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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23455076 - 07/19/16 05:57 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Here's a flash from the past


GMO Crops Fail Again–This Time Its Bt Corn

http://www.realfoodhouston.com/2011/12/02/gmo-crops-fail-again-this-time-its-bt-corn/

Monsanto’s response to the potential problem is first to deny any scientific confirmation of resistance.  It recommends rotating corn crops with soybeans or switching to another Monsanto GM corn called SmartStax, which has two types of Bt proteins engineered into it.  Monsanto does admit one problem with SmartStax–if the double Bt corn is planted in fields where rootworms have already developed resistance, it probably won’t work.  There are other problems with SmartStax–early harvests are showing less yield than lower priced seed.

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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: sweeper54]
    #23465681 - 07/22/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

The Ministry of Health yesterday admitted some genetically modified foods may be harmful. Minister Beth Mugo said all GM foods being imported must be tested then labeled for consumers to make informed choices. "Studies have shown that consumption of GMO food products, while some may be completely safe, can also under some circumstances cause allergies. Toxicity and nutritional changes in GMO foods must also be keenly monitored," she said yesterday. http://allafrica.com/stories/201107150031.html



Scientists must ask corporations for permission before publishing independent research on genetically modified crops. That restriction must end  http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-seed-companies-control-gm-crop-research/


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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23472230 - 07/24/16 12:27 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23472258 - 07/24/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

DOCTORS CONFIRM FIRST HUMAN DEATH OFFICIALLY CAUSED BY GMOS


http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/doctors-confirm-first-human-death-officially-caused-by-gmos/




The lie that the corporations has created floating out on the internet.

However, World News Daily Report is one of a number of fake news outlets known for spreading marginally plausible but completely fabricated claims to be shared via Facebook and Twitter, including the story linked above. The site's disclaimer page states:  http://www.snopes.com/media/notnews/gmodeath.asp

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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Douglas Howard] * 2
    #23472273 - 07/24/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

If you know the story is false, why do you use it?  The website you link has the following disclaimer:

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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Enlil]
    #23472630 - 07/24/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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If you know the story is false, why do you use it?  The website you link has the following disclaimer:

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Because what has happened to this guy, that it exactly has happened to me, but I lived and he died. But I am not allergic to any seafood like he was. If I never had that experience and live, that I would not had never known the truth. Hands on experiences is the best way to learn.

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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23472645 - 07/24/16 03:28 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

Lol, sure you did.


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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Enlil]
    #23472698 - 07/24/16 03:53 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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Lol, sure you did.




Well, the woman in the previous video has experienced as well. But I Had a lot of doctors that were on duty that night scared during one of my episodes.

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    #23472785 - 07/24/16 04:26 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

I've no doubt that you need doctors.  It has nothing to do with gmo food, though.


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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Enlil]
    #23472936 - 07/24/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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I've no doubt that you need doctors.  It has nothing to do with gmo food, though.




Well, the doctors couldn't figured out why my blood pressure was staying critically low that they said that I suppose to have been dead or in comatose. I remembered that my diaphragm had paralyzed, that I could not exhale or inhale. Just imagine I am very athletic, can run for miles without getting tired. But when i was eating gmo's, that I cannot even jog for a half a block and start feeling faint; but now after going on an gmo restricted diet that I can jog over ten miles and still go to work without feeling tiresome. But before I led to believe that it is a part of aging. But i remember that my parents and grandparents and their friends were very active and doing things that most old people cannot do in these days. But now I see why.

  I know that y'all trolls are worrying about that will you all will be having a job tomorrow since a lot of supposedly kept secret that you all suppose to be keep covered that are being unveiled.

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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23473509 - 07/24/16 08:24 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

The biggest issue with GMO is while you get the clean gene snippet that does what you want it to, the DNA lattice also acts sort of like a computer script. If the gene is put in, it will alter the code similar to adding a snippet to a computer script, but without the exception handlers and debugging. It does not end well in most cases.

In a nutshell in addition to getting the desired expressed phenotype, you also get other things like expressed proteins that do not exist in nature. While most of these are processed in the gut and denatured, some are not and make it to the bloodstream and wreak havoc by making your immune system go WTF? and causing intracellular machinery to go haywire. We all know where this leads to- CANCER!

Even worse, the glyphosate molecule is basically a sugar on one end and an organophosphate on the other with a amine in the middle. Guess where it would stick? It would bind to glucose receptor sites on cells in a way that jams them sort of like a wrong key stuck in a lock would. Your body would not detect this error, and assume instead you need more sugar when you really don't. This would cause diabetes since your body is saying you need more sugar, but the sugar cannot go in because the sites where it is transported are blocked by the glyphosate. The binding would be irreversable also so the only course of treatment that would be truly effective is to speed up cell turnover and remove the glyphosate source.

Currently, GMO's are great in the lab for making custom purified complex organic chemicals, but if the intent is to make something directly consumable like food they need to be debugged just like beta tested computer programs.


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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Eywa_devotee] * 1
    #23474119 - 07/24/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 8 months ago)

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In a nutshell in addition to getting the desired expressed phenotype, you also get other things like expressed proteins that do not exist in nature. While most of these are processed in the gut and denatured, some are not and make it to the bloodstream and wreak havoc by making your immune system go WTF? and causing intracellular machinery to go haywire. We all know where this leads to- CANCER!





Any evidence for any of this? Yes, ectopically expressing genes in an organism can produce off target effects, but those are highly unlikely to be novel proteins. And even if they were, I don't see any reason why those proteins would more readily enter the bloodstream than any other proteins. If anything, non-native proteins are more likely to misfold and be degraded within the organism. So if you can provide a source to back this up, it would be helpful.

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Even worse, the glyphosate molecule is basically a sugar on one end and an organophosphate on the other with a amine in the middle. Guess where it would stick? It would bind to glucose receptor sites on cells in a way that jams them sort of like a wrong key stuck in a lock would. Your body would not detect this error, and assume instead you need more sugar when you really don't. This would cause diabetes since your body is saying you need more sugar, but the sugar cannot go in because the sites where it is transported are blocked by the glyphosate. The binding would be irreversable also so the only course of treatment that would be truly effective is to speed up cell turnover and remove the glyphosate source.





Once again, can you provide any evidence that glyphosate irreversibly binds glucose receptors?

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Currently, GMO's are great in the lab for making custom purified complex organic chemicals, but if the intent is to make something directly consumable like food they need to be debugged just like beta tested computer programs.




GMOs have been extensively studied for decades and there is no evidence of any negative effects on human health.


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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Eywa_devotee]
    #23474186 - 07/25/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 8 months ago)

When Prince Charles claimed thousands of Indian farmers were killing themselves after using GM crops, he was branded a scaremonger. In fact, as this chilling dispatch reveals, it's even WORSE than he feared.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1082559/The-GM-genocide-Thousands-Indian-farmers-committing-suicide-using-genetically-modified-crops.html#ixzz4FOrgxStr
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    #23478645 - 07/26/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

But the comments by the Prince of Wales were supported by environmental groups including Friends of the Earth, who said he had hit the nail on the head about the damaging false solution that GM crops present.

Prince Charles, who started an organic food brand 18 years ago, argued in an interview with the Daily Telegraph that “clever genetic engineering” by gigantic corporations would cause the biggest disaster environmentally of all time.

“If they think this is the way to go... we will end up with millions of small farmers all over the world being driven off their land into unsustainable, unmanageable, degraded and dysfunctional conurbations of unmentionable awfulness,” he said However, Deputy Creed said people are living in an age where food security is emerging as a real political issue.

“Advances in the study of bio-technology cannot be ignored as a potential solution to the food security issue, and must be explored openly and comprehensively before any conclusion may be reached.

“For an individual as high profile as Prince Charles to scaremonger in this manner is unhelpful to the GM debate,” he said.

Friends of the Earth campaign director Mike Childs said GM crops will not solve the food crisis. http://www.irishexaminer.com/business/agri-business/creed-hits-out-at-prince-charles-comments-on-gm-disaster-69987.html

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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23496734 - 07/31/16 07:22 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)




First Lady Michelle Obama's daughters attend Sidwell Friends, and their meals include hot lunches that are prepared every day fresh-from-scratch. The company that caters the food, Meriwether-Godsey, uses chefs to prepare the food on-site - from scratch - with local and organic foods where possible. http://www.cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/obama-girls-enjoy-best-school-lunch-america-public-schoolers-lament-lets


Both Romney and Obama Eat Organic While Pushing GMOs for Others http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/both-romney-and-obama-eat-organic-while-pushing-gmos-for-others/

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Re: This is why we need GMO labeling [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23497229 - 07/31/16 10:26 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

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First Lady Michelle Obama's daughters attend Sidwell Friends, and their meals include hot lunches that are prepared every day fresh-from-scratch. The company that caters the food, Meriwether-Godsey, uses chefs to prepare the food on-site - from scratch - with local and organic foods where possible. http://www.cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/obama-girls-enjoy-best-school-lunch-america-public-schoolers-lament-lets


Both Romney and Obama Eat Organic While Pushing GMOs for Others http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/both-romney-and-obama-eat-organic-while-pushing-gmos-for-others/




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Of course the rich elites aren't eating GMO's, sending their kids to public school, participating in Obamacare or social security. Obama even ended the school voucher program in DC, giving poor black children even less school choice.

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    #23497350 - 07/31/16 11:57 PM (7 years, 7 months ago)

The reason why everyone needs to vote for Trump is to stop corporations from doing what they pleases to do. Trump totally agrees with Putin about the Gmo's aren't any good. That is why him and Putin are getting along. Putin has left John Kerry waiting for three hours before he decided to let him come and see him, and which that means that they were friends before the meeting. And all of this has been taken place under the Obama's administration.
And so Putin does have some faults, but they only uses these fault as an excuse to tell the public why we are not friends with Russia anymore. If any country does not like their gmo's, then they become a enemy of the states. Like the Saudi, they are doing a lot of things that are inhumane, but they are considered good, because they eat what is put in their mouth and keeps their mouth shut about it. But if they start to open their mouth, we will expose everything that the Saudi are doing over there and they will become our enemies as well.



Saudi Arabia approves GM food imports http://www.scidev.net/global/gm/news/saudi-arabia-approves-gm-food-imports.html


According to a breaking study published in the journal, Applied Biochemistry and Biotechnology, StarLink™ maize made by Aventis CropScience and later bought out by Bayer has infiltrated numerous Saudi Arabian crops.

StarLink™ is a controversial GMO corn of the Bt variety which utilizes Cry9C proteins as a way to kill caterpillars and ‘protect’ corn crops. The problem is that while the Cry proteins were made to destroy stomach and liver cells in insects, these proteins have also been shown to cause damage in livestock. Concerns are that these health issues will most certainly travel up the food chain, and harm humans as well, and multiple studies are now showing this to be true. http://naturalsociety.com/illegal-recalled-gmo-corn-contaminates-saudi-arabian-crops/





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