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Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques.
    #19325825 - 12/25/13 04:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

First time growing cyans, should I do Peat Moss or Cactus Mix with verm?Also I grew my cyans on rye seeds, when they are colonized I will mix it with manure, How much manure do I add?! And how deep should the new substrate be when I place it in fruiting? Do I add casing right away as well, or wait a certain amount of days?


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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #19325833 - 12/25/13 04:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Cactus mix is basically peat moss with sand and artificial nutrients. Some brands have tiny clay balls or pumice or some similar material. Peat moss is a horrible material IME, it repels water, while coco coir absorbs it readily.
Casing layer is added after the substrate has colonized completely.


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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #19325842 - 12/25/13 04:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I use peat/verm
1:2 spawn to poo
2inch depth
1/4 inch casing
Fruit as soon as its applied
Never used cactus mix  so I don't know
I also use hydrated lime or cc in my casing mix
Stop misting when pins form an I use a syring to water around the fruits after about an inch
Wet feet dry head
Take prints in your fc
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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: Tangich]
    #19325882 - 12/25/13 05:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Tangich said:
Cactus mix is basically peat moss with sand and artificial nutrients. Some brands have tiny clay balls or pumice or some similar material. Peat moss is a horrible material IME, it repels water, while coco coir absorbs it readily.
Casing layer is added after the substrate has colonized completely.



I will admit when I used coir n verm casings it worked great but I've never had a repelling problem with 50/50


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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: cronicr]
    #19325899 - 12/25/13 05:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I tried it again several days ago in the form of a 'seed starter mix' to plant some pepper seeds, the f*#$ing water stayed on the top of the soil for half an hour, before I got too annoyed and threw it away.
It has to be hydrated separately, with warm water, and a lot of squeezing and mixing.


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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: Tangich]
    #19325957 - 12/25/13 05:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

whaT do u mean cronicr by 1:2 spawn to poo...twice the amount of poo when compared to the rye seed colonized jars?


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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #19325966 - 12/25/13 05:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Stop misting when pins form an I use a syring to water around the fruits after about an inch
-When fruits are 1 inch u water them around with syringe?

Wet feet dry head?

whats and FC?


50/50 verm and peat moss yeah?
I'm not ganna worry abou any PH levels so do u sugges I still go with Peat Moss or cacti mix?


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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #19325983 - 12/25/13 05:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yes but you can easily do 1:1 or even up to 1:4
Yes misting pins can cause them to abort so I wait till there at least an inch if I water at all
Fc is fruiting chamber, tiny caps are hard to print but they won't dry up if you do it where they fruit
Wet feet dry head is just a way of saying they don't like to be misted directly like cubes so we water the sub instead


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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: cronicr]
    #19326128 - 12/25/13 06:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Beautiful! how much longer should I expect the process to take when I do 1:2 compared to 1:1?


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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #19326153 - 12/25/13 06:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Mix evenly and its not much at all, I find pans to be fairly quick colonizers


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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: cronicr]
    #19326773 - 12/25/13 10:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: TheLoopIs]
    #20769775 - 10/29/14 10:03 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

My first time with Pans too - I spawned hpoo cakes to trays and cased with pasteurized cactus mix - myc is poking though about 30 % so popped them into a SGFC @ ~78F and 90-100% humidity. Hoping to see some pins form in the next couple of days.

Grow #1 - Experimental trays (see pics) (Pan Cyans, Peurto Rican, Golden Teacher)

Here are some pics of 4 tray in my SGFC.
Bottom right tray - Golden Teacher grown in horse-poo and cased with seedling compost
Bottom left tray - Pan Cyans grown in horse-poo and cased with cacti compost
Top right tray - Pan Cyans grown in horse-poo and brown rice flour and cased with cacti compost
Top left tray - Peurto Ricans grown in horse-poo and cased with cacti compost
Experimenting with pasteurized seed raising and cacti compost as a casing layer for the first time on all trays - apparently already PH adjusted etc. Also experimenting with different spawn depths and ingredients.
Main goal is to get some Pan Cyan and Peurto Rican prints out of it (not to mentions some killer shrooms).

The Pan Cyan and Peurto Ricans were spores over 7 years old that have been months reanimating/germinating in liquid culture medium. All spawn was created using wild bird seed inoculated with the various liquid cultures.

Grow #2 - Mono Tub (see pics) - Bulk Golden teacher
Hpoo/verm/choir/gypsum substrate spawned with 2 liters of wild bird seed colonized with GT liquid culture.

Check out the monotub pics - looks like an alien landscape - zoom in for awesome visuals :-)



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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: shroomseeker69]
    #20769787 - 10/29/14 10:05 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

try putting it right into fruitng once you apply a thin casing layer next time, pans are quick to gobble up a casing layer, looks good though:thumbup:


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Re: Pan Cyan casing-Peat Moss or Cactus Mix?+ few more ques. [Re: shroomseeker69]
    #20929893 - 12/04/14 09:48 PM (6 years, 6 months ago)

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shroomseeker69 said:
My first time with Pans too - I spawned hpoo cakes to trays and cased with pasteurized cactus mix - myc is poking though about 30 % so popped them into a SGFC @ ~78F and 90-100% humidity. Hoping to see some pins form in the next couple of days.

Grow #1 - Experimental trays (see pics) (Pan Cyans, Peurto Rican, Golden Teacher)

Here are some pics of 4 tray in my SGFC.
Bottom right tray - Golden Teacher grown in horse-poo and cased with seedling compost
Bottom left tray - Pan Cyans grown in horse-poo and cased with cacti compost
Top right tray - Pan Cyans grown in horse-poo and brown rice flour and cased with cacti compost
Top left tray - Peurto Ricans grown in horse-poo and cased with cacti compost
Experimenting with pasteurized seed raising and cacti compost as a casing layer for the first time on all trays - apparently already PH adjusted etc. Also experimenting with different spawn depths and ingredients.
Main goal is to get some Pan Cyan and Peurto Rican prints out of it (not to mentions some killer shrooms).

The Pan Cyan and Peurto Ricans were spores over 7 years old that have been months reanimating/germinating in liquid culture medium. All spawn was created using wild bird seed inoculated with the various liquid cultures.

Grow #2 - Mono Tub (see pics) - Bulk Golden teacher
Hpoo/verm/choir/gypsum substrate spawned with 2 liters of wild bird seed colonized with GT liquid culture.

Check out the monotub pics - looks like an alien landscape - zoom in for awesome visuals :-)






Which pan spawn/sub combo produced, preformed best?


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