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d0urd3n
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Does this WBS look too wet to salvage?
#20943481 - 12/07/14 05:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Somehow I managed to forget to throw foil over these before PCing 
What do you guys think. I didn't simmer, either. I was trying PussyFart's method. Let them dry on newspaper for 30 mins. They were pretty wet when I threw them in there, but that's what PF described. I have never used WBS, I've always used rye berries. They aren't super stuck together, but they definitely don't roll around like dry BBs...
Thanks.

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Josh.0
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20943537 - 12/07/14 05:43 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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first problem i see is that they are too full..im sure they dont roll around,there's no room to. 
whats your filter choice?
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d0urd3n
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: Josh.0]
#20943561 - 12/07/14 05:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I know they are too full that not really what I am concerned about. Its not a big deal to dump out on my SAB floor before I noc them up. EZ felt.
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20943631 - 12/07/14 06:02 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I would say way too wet, but give it a try anyways.
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Josh.0
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20943650 - 12/07/14 06:04 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I've just had to do the same with a batch of my RGS,dump some out.  they do seem wetter than i would like,never forgot the foil before so idk. was that pic taken right after PCing, like still hott to the touch? they might be ok if you plan G2G? might just avoid bacteria problems VS adding a liquid inoculum
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d0urd3n
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: Josh.0]
#20943670 - 12/07/14 06:07 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah PC finished about 4-5 hours ago. I read after making this post that RR said as long as there isn't any water pooling they should be alright. So I think I'll still noc them up unless someone else says otherwise. Oyster culture is in syringe form, but I will only add 1 cc or less anyways, and the rest will be agar wedges.
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20943702 - 12/07/14 06:11 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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How long out of the PC was that pic taken?
My experience with EZ_felt is that you need foil.
I wrote a tek after PF convinced me to try No Cook WBS . I tried it several times before I wrote the tek. I address the wetness issue toward the end. It's a solid method.
When doing WBS, I now do Fooman's WBS Tek though. The no-cooking, the rinsing, and the wetness are are identical in both teks.
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micelio
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20943765 - 12/07/14 06:21 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said: Somehow I managed to forget to throw foil over these before PCing 
What do you guys think. I didn't simmer, either. I was trying PussyFart's method. Let them dry on newspaper for 30 mins. They were pretty wet when I threw them in there, but that's what PF described. I have never used WBS, I've always used rye berries. They aren't super stuck together, but they definitely don't roll around like dry BBs...
Thanks.
You could add sterilize vermiculite to the jars to soak up the water...
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d0urd3n
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20943825 - 12/07/14 06:28 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi said: How long out of the PC was that pic taken?
My experience with EZ_felt is that you need foil.
I wrote a tek after PF convinced me to try No Cook WBS . I tried it several times before I wrote the tek. I address the wetness issue toward the end. It's a solid method.
When doing WBS, I now do Fooman's WBS Tek though. The no-cooking, the rinsing, and the wetness are are identical in both teks.
The pictures were taken 4-5 hours after the PC run. I think it would have worked better with a strainer, or if I would have swapped out newspaper. I've looked for one of those collanders or whatever they are called at like 5 different stores and I just can't find any. Maybe I should go to a kitchen store or something. The newspaper got pretty soaked and I think that kept it from drying out further. Its a shame because now I am not sure if it was my method, or if it was because I forgot to use foil. The the felt doesn't feel too soaked though, mostly just damp. One jar was full of dowel spawn and there isn't any pooling water in it or anything, so I think it was my method. 
Thanks spitball
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20943863 - 12/07/14 06:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you read through both of those teks, you'll see they both mention looking too wet until the WBS has time to absorb the excess water. This is often a source of confusion for people who are used to boiling rye berries and the idea takes a little faith and getting used to. Let then sit overnight and see what they look like.
In my opinion, a strainer is a must have for doing grains. I used to lay them out on a towel, but I don't anymore.
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d0urd3n
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20943876 - 12/07/14 06:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright I will see what they look like in the morning. Thanks Spitball, much appreciated. I will keep trying to find a good strainer. Millet is just so small.
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20943897 - 12/07/14 06:41 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, that's why I don't like WBS, it's too messy.
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d0urd3n
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20943940 - 12/07/14 06:47 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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SpitballJedi said: Yeah, that's why I don't like WBS, it's too messy.
Yeah I feel you. I used a screen to strain it which worked well. I was thinking about putting screen on a wood frame to fit over my sink for them to dry. That should work even better than strainers because of the surface area I figure. Rye is definitely easier though. I think my rye has been too dry which is why I have had relatively slow colonization times, so I thought I would mess around with WBS. Maybe I'll look harder and try to find a good source for rye. Buying it from the local health food store is just too pricey.
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20944487 - 12/07/14 08:13 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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The thing about the no soak and/or no cook style is that you don't want to dry the grains. They only need to drain for 30 mins or so. They should be wet on the outside as you load them in to the jars.
I just discovered a seed and feed store yesterday that has all kinds of grains for super cheep. It's not organic, but it's cheep. I paid $11 bucks for 50 pounds of wheat. They have rye for $30. If you live near N.GA, I can PM you the place.
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d0urd3n
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: SpitballJedi]
#20944805 - 12/07/14 09:01 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright that makes sense. They already have absorbed quite a bit of moisture since my OP. I think they will be just fine. It just sketched me out being so different from boiling rye .
I live nowhere near GA thanks though. I will definitely hit up my local feed stores though. I have heard of people getting great deals on bags of pure millet/rye/wheat. Just need to do some shoppin around. 11 bucks for 50 pounds of wheat sounds like an amazing deal. My WBS from Home Depot had maggots and little moths in it. 
Thanks for the help man, really appreciate it.
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20944966 - 12/07/14 09:31 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Does this WBS look too wet to salvage? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20945119 - 12/07/14 10:01 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said: Alright I will see what they look like in the morning. Thanks Spitball, much appreciated. I will keep trying to find a good strainer. Millet is just so small.
It may take several days (roughly 3) to absorb excess moisture.
99 cent stores in my area carry mesh plate covers that are basically stainless steel mesh strainers. Walmart also carries mesh strainers.
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