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Esmash
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Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California)
#20948350 - 12/08/14 04:55 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I found Pan. Cinctulus in my area of California (Yes the spore print is BLACK)
 
I also found Panaeolopsis...and two people told me that Panaeolopsis are merely Panaeolus Cinctulus but Mutated. Is that true?
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Byrain

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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: Esmash]
#20948392 - 12/08/14 05:04 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Panaeolopsis are probably just Panaeolus, but not all of them are P. cinctulus. I'm not sure how many if any at all are really P. cinctulus. There are several related species in that genus that are hard to macroscopically distinguish. P. cinctulus, P. fimicola, P. olivaceus, P. subfirmus (In dung habitats), probably some others.
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Esmash
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: Byrain]
#20951190 - 12/09/14 07:25 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Holy Moley thank you Byrain
That's so fascinating thanks for the help
and here's more

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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: Esmash]
#20951670 - 12/09/14 09:52 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good finds, care if I ask if your in NorCal or SoCal?
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Esmash
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: Civ]
#20954432 - 12/09/14 07:04 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Civ said: Good finds, care if I ask if your in NorCal or SoCal?
NEITHER
CenCal...the Central Valley of California
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Esmash
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: Esmash]
#20962641 - 12/11/14 03:56 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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oh okay Yup....
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leschampignons
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: Byrain]
#20962697 - 12/11/14 04:07 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Byrain said: Panaeolopsis are probably just Panaeolus, but not all of them are P. cinctulus. I'm not sure how many if any at all are really P. cinctulus. There are several related species in that genus that are hard to macroscopically distinguish. P. cinctulus, P. fimicola, P. olivaceus, P. subfirmus (In dung habitats), probably some others.
Why hasn't someone sequenced these (panaelopsis, that is) to find out where they belong? seems like a fair amount of people find them on here.
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Byrain

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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: leschampignons]
#20963013 - 12/11/14 05:06 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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nomadbrad
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: Byrain]
#20963203 - 12/11/14 05:55 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Love this mushroom. Looks like a lib and a cinctulus boned and this was he offspring.
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leschampignons
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: Byrain]
#20963226 - 12/11/14 05:59 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Interesting Byrain, thanks. So it seems like it is closest to P. fimicola?
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leschampignons
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: nomadbrad] 1
#20963228 - 12/11/14 06:00 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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nomadbrad said:
Love this mushroom. Looks like a lib and a cinctulus boned and this was he offspring.
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: leschampignons]
#20964173 - 12/11/14 09:57 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think I found pan fimicola on cow dung once.
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Esmash
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: Ludipro]
#20988057 - 12/17/14 07:01 AM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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nomadbrad said:
Love this mushroom. Looks like a lib and a cinctulus boned and this was he offspring.
LOL YES! That's so true hah
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Ludipro said: I think I found pan fimicola on cow dung once.

Very nice! 
I noticed the Cap color and texture of P. Cinctulus CAN seem a bit different from Foenisecii
Plus sometimes Cinctulus specimens are BIGGER than Foenisecii
 
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: Esmash]
#20990365 - 12/17/14 04:47 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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The frilled cap is why I think it fimicola buy I could be wrong. I've haven't seen any pan like it.
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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus Question (California) [Re: Ludipro]
#20990378 - 12/17/14 04:49 PM (9 years, 4 months ago) |
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P. papilionaceus
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