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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Tomandjerry58]
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: psyconaught]
#20947079 - 12/08/14 11:27 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I am. My body's reaction indicates whether what I'm doing to it has a positive or negative effect. Working out is a meme of the dominator culture that wouldn't exist without it.
Euphies right, i was giving you the benefit of the doubt hoping you weren't trolling. But god damn you're really calling exercise patriarchal now?
Working out is unnatural exercise and people only do it as a consequence of the dominator culture. It would be matriarchal if that were the culture that exists, but it isn't. I do all the exercise I feel like doing.
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Alyssa]
#20947095 - 12/08/14 11:31 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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HAHAHA I actually laughed out loud! This girl and/or guy...
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Euphie]
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right?! Apparently lifting things up and putting them down is unnatural
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: psyconaught]
#20947123 - 12/08/14 11:40 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Euphie said: HAHAHA I actually laughed out loud! This girl and/or guy... 
right?! Apparently lifting things up and putting them down is unnatural
I didn't say that, I said working out due to the reason people do it.
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Euphie]
#20947137 - 12/08/14 11:42 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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You realize that the clitoris takes up a percentage of the vagina, right?
The clitoral gland that you are so fond of is just a part of the whole.
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Alyssa]
#20947140 - 12/08/14 11:43 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Euphie said: HAHAHA I actually laughed out loud! This girl and/or guy... 
right?! Apparently lifting things up and putting them down is unnatural
I didn't say that, I said working out due to the reason people do it.
You have one of the most arrogant moral high grounds i've ever witnessed if you're not trolling. You claim to know what is and isn't legitimate sexual stimulation for all women, NOW you're claiming knowledge of why everyone works out
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Alyssa]
#20947180 - 12/08/14 11:51 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Euphie said: HAHAHA I actually laughed out loud! This girl and/or guy... 
right?! Apparently lifting things up and putting them down is unnatural
I didn't say that, I said working out due to the reason people do it.
Yeah god forbid people want to be healthy that's a terrible reason. All the people I have trained have said health as their main reason so far. If you aren't trolling you are one of the most unintelligent people I have ever spoken too.
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Euphie]
#20947187 - 12/08/14 11:53 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well to be fair Alyssa is right to an extent. I mean the only reason i workout is so i can beat the shit out of women, children, and animals more easily!!
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: psyconaught]
#20947197 - 12/08/14 11:56 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ohh bb why didn't you just say so

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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Euphie]
#20947228 - 12/08/14 12:05 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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This thread.
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Euphie]
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Ohh bb why didn't you just say so


you should have told me earlier you're into the kinky stuff
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: psyconaught] 1
#20949364 - 12/08/14 08:11 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alyssa is troll or just lacks intelligence. This is probably one of the most absurd threads I have read on the shroomery.
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Alyssa] 1
#20949654 - 12/08/14 09:14 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll admit, I feel a little dumber for reading this thread. The question posed was "why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual?"--implying that any recreational penetrative sex is non-consensual (i.e., rape). People have answered the question in spades--the reason recreational penetrative sex isn't rape is because most people think it's fun and consent to it. The OP's "evidence" to support the claim is that physiologically, what produces the most sexual pleasure for women is the clitoris, which is not located in the vaginal canal (or, obviously, in the rectum), so any stimulation of these non-clitoral areas can't *really* feel good, women only think it feels good because The Patriarchy has brainwashed them into thinking that it feels good.
And many people here have said this is bullshit not only because it's ridiculous on its face, but because it's under the pretext that other people's experiences aren't valid and that the OP knows more about how others "really feel" (or should feel) than they do.
Here is the reason this is so frustrating: you don't get to tell others how they feel about things. It's actually kind of offensive, imo, because as a woman, I am often told all day and all night that the way I feel about things or the manner in which I process my experiences is wrong or not real. Remember the catcalling video? And all the ladies saying, "Yah, this is rude, it's not a 'compliment', we don't like it, stop doing this," and a significant number of men were telling us all, essentially, that we just didn't understand in our little female brains what was really going on--that the men are actually complimenting women, we were the ones outta line for not seeing that. You're telling us we can't trust our own experiences because you know better than we do about our bodies and ourselves.
So this smacks heavily of the "male experience trump card" as the geek feminism wiki calls it--except it's flipping it on its head. You're using your understanding of biology to buttress your own experiences and you're calling them the normative standard. Then you're using that as a yardstick to dismiss other women's experiences. I don't think you're intentionally concern-trolling, but you're concern-trolling.
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: lowbrow]
#20949828 - 12/08/14 09:45 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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lowbrow said: You realize that the clitoris takes up a percentage of the vagina, right?
The clitoral gland that you are so fond of is just a part of the whole.
I see where you're coming from, but there's no reason to believe that the clitoral tissue in the anterior wall of the vagina is more sensitive than the rest of the clitoris.
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Euphie]
#20949842 - 12/08/14 09:48 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Euphie said: HAHAHA I actually laughed out loud! This girl and/or guy... 
right?! Apparently lifting things up and putting them down is unnatural
I didn't say that, I said working out due to the reason people do it.
Yeah god forbid people want to be healthy that's a terrible reason. All the people I have trained have said health as their main reason so far. If you aren't trolling you are one of the most unintelligent people I have ever spoken too.
I didn't say what the reason was, I'm obviously referring to the misconceptions people have about what health consists of.
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: BittrBuffalo] 1
#20949891 - 12/08/14 10:01 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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BittrBuffalo said: I'll admit, I feel a little dumber for reading this thread. The question posed was "why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual?"--implying that any recreational penetrative sex is non-consensual (i.e., rape). People have answered the question in spades--the reason recreational penetrative sex isn't rape is because most people think it's fun and consent to it. The OP's "evidence" to support the claim is that physiologically, what produces the most sexual pleasure for women is the clitoris, which is not located in the vaginal canal (or, obviously, in the rectum), so any stimulation of these non-clitoral areas can't *really* feel good, women only think it feels good because The Patriarchy has brainwashed them into thinking that it feels good.
And many people here have said this is bullshit not only because it's ridiculous on its face, but because it's under the pretext that other people's experiences aren't valid and that the OP knows more about how others "really feel" (or should feel) than they do.
Here is the reason this is so frustrating: you don't get to tell others how they feel about things. It's actually kind of offensive, imo, because as a woman, I am often told all day and all night that the way I feel about things or the manner in which I process my experiences is wrong or not real. Remember the catcalling video? And all the ladies saying, "Yah, this is rude, it's not a 'compliment', we don't like it, stop doing this," and a significant number of men were telling us all, essentially, that we just didn't understand in our little female brains what was really going on--that the men are actually complimenting women, we were the ones outta line for not seeing that. You're telling us we can't trust our own experiences because you know better than we do about our bodies and ourselves.
So this smacks heavily of the "male experience trump card" as the geek feminism wiki calls it--except it's flipping it on its head. You're using your understanding of biology to buttress your own experiences and you're calling them the normative standard. Then you're using that as a yardstick to dismiss other women's experiences. I don't think you're intentionally concern-trolling, but you're concern-trolling.

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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Alyssa] 1
#20949905 - 12/08/14 10:03 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alyssa said: I'm obviously referring to the misconceptions people have about what health consists of.
That's cute, coming from the one who pathologizes every deviation from her own preferences.
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: psyconaught] 1
#20949979 - 12/08/14 10:20 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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psyconaught said: Well to be fair Alyssa is right to an extent. I mean the only reason i workout is so i can beat the shit out of women, children, and animals more easily!! 
I man! Man born to destroy and hurt everything! PENIS CAUSES MY EVIL!! 
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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: gref]
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