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OfflineUniverse
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Tripping with greif over death of loved one
    #20964490 - 12/11/14 11:05 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

My dad is 90 years old and he has leukemia, heart disease and prostate cancer. The leukemia and heart disease are under control, the prostate cancer is what's taking him down. In the past 2 months he's been in and out of hospital>rehab twice. His cancer is progressing and he's definitely going downhill.

I'm the good son, I take him to all his Dr appointments, I pay all his bills and all that stuff. I call him every day and I visit him a couple times a week, take him grocery shopping, etc..  My sister is a POS. She's MIA most of the time-  she never helps out and he's lucky to get a phone call from her once every week or two. I don't mind because I can't stand her and I'd rather have her out of the picture.


Here's my question -
My mom died a couple years ago, before I got back into psychedelics. Now that I grew my shrooms and I have a stash, I'm wondering about how I'll handle this situation if/when I decide to trip. I've really been itching for a trip - maybe 2 or 3 grams, but I'm afraid of how it will go. Will it help me deal with the situation or will it be depressing and unpleasant? Should I wait until after he dies? Anyone have any experience with psychedelics+death?

When he goes, it won't be traumatic. He's 90 and he had a good run - it's not like a young person who's life has been robbed. But still, he's my dad and I know it will be a heavy situation.

I'd love to get my dad to trip but it's not gonna happen. He was a psychiatrist and he practiced between the late 50's and the mid 90's. I've heard stories about hippies he treated, people who were in trouble with drugs. I've brought up psychedelics many times with him and I'm sure he would not want to do it.

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Re: Tripping with greif over death of loved one [Re: Universe]
    #20964530 - 12/11/14 11:14 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

First im sorry about your father. Studies have shown psilocybin to be very medicinal for accepting death. But imo its not needed just beneficial, if your dad don't want to trip i wouldn't push it, maybe trip by yourself and see if it brings clarity to your situation? But id wait till he passes for that. But like you stated he is 90 years old and lived a good life, in situations like these you have to think positively, even when its hard to do so. God bless.

If i were you id be there as much as i could for him, keep the tripping after his death to reflect on what happened. Be prepared for a painful trip, it won't be easy facing those feelings, but i realize psyches bring those feelings and shove it in your face and make you confront them. Just tread carefully, give it some time after your father passes too, but again save the tripping for after he goes, just be there for him now.

on a side note about the drug addicted hippies, people forget that lots of hippies were heroin junkies as opposed to the drop acid eat shrooms peaceful people.

Edited by lettuceboletus12 (12/11/14 11:19 PM)

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Re: Tripping with greif over death of loved one [Re: Universe]
    #20964822 - 12/12/14 12:36 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Universe said:
Will it help me deal with the situation




Yes, it'll come up and you'll experience whatever you haven't already sorted through.  IME it will only be positive.


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Re: Tripping with greif over death of loved one [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #20965030 - 12/12/14 02:19 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

My wife is going through stage 4 cancer.  I had a really mind blowing LSD trip that has helped me cope immensely.  Might not be fun but, it will definitely get you ready if you are in that mental space.

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Re: Tripping with greif over death of loved one [Re: MikeBearPig]
    #20965669 - 12/12/14 08:21 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I am and have been much in the same boat as you op.I tripped about a month before my mother passed in Feb. and was glad I did. I was left with the firm realization that this is not the end of life...just her physical life...her spirit lives on today.

Now, my pop is going through terminal lung cancer....I will prolly do a moderate dose sometime over the holidays....If you are an open minded person.....go into it with eyes wide open.:sunny::peace:


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Re: Tripping with greif over death of loved one [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #20965949 - 12/12/14 09:43 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I guess it also depends on how experienced you are.

If you're only just coming back to psychedelics after a long break, either take a low dose or wait until after his death, until you feel you're coping.

On the other hand, if you're experienced and quite familiar with where shrooms can take you, I'd say a higher dose might benefit you. IME (and according to what I gather from scientific literature) high doses tend to catapult you directly into blissful experiences instead of making you linger at the psychodynamic level where you face all your issues and difficult feelings. But that is on the express condition that you know how to navigate these states and that you've sorted out some issues before. Such a peak experience can show you the true nature of life and reconcile you with impending death, be it yours or someone else's.

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Re: Tripping with greif over death of loved one [Re: Aldous]
    #20966123 - 12/12/14 10:18 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

sorry for your father. you seem like you do everything you can for him.

therefore, im sure you will learn and have truly great experience tripping as you have nothing to blame yourself.

I have bad trip when I have something about myself to blame.

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Re: Tripping with greif over death of loved one [Re: Thayendanegea]
    #20967352 - 12/12/14 03:39 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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baltimark said:
I am and have been much in the same boat as you op.I tripped about a month before my mother passed in Feb. and was glad I did. I was left with the firm realization that this is not the end of life...just her physical life...her spirit lives on today.

Now, my pop is going through terminal lung cancer....I will prolly do a moderate dose sometime over the holidays....If you are an open minded person.....go into it with eyes wide open.:sunny::peace:





This is what I got out of it too..  We truly are infinite.  I just want to die first, knowing that I will get to see her again after I die just is not enough comfort in the living world sometimes.

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