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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: sun_spots]
    #20941057 - 12/07/14 07:48 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

sigh...my personal life is leeching through my posts again.  I'm just going to delete everything I just wrote in this most recent post.

I didn't mean to be abrasive sun spots

I wish you and your newborn and your donor(:evil:) the best and most wonderful things


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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Masked]
    #20941082 - 12/07/14 08:04 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

"donor", LOL.  That's taking things a little far, man.  I know there's a lot of bitterness surrounding this subject for you, though, and it's understandable, so I'm just gonna drop it.  Thanks for the well wishes.  :hug:


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shut ur fucking mouth. before a penis is are be enters

LordSenate said:
Cheese poop... Who gives a fuck gotta eat lots of cheese.

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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: sun_spots]
    #20941084 - 12/07/14 08:05 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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birth experiences are extremely personal




so let me get this straight...I'm sorry, I can't let this go.

A man is expected to..

1) court
2) support
3) plant the seed for said baby(without us there is no baby remember)
4) nurture, support and be there for you through 9 months of hormonal bullshit
5) only to be essentially told, "fuck off, this is my birth, my baby, I do as I please.  This is private and you have nothing to do with it"
6) see (2) on the list but multiply by 2

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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: sun_spots]
    #20941101 - 12/07/14 08:14 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

edit: off topic


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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Masked]
    #20941104 - 12/07/14 08:16 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Masked said:
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birth experiences are extremely personal




so let me get this straight...I'm sorry, I can't let this go.

A man is expected to..

1) court
2) support
3) plant the seed for said baby(without us there is no baby remember)
4) nurture, support and be there for you through 9 months of hormonal bullshit
5) only to be essentially told, "fuck off, this is my birth, my baby, I do as I please.  This is private and you have nothing to do with it"
6) see (2) on the list but multiply by 2

?




No, just be respectful of the fact that you're not the one giving birth.  You said earlier that you could express your feelings/opinions about it but that it's ultimately her decision how she wants to handle the birth.  I think that's precisely correct. 

As far as birth plans go, ime hospitals are willing to follow the birth plan you lay out.  You may have to be very vocal about it because sometimes the staff don't communicate your wishes to each other, or they're just being humans and forget a detail you consider important.  But as long as they don't pose a health risk to you or your baby, your wishes can usually be carried out without issue.  Again, that's just my experience; everyone's experience is different.


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shut ur fucking mouth. before a penis is are be enters

LordSenate said:
Cheese poop... Who gives a fuck gotta eat lots of cheese.

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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Masked]
    #20941112 - 12/07/14 08:19 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Edit: If you've deleted it, I'm not gonna quote it.

I'm sorry dude.  She sounds like a terrible person.  That Marilyn quote is true to an extent, but no one should have to put up with the abuse you endured.


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ShiVersblood said:
shut ur fucking mouth. before a penis is are be enters

LordSenate said:
Cheese poop... Who gives a fuck gotta eat lots of cheese.

Edited by sun_spots (12/07/14 08:35 AM)

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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: sun_spots]
    #20941122 - 12/07/14 08:23 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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As far as birth plans go, ime hospitals are willing to follow the birth plan you lay out.  You may have to be very vocal about it because sometimes the staff don't communicate your wishes to each other, or they're just being humans and forget a detail you consider important.  But as long as they don't pose a health risk to you or your baby, your wishes can usually be carried out without issue




classic textbook.  What they told us.

I'm glad yours was carried out.  I was pretty vocal.  To the point of being escorted out of the hospital by security.  Didn't matter.

They fucked us right up the ass without lube, as far as honouring birth plans go.


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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: sun_spots]
    #20941130 - 12/07/14 08:27 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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That Marilyn quote is true to an extent,




I used to really believe it.  I now venomously hate it.

right now, I feel like I fucking DESERVE someone at their best.  I shouldn't have to endure them at their worst to get the best.  Fuck that shit.  I need to have some self respect.  I put up with the worst better than any man will.  I know that she will never reach the 5 year mark with someone ever again.

I found out her affair was sleeping with other women and told her about it trying to save her from falling on her face with a slimball.  She was thankful.  Told me all the stuff "he said" was a lie.  That she wasn't looking for a relationship.  2 days later, was on pof looking for a relationship.  she's such a pathological liar.

one month after I saw her on there, she got mad I couldn't take the kids for an extra night that's not normally mine.  Why? because she wants to get some dick.  in her tantrum, she decided it was a good time to tell me she's seeing someone and that he's really nice

That was 2 days ago.

She just can't be alone though I'm realizing.

And now here I am, filling this topic up with 10,000 plus words about my wounds.

I'm sorry. 

I'll shut up now

I've really steered this troll topic off the rails...

:derail:

sorry again folks :sad:


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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Masked]
    #20941152 - 12/07/14 08:36 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Meh, it was a troll thread anyway.  I doubt anybody's sad about it.


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ShiVersblood said:
shut ur fucking mouth. before a penis is are be enters

LordSenate said:
Cheese poop... Who gives a fuck gotta eat lots of cheese.

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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: sun_spots] * 1
    #20941167 - 12/07/14 08:39 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

It's probably all my fault anyway...

if only I would have rubbed that damn clitoris instead of penetrating that va jay jay deep!


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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Masked]
    #20941188 - 12/07/14 08:43 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

did they chop his foreskin without consent or something?  I would freak the fuck out if they mutilated my kid like that

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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Masked]
    #20941213 - 12/07/14 08:49 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah WTF is wrong with you? :lolsy:


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shut ur fucking mouth. before a penis is are be enters

LordSenate said:
Cheese poop... Who gives a fuck gotta eat lots of cheese.

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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Distorted Vision]
    #20941623 - 12/07/14 11:00 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I didn't think anyone here was a psychiatrist, that's why I was saying we probably shouldn't start making diagnoses. I'd think a psychiatrist wouldn't make a diagnosis over the Internet after a couple of posts anyway. Maybe she does have some sort of trauma, but we don't know that and conjecturing about it is unproductive and kind of dickish. :shrug:


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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: thelanzii]
    #20941659 - 12/07/14 11:10 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Nemmies said:
It is how I was born how my three brothers were born, how my niece and nephew were born and I hope if I have a kid to have it carried out the exact same way, hopefully with the same midwife. 
I am allowed to share my beliefs with my partner, but it is her choice at the end of the day.  I think the pain and natural birth process leads to a greater love for the creation.  This is just me though, and I do not exactly come from mainstream roots.  My placenta was frozen in our freezer for 9 years haha




:lolwut:

You're a dude? Or someone who wouldn't be giving birth? Holy shit, not your choice. :lol:


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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: Alyssa]
    #20941729 - 12/07/14 11:29 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Deeply rooted cultural taboos around female sexuality, bombardment with media that glamorizes male-dominated sexuality, the male-dominated paradigm being the only one presented by parents, schools and medical institutions and reinforced through social pressure and the suppression of sex education in general in favor of the patriarchal concept of the family are what I see as the main factors in the persistence of recreational penetrative sex.



Just quoting this for the little gem this sentence is.

First I was like :wtf:
Then I was all :lol:
And then I thought :goodluckwiththat2:

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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: koraks]
    #20941748 - 12/07/14 11:34 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Deeply rooted cultural taboos around female sexuality, bombardment with media that glamorizes male-dominated sexuality, the male-dominated paradigm being the only one presented by parents, schools and medical institutions and reinforced through social pressure and the suppression of sex education in general in favor of the patriarchal concept of the family are what I see as the main factors in the persistence of recreational penetrative sex.



this whole sentence is just buzzwords. It reminds me of this :lol:


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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: thelanzii]
    #20941850 - 12/07/14 12:03 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Nemmies said:
It is how I was born how my three brothers were born, how my niece and nephew were born and I hope if I have a kid to have it carried out the exact same way, hopefully with the same midwife. 




Yeah. My mom had natural kids too. What they don't tell you (but what my mom told me), is that your vagina rips open to your asshole and you can't shit for like 2 weeks.

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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: psyconaught]
    #20942261 - 12/07/14 01:37 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I see what the OP is saying, sort of--basically that it's a man's world, despite what we all might want to tell ourselves. But women do have brains and free will, and there's also a biological aspect to fucking. Not every bit of ourselves is social conditioning.

It's partially a Nature vs. Nurture argument, under the pretense that not only is every person a tabula rasa at birth and 100% of what we do is the product of our environment, but that men control everything in the whole universe, even our thoughts. This is obviously ridiculous and patently false, but also completely logically incongruous both with the basic premise of feminism (women are people, too--with thoughts, feelings, ideas, and critical thinking skills) and with itself. If there's no amount of biology involved in influencing our lives, how on earth would a male-dominanted world evolve? Because they say so and women just blindly said "ok"? Women are physically smaller than men in general--"because I punch harder" has always been the shaper of the social climate and method of enforcement throughout the ages. "I'm bigger than you so I'm the boss," is a subconscious animal thing, to suggest that men control everything in the universe just because they wanna at everyone else's expense because it's fun implies that all men are sociopaths. That's a pretty hateful notion. Men are people, too, with thoughts, feelings, ideas, and critical thinking skills.

So, yeah. The "all penetrative recreational sex is rape" argument (I've actually heard it before, but I thought it was satire) is misandry. A lot of men overuse that word and apply it to things that simply don't focus 100% on men, but that really makes people not take it seriously when it's actually true. It's not on the "just as bad as the KKK" level because the KKK actually uses violence, but this is a sentiment I would suggest the OP not espouse because it doesn't take reality into consideration and is pretty damn fucked up.


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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #20942599 - 12/07/14 02:44 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Ah, i see. Well be careful, that can be a very touchy subject. I'm not going to jump to the conclusion that's the case



It isn't.


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Re: Why is non-procreative vaginal or anal sex ever consensual? [Re: BittrBuffalo]
    #20942600 - 12/07/14 02:44 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not a psychiatrist, just like helping people with deep issues. It does make me look like a dick. Maybe some feelings are hurt, yes okay. They will forget hurt feelings fast. If it gave them a revelation and changed their life for the better, it will last forever. I am one of those guys that are brute honest for the better good.

I don't call people out like this in front of others in real life, but I have done this sort of thing in a private conversation. And I'm right most the time. Because of this they now have one person to feel comfortable in front of. They open up and all the fake Shit is gone instantly. I love the ugly truth, and the few hidden things in each persons life shape them more than they realize.


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