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jerseyian
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Sclerotia
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K guys n girls. When someone grows a sclerotia producing strain like P. Mexicana or P. Galindoi all that has to be done is let the jars sit for several months. Correct? HAVE to grow at least one tray of fruits...
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BUK
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Apparently they produce sclerotia within substrate while fruiting, so better fruiters like some of the Mexicana strains might be more profitably put straight into bulk and cased. Galindoi seems like the ideal to just leave in jars.
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Re: Sclerotia [Re: BUK]
#20915596 - 12/02/14 04:01 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok good to know and thank you for your help. I will Have prints in several months. A LOt of the folks on here have been SO cool and helpful I would love to give some prints
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best bet would be to let stones grow in the jars for a few months....then spawn to bulk....your tub will probably contam before you get stones if you spawn first....
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jboredone said: best bet would be to let stones grow in the jars for a few months....then spawn to bulk....your tub will probably contam before you get stones if you spawn first....
So it is still viable spawn after you pick the stones out?
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jboredone
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jboredone said: best bet would be to let stones grow in the jars for a few months....then spawn to bulk....your tub will probably contam before you get stones if you spawn first....
So it is still viable spawn after you pick the stones out?
pretty sure it is...
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Thats fuckin cool. I think the fruits are pretty.
I know you're supposed to use spawn right at 100% but this is an exception maybe?
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Better post that flush. I love Sclerotia threads.
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jerseyian
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so why would I use old sclerot grain if its gonnna get Moldy? Not being smart just heard it is bad stuff. Someone said it is still viable after many months though...
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Edited by jerseyian (12/03/14 01:14 AM)
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Re: Sclerotia [Re: taGyo]
#20920901 - 12/03/14 01:07 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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jerseyian
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Yes im sure it is, having little better than knowledge. Shrmry is allright with me. Learned.
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jboredone said: best bet would be to let stones grow in the jars for a few months....then spawn to bulk....your tub will probably contam before you get stones if you spawn first....
So it is still viable spawn after you pick the stones out?
pretty sure it is...
You sure? That would be cool.
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jerseyian said: so why would I use old sclerot grain if its gonnna get Moldy? Not being smart just heard it is bad stuff. Someone said it is still viable after many months though...
It's gonna mold before you get stones in a tub if you spawn at 100%...dont think a tub is gonna last months...however if you let the jars sit for a few months the stones will form in the safety of the jar...then spawn to a tub and get fruits...and i'm sure this has been talked about dozens of times if you just use the search....
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For my taste I just bulk/case jalisco immediately, any sclerotia being a bonus, but leave galindoi in jars; I've yet to bother even fruiting them as it's apparently a pain. I guess if I had mexicana/A I might do both.
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OK, that's how its done then hugh? Thank you very much, that's the very first kind im going to grow when I set up my new area when I move. Please remind me to send you a print bro
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Re: Sclerotia [Re: BUK]
#20923739 - 12/03/14 04:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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BUK said: For my taste I just bulk/case jalisco immediately, any sclerotia being a bonus, but leave galindoi in jars; I've yet to bother even fruiting them as it's apparently a pain. I guess if I had mexicana/A I might do both.
Ok, so I am hearing to leave Galindoi sit in the jars till the stones form and with the Mexicana I can get away with spawing right to bulk? Forgive me im stoned as usual and having hard time following, LOL! Or, are there people who think you should let both sit in jars for months? People on both sides?? I DO want to try Galindoi outside, A friend did it and the slcerotia is crazy aggressive. LOL, I think I got it. im gonna try something else out outside like the gymnopilus. Don't know if you guys saw or remember my posts about colonizing g. luteofoius then spread that grain right out inot some nice rotten pine. ONLY to have a little fukin mouse or a sqirrrel decide he liked what he smelled and ate it, ALL of it, not even just a little left to restart the process. So on that note thos time Im getting wise, Gonna colonize then spawn onto some chips INSIDE first till it gets a good strong hold. Another good ones was the fuckin WILD TURKEYS cam and scrathed the SHI out of my cube bed, they were JUST getting ready to pin too I wanted to cry or kill em all when that happened and I don't kill animals. So then I had another idea to put chicken wire over the cube bed so the little bastards couldn't get to them anymore and it workled like a charm!! Then the slugs and some freakt little grub or caterpillar lookin thing(you can see it a little in my photo gallery in my hand). Had to set beer traps very time there were pins and a flush. But Shit yeah I learned a LOT from my experience this summer. Outside grows are great but they do have pluses and minuses. Ok let me shut it now...
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Edited by jerseyian (12/03/14 05:13 PM)
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jerseyian
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jerseyian said:
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BUK said: For my taste I just bulk/case jalisco immediately, any sclerotia being a bonus, but leave galindoi in jars; I've yet to bother even fruiting them as it's apparently a pain. I guess if I had mexicana/A I might do both.
Ok, so I am hearing to leave Galindoi sit in the jars till the stones form and with the Mexicana I can get away with spawing right to bulk? Forgive me im stoned as usual and having hard time following, LOL! Or, are there people who think you should let both sit in jars for months? People on both sides?? I DO want to try Galindoi outside, A friend did it and the slcerotia is crazy aggressive. LOL, I think I got it. im gonna try something else out outside like the gymnopilus. Don't know if you guys saw or remember my posts about colonizing g. luteofoius then spread that grain right out inot some nice rotten pine. ONLY to have a little fukin mouse or a sqirrrel decide he liked what he smelled and ate it, ALL of it, not even just a little left to restart the process. So on that note thos time Im getting wise, Gonna colonize then spawn onto some chips INSIDE first till it gets a good strong hold. Another good ones was the fuckin WILD TURKEYS cam and scrathed the SHI out of my cube bed, they were JUST getting ready to pin too I wanted to cry or kill em all when that happened and I don't kill animals. So then I had another idea to put chicken wire over the cube bed so the little bastards couldn't get to them anymore and it workled like a charm!! Then the slugs and some freakt little grub or caterpillar lookin thing(you can see it a little in my photo gallery in my hand). Had to set beer traps very time there were pins and a flush. But Shit yeah I learned a LOT from my experience this summer. Outside grows are great but they do have pluses and minuses. Ok let me shut it now...
Mkaay Buk. Sounds like a plan to me.I hear both are very potent??
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From what I understand a sclerotia producing strain will really only produce any significant amounts of truffles in the casing layer if the environment is less than ideal to fruit the actual mushrooms. Now, that being said I've heard Galindoi is such a prolific fruiter that it will actually produce a decent amount of truffles in the casing layer throughout the flushes, they just won't get as big as if you let them grow in jars for months. I have a bunch of truffle jars going, as well as Galindoi, Mexicana, and Jalisco casings that will be compared and ranked to eachother based on fruit/stone production in the casing trays. So far in all my jars though my Galindoi (really ATL#7) is absolutely just taking off; with Mexicana: A coming in second having just a few stones and Jalisco having none whatsoever (this being the reason I crumbled&cased instead) even after 2 months of full colonization.
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Ok, Yes when I first read about sclerotia it said it was formed when conditions were not optimal, too cold, etc. And, that was the way of ensuring that mushy species survived in times of hardship. Def doing Galindoi in jars fo r most of the time stones are forming, months I have heard.
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Have some galindoi in the mail right now. Was wondering about fruiting these as well. How are the fruits potency vs the stones potency? Is it even worth fruiting at all?
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