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time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth
    #20917977 - 12/02/14 03:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Wbs spawned to coir and verm I have ropelike Myc crawling up the sides and Myc is poking through my dry verm layer one big spot as well teeny tiny pins in one area

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: zebraman]
    #20917993 - 12/02/14 03:53 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

That blob looks like trichoderma in it's early stages when is white, but i'm not sure. The correct time to fruit is when the substrate reach full colonization.

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: zebraman]
    #20917996 - 12/02/14 03:54 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

that's fucked. trash can TEK

PS. dry verm barrier is for PF cakes

there's nothing rhizomorphic there and rhizomorphic doesn't necessarily mean good and healthy. rhizomorphic = just something mycelium does. it's really an over emphasized term especially when scouring outdated info from 2000 or earlier.

if you have a layer of verm on a bulk substrate that's a casing layer and it shouldn't be dry.

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20918017 - 12/02/14 03:58 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

dry verm? :facepalm:

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: Mr. Alien]
    #20918148 - 12/02/14 04:22 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)


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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: zebraman]
    #20918158 - 12/02/14 04:25 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Look like trichinae to anyone else? Ive had it before and it turned green pretty quickly this has been white for a while

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: zebraman]
    #20918170 - 12/02/14 04:27 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

yea that don't look good :foreheadslap:


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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: tokeweed420]
    #20918268 - 12/02/14 04:47 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

If it's been there for a few days and hasn't sporulated/turned green, it's probably psilocybe mycelium. Also notice the yellowish exudate, in my experience, trichoderma does not do this..

BUT that bulbous mycelial growth does look like a symptom of bacterial contamination.


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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: fungusapien]
    #20918280 - 12/02/14 04:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

It's fucked :shrug:

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: fungusapien]
    #20918299 - 12/02/14 04:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Thats what I was thinking I thought that yellow secretion was just Myc piss

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: zebraman]
    #20918315 - 12/02/14 04:57 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Trash. Better luck next time


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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: zebraman]
    #20918328 - 12/02/14 04:59 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Yeah. If it doesn't turn green, then it's probably a response to bacteria. You can let it run its course if that's the case. Bacteria won't contaminate your grow area, so no real rush to throw it out...and the fungus we treasure will often still produce a flush in those conditions. so I say give it some more time, but if you see any green, it's over.


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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: fungusapien]
    #20918353 - 12/02/14 05:04 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Should I introduce light and fresh air?

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: zebraman]
    #20918373 - 12/02/14 05:07 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Hard to say. I'd say wait a few more days to see what happens with that suspicious spot...It's difficult to tell if it has reached 100% colonization because you added a dry verm layer -- which is not really appropriate for this set up. First of all, a dry verm layer is simply used as a barrier to contamination with PF style cakes. Secondly, P. cubensis does not require a casing layer..and thirdly, if you were to decide to use a casing layer any way, you want to use a mix of coir/verm, peat/verm/lime, or something along those lines.


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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: fungusapien]
    #20918390 - 12/02/14 05:11 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

This is the first time I used any layer in top I know its not for this setup
Etc etc I just wanted to try it as a contaminate barrier, I figured straight coir would colonize and defeat the purpose I know wrong

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: zebraman]
    #20918428 - 12/02/14 05:19 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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This is the first time I used any layer in top I know its not for this setup
Etc etc I just wanted to try it as a contaminate barrier, I figured straight coir would colonize and defeat the purpose I know wrong




Fruiting isn't sterile so a contamination barrier does absolutely nothing.


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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: TheMustardTiger]
    #20919157 - 12/02/14 07:28 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

that and mycelium doesn't piss. it excretes metabolites in response to thermal stress or to fight of bactera

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20919164 - 12/02/14 07:29 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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that and mycelium doesn't piss. it excretes metabolites in response to thermal stress or to fight of bactera




Or when it's had too much beer.


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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20919175 - 12/02/14 07:31 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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that and mycelium doesn't piss. it excretes metabolites in response to thermal stress or to fight of bactera




Also to break down the nutrients before it eats them.

Edit: OP that is a mess. I would pitch that as was already said. Do some research and follow some proven teks.

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20919187 - 12/02/14 07:33 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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that and mycelium doesn't piss. it excretes metabolites in response to thermal stress or to fight of bactera




Also to break down the nutrients before it eats them.




I believe the two are different. The yellowish secretion is an anti-biotic whereas the clear secretions, sometimes not visible at all, are digestive enzymes that break down nutrients and prepare them for absorption.


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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: TheMustardTiger]
    #20919220 - 12/02/14 07:39 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I agree but both are metabolites. You should see the colors different species especially woodlovers produce. Deep reds and oranges are not unheard of.

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20919266 - 12/02/14 07:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Agreed. Technically, the digestive process is the primary metabolic action, and the antibiotic would be secondary. I was just making sure we were differentiating between the two. I see a lot of noobs talking about them as if they are one secretion that performs two function.


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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: TheMustardTiger]
    #20919317 - 12/02/14 07:52 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

reishi makes all sorts of metabolites when eating substrate. but for cubes I have never once seen colored metabolites on healthy substrate.

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20919331 - 12/02/14 07:54 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Different species would have evolved to secrete different 'blends' if you will depending on preferred substrate so naturally there will be variance.


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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20919380 - 12/02/14 08:02 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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reishi makes all sorts of metabolites when eating substrate. but for cubes I have never once seen colored metabolites on healthy substrate.




Depends on the substrate. I never see tabs in my jars, almost never on coir, but on straw or poo substrates tabs are pretty common.

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Re: time to fruit? rhizomorphic growth [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #20919392 - 12/02/14 08:04 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

touche, I've only used coir

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