuz by the looks of it id say you were asian.  :blindfury:

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: amphibole]
    #20976956 - 12/14/14 08:23 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

I'll just check them all

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: taGyo]
    #21007705 - 12/21/14 01:52 PM (10 years, 29 days ago)

I'm grey, so I have a hell of a hard time..


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21355670 - 03/03/15 10:13 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)



Check these out. The first is yesterday, number 2 is today. Should I wait for all to fruit full, or cut the ones that have broken veil?

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21355678 - 03/03/15 10:16 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

More FAAEEE :wtfsonic:


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21355702 - 03/03/15 10:22 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Care to elaborate? I do it 5x times a day.. exactly how much spritzing and how much fanning?

For exaple.. I have spray bottle.. that I spray the box internally 30 - 40 x with.. then fanning for 30 to 180 secs.. ???

And.. .some of them are breaking veil... so what is my prerogative?

And how are they looking? This is my first success.. I took 4 of them last night.. the bigger ones and I didn't get much effect. It was mild. Maybe they weren't ready? Maybe I took too little? Maybe they suck? Please tell to me the answers, ... the answers!!!

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21355719 - 03/03/15 10:26 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Care to elaborate? I do it 5x times a day..



Fanning is not a replacement for FAE....you would need to do it several times per hour....

FAE is constant fresh air in between your manual misting/fannings....hence why there should be 1/4" holes every 2" in a grid pattern on all 6 sides of a SGFC.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: PussyFart]
    #21355829 - 03/03/15 10:59 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I do have it like that. I have several hundred holes in the chamber... so should I install a pc fan in their somehwere? If so where? The lid is not solid.. I cut out the middle of the lid to put clear saran wrap....

Lastly, how am I doing?\

Edit.. I just realized they are not 1/4 inch holes.. they are 1/8... fixing now...

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21355997 - 03/03/15 11:50 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

The right size holes will be a big help. You need holes in the lid too in case you don't.


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21356008 - 03/03/15 11:54 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

And in the bottom

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21356033 - 03/03/15 11:59 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Edit.. I just realized they are not 1/4 inch holes.. they are 1/8... fixing now...




Deep breaths, you are doing fine. My first cakes didn't fruit at all haha. :thumbup: Don't forget to make sure the tub is elevated so air can flow freely through the bottom holes too. (Please tell me you put bottom holes in!)


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: urthtown]
    #21356037 - 03/03/15 12:00 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

they are elevated on cups. Though bottom holes are still 1/8.. I need to fix don't i?

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    #21356041 - 03/03/15 12:01 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Yes.


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21356042 - 03/03/15 12:01 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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they are elevated on cups. Though bottom holes are still 1/8.. I need to fix don't i?



:rolleyes:

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there should be 1/4" holes every 2" in a grid pattern on all 6 sides of a SGFC.



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    #21356047 - 03/03/15 12:03 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

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there should be 1/4" holes every 2" in a grid pattern on all 6 sides of a SGFC.







Hahaha how many times have you said those words PF?


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: urthtown]
    #21356050 - 03/03/15 12:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:shrug:

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21356070 - 03/03/15 12:07 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)



are you sure these tiny needle holes are 1/8 of an inch? they dont even seem to be 1/10 of a cm..

1/4" = 0,63 cm. Just making sure that you do it right this time and havent messed up on cm/mm/inches..

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: spacechildo]
    #21356134 - 03/03/15 12:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I fixed them please wait for new pic! Give me 10 mins And I show you all! :smile: Thank you for all your encouragement everyone. I could not have gotten this far without kind individuals like yourselves.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21356335 - 03/03/15 01:04 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Here is the fixed setup.


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21356378 - 03/03/15 01:11 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

they still look small to me :shrug: but pics can lie tho..

and there's some electrical crap going into the fc, get rid of it.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: spacechildo]
    #21356396 - 03/03/15 01:16 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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they still look small to me :shrug: but pics can lie tho..

and there's some electrical crap going into the fc, get rid of it.




It isn't the hole size, it's the spacing. Those aren't 2" on centre.

Oh and what does your lid look like? Is it clear?


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: urthtown]
    #21356424 - 03/03/15 01:18 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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they still look small to me :shrug: but pics can lie tho..

and there's some electrical crap going into the fc, get rid of it.




It isn't the hole size, it's the spacing. Those aren't 2" on centre.

Oh and what does your lid look like? Is it clear?




it does look a bit off, yeah, but I'd be more worried about the size than a perfect grid.
although the right side seems to be quite a bit off (50% or so) (check height vs length)

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: spacechildo]
    #21356429 - 03/03/15 01:20 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

There's nothing electrical going on inside.. just a wire to measure temp. That's it. Otherwise that temp wire leads to a microelectronic that turns on heating or cooling withing .5 C of 26.0 C..


And they are all 1/4 - but I am did a somewhat sloppy job of hole placement. I did my best.. I believe it should be fine, I hope it is, but I could be wrong.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21356455 - 03/03/15 01:27 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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There's nothing electrical going on inside.. just a wire to measure temp. That's it. Otherwise that temp wire leads to a microelectronic that turns on heating or cooling withing .5 C of 26.0 C..





sounds like electrical crap to me :shrug: you should get rid of it.
and is that a heating pad under your jars?

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21356560 - 03/03/15 01:53 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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Here is the fixed setup.






Forget the placement crap for now..when making a new SGFC use a fine sharpie or something to draw out the grid as most do (I didn't but it helps)...for current setup it looks very good and much improvement for the earlier very small holes. The new setup should allow for much more FAE and ease..the air currents will all be correct and RH will be very high from air drawing up through the moist perlite. More FAE with optimum moisture yields larger caps to stems, than when having little FAE where caps can be very minuscule with a ropey like stem that seems lengthy. Good luck.:thumbup:

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: spacechildo]
    #21356623 - 03/03/15 02:10 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I ASSURE you nothing electrical inside the SGFC - There is a seedling heating mat a foot below the actual container.. it's on passive heating at 70 F that allows a little heat to rise when needed. Helps compensate when mushrooms are sprayed for humidity... temp drops heating pack kicks..

I also have an infrared light hitting the wall of the closet to allow the space to be warmer when the SGFC goes below 26C - However light is not directly on the box or pointing towards it....

Beyond all else.. before I did all this wiring and custom heating solutions I was not getting growth at all - house and area of grow is too cold... needed heat, but knew that I'd dry'm out if I used direct heat.. so , I don't. ....


Edit:


How having seen my setup and my shoomies.. should I start cutting off and hope for better yield in next flush? I ask because many of them have dropped their veil.. or should I continue to let them grow for some days? What's next? And when I am ready for next cycle.. do I dunk prior to for 24h?

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21356854 - 03/03/15 03:02 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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There is a seedling heating mat a foot below the actual container.. it's on passive heating at 70 F that allows a little heat to rise when needed. Helps compensate when mushrooms are sprayed for humidity... temp drops heating pack kicks..



None of this makes any sense....you should never want or need to heat a fruiting chamber, and it certainly does not compensate for anything when we mist....that is just silly....heat the room not the FC...heating the FC will rob it of humidity, not give it more.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: PussyFart]
    #21356949 - 03/03/15 03:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:whathesaid:

you create a temperature gradient that sucks moisture away from your substrate. heat the whole room

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21357164 - 03/03/15 04:25 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

There is no way to do that besides pointing a heating lamp at the wall and warming the entire closet... I've since then removed the heating mat. And I check humidity constantly - always at 89% - 95% Even with seed mat a foot below the SGFC - Now only heat lamp pointing at all. I will have to bear with this until spring hits.. otherwise the closet drops to 18c or lower...


Still I have questions.

What should I do - cut off the ones with broken veil (most of them), or wait for all cats to fruit fully?

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21358240 - 03/03/15 08:44 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Harvest as veil breaks and utse.


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21359712 - 03/04/15 07:15 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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There is no way to do that besides pointing a heating lamp at the wall and warming the entire closet... I've since then removed the heating mat. And I check humidity constantly - always at 89% - 95% Even with seed mat a foot below the SGFC - Now only heat lamp pointing at all. I will have to bear with this until spring hits.. otherwise the closet drops to 18c or lower...


Still I have questions.

What should I do - cut off the ones with broken veil (most of them), or wait for all cats to fruit fully?




harvesting is personal preference. there's 100s of pictures and threads about it. try out the advanced options in the search engine. you can search for one post in each thread so you don't get multiple results of the same thread. you can even search for posts with images.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21359776 - 03/04/15 07:38 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

This is how to UTSF (use the search function):



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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21359991 - 03/04/15 08:37 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Oh, so there is no difference when fruits are harvested? Ok.. I will try and search, which I have done, but came up with no conclusive answers.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21360002 - 03/04/15 08:40 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

you harvest them when they mature. easy as that. the veil opens they're mature they only will drop more and more spores everywhere at that point so harvest.

if you want to harvest all at once, or harvest as they mature.
it's not that hard.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21360004 - 03/04/15 08:41 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Lol harvest right before or after the veil breaks. Don't let the caps open all the way and drop spores everywhere making a mess and possibly affecting later flushes.


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21360009 - 03/04/15 08:42 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21360151 - 03/04/15 09:23 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

See, that's what I mean..

I will just harvest them all.. dunk and go for second flush then.. I don't know how to distinguish between flushes unless they all are cut...

See, I wasn't sure.. if I should just cut the ready ones and leave the others.. and if I left the others then more might sprout.. and the flush would never end... that's why I asked.


Btw since I removed the heating matt they grew much thicker over night! Holy cow...


So, I guess it's time to make cuts! Thanks!

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21360160 - 03/04/15 09:25 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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and the flush would never end... that's why I asked.




you wish! :lol:

it wouldnt have mattered any way you did it, harvest mature ones and dont kill babies! :thumbup:

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: spacechildo]
    #21360164 - 03/04/15 09:26 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks again, team! Sorry to noob everything, but I trust you guys and thank you for all the tips (fish>?) !

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21360172 - 03/04/15 09:27 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

It's really up to you...I usually wait until I can harvest everything at once. Sometimes this means some fruits are over mature and others are under. The flushes will be more uniform with limited genetics/isolates of course. IMO it's easier to do this than harvest a few everyday while trying to get a nice 2nd flush. Maybe I'm just lazy, I don't know :lol:


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21360179 - 03/04/15 09:28 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

chances are you wont get distinct flushes until you mess with limited genetic cultures, clones, or isolates. you can chose to harvest all at once when the biggest guy pops or harvest as they mature. I have found that when the biggest mushroom breaks its veil the smaller ones soon open their veils, It's probably a hormone signal.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21360190 - 03/04/15 09:29 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Thanks again! I'm glad I refreshed. :smile:

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21360234 - 03/04/15 09:41 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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chances are you wont get distinct flushes until you mess with limited genetic cultures, clones, or isolates. you can chose to harvest all at once when the biggest guy pops or harvest as they mature. I have found that when the biggest mushroom breaks its veil the smaller ones soon open their veils, It's probably a hormone signal.



You think the less mature fruits use the spores from the mature ones as a signal to catch up?


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21360255 - 03/04/15 09:46 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

You can see this pretty clearly in this GIF I made. The tiny guys just give up on growing and pop their veils right when the big guys go.



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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: urthtown]
    #21360261 - 03/04/15 09:47 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I doubt they use the spores. it's signals in the secondary mycelium network. fruiting bodies are tertiary mycelium.

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: bodhisatta]
    #21360295 - 03/04/15 09:55 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Interesting.


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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: wowimflabbergasted]
    #21360431 - 03/04/15 10:24 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

This all wonderful info, and thank you for the Gif~ I believe I am on the right track. I just consumed ones with the first batch of thin stems - no distinct visuals, but nice warm feeling and altered ego. I believe the thicker ones I am now drying will produce much better results. Thanks again!

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Re: 2nd BRF - Phase 1 - Setup [Re: Cryptology]
    #21360440 - 03/04/15 10:25 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

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