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OfflineChicken Hoagie

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Helping Girlfriend Overcome (bipolar?) Mental illness with Mushrooms
    #20761973 - 10/27/14 10:49 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I'll keep this short...

She is very shy, and she feels her emotions are dull and that she builds up her anger inside..She has random days of depression, and always indecisive on anything. She is deathly afraid of meeting new people and admits she often never knows what to say to start a conversation, let alone keep a conversation going..especially with anybody she doesn't know. She feels she never used to be this way before her first trip with acid that I experienced with her...she came down and was afraid to speak for quite some time. We have been through a lot of emotional struggles together but she trusts me and only me when I tell her i can help her fix these problems shes having inside her head..She is also heavily addicted to cigarettes!

I truly believe I can ..sort of be her therapist so to speak. I am obviously not a professional, but she has experienced tripping numerous other times, just never has she had a trip that I have described to her having..She has never had "the eye-opener" as I like to call it..

So what is some advice I can have on walking her through this? Would a quarter of cambodian's be too much for someone who has never tripped "heavily"? I want her to have the deepest experience she's ever had, but I don't want it to be something that even I could barely handle:crazy2:.


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Re: Helping Girlfriend Overcome (bipolar?) Mental illness with Mushrooms [Re: Chicken Hoagie]
    #20762047 - 10/27/14 11:11 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

In my experience, what you get from a psychedelic trip is what you put in. I used think, like you, that if I gave a person a high, mind shattering dose of psychedelics they'd start having revelations like I did. It was only over time did I realize that is wasn't the drug causing these revelations but myself and that, for some other people, psychedelics don't catalyze such a change.

Personally I don't suggest trying to treat your girlfriends bi-polar with psychedelics. Sure give her the opportunity to take them if she wants to but don't force it upon her like it's some kind of bandaid on a wound. If she feels it's the right thing for her she'll probably seek it out herself. I think people that seek out the experience themselves are the ones who get the most from it.

Just my opinion.


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Re: Helping Girlfriend Overcome (bipolar?) Mental illness with Mushrooms [Re: Chicken Hoagie] * 1
    #20762058 - 10/27/14 11:16 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I looked around on Google and there isn't a whole lot of available information on the effects of psilocin/psilocybin with bipolar disorder, but most comments I've read from bipolar shroomers advise not to trip while on a 'down', and to make sure the tripping environment/set and setting are optimal.

If she hasn't experienced psychedelics or psilocin/psilocybin yet, but is willing to try them, I think she should start with a small dose to see how it affects her, like maybe 1-2g, and work upwards from there over a few sessions to no more than 5g.

I would advise you two to approach this with caution, and wish you two the best of luck!


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Re: Helping Girlfriend Overcome (bipolar?) Mental illness with Mushrooms [Re: kneesocks]
    #20762171 - 10/27/14 11:55 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Hi polar meds KILL psychs btw.

Also as you said....your not a doctor nor even sound like a seasoned trip sitter. Giving your bipolar gf a hard trip sounds like it could very easily be a shit show. I'd be real careful.

Just to elaborate on dawks comment.....psychs are not some magic key to problems. Often times they confuse or make things worse.

Be careful man.


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Re: Helping Girlfriend Overcome (bipolar?) Mental illness with Mushrooms [Re: Rewindicus]
    #20762484 - 10/28/14 03:21 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Sounds like a bad idea. :shrug:


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Re: Helping Girlfriend Overcome (bipolar?) Mental illness with Mushrooms [Re: Enjoywho]
    #20762811 - 10/28/14 07:31 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

She probably just needs a little ibogaine


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Re: Helping Girlfriend Overcome (bipolar?) Mental illness with Mushrooms [Re: Chicken Hoagie]
    #20764069 - 10/28/14 02:23 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I think your intentions are noble but I wouldn't dream of doing what you are suggesting. If you GF has been diagnosed with BP she is likely on a cocktail of strong psychotropic drugs. How do you know what is going to happen when you give her a large dose of psilocybin? The various different drug interactions possible would be difficult to predict and could be quite deleterious. Doctors operate under the basic tenants of do no harm. I don't think you have a good handle on the down side of such a plan.


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Re: Helping Girlfriend Overcome (bipolar?) Mental illness with Mushrooms [Re: pslyke]
    #20779294 - 11/01/14 02:38 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

She is on adderall and xanax..and I believe that is what is mainly causing her bipolar moodswings. She has social anxiety otherwise. She's a beautiful woman with a great heart, she just sadly has too much of her ..yes, crazy mother in her.

She's taken Metocin a few times and had a very good experience with me and my best friend in the comfort of our own apartment, but I don't feel like it was enough to bring her fully into a true psychedelic experience. She's even said she ate mushrooms with another friend before and didn't feel anything, whereas her friend was clearly tripping balls..and I know when she took her first hit of acid with me that the environment was too much with a bunch of other newbie guy buddies being obnoxious and her being the only girl. I feel like this took a big toll on her social anxiety and led her to do things like increase her intake of xanax and then adding adderall into the mix heavily once she started her internship at the same big employment center I also work at(insurance company IT dept).

She is a bright girl and understands things great when you explain it in the right light..She is definitely willing to try mushrooms again, but only with me she says. She knows her problems are deep-seeded now, and that she needs a therapist..but for as long as she has been with me, as a bestfriend moreso than just a boyfriend, she trusts me more than anyone in the world, including her own family..And I've proven that in more than enough ways to her, so I feel like, as crazy as it sounds to some..It will almost undoubtedly help her at the very least, overcome some of her anxieties she is dealing with, and learn to look at her feelings and emotions in a much more conscious aspect.

..I'm prescribed more adderall than she is, and also need some form of benzo's to mellow my physical symptoms from the adderall out..But she let's her physical symptoms control or turn into her emotions and feelings. I am well aware that taking both of these medications completely throws your brain's homeostatic balance of neurotransmitters off, but the fact that I understand and am aware of what these medications will do to me, especially when I go without them or come down from a stupid-crazy weekend first of the month binge, I feel like I am able to better control my thoughts and feelings now, and recognize when I'm letting drugs take over my emotional state of being..I want her to understand in the same way I do, because I am the only one that can connect to her and tap into her emotions and also understand how she is feeling or perceiving things at any given time..No one, including her own family can tell her they know her better, and she isn't afraid to admit it.


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Re: Helping Girlfriend Overcome (bipolar?) Mental illness with Mushrooms [Re: Chicken Hoagie]
    #20907915 - 11/30/14 11:31 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

as a bipolar manic mixed episode who uses natural scources to treat his bipolar i can tell you there is alot out there on bipolar its where to look,

a doc bacin in the day used pcycadelics to treat severe depression and anxiety until he died,
proffessor david nutt is doing trials now bassed on bipoalr adhd and various mental illnesses with promnising results,

and me?>?
here is an example for you cause yes i am strugglign to filter thru my racing mind atm, im due a dose,

normal senario,

i text 2 dealers askign fro £30 weed, no reply so i go roudn the corner and get some,

then the frist dealer texts me, it takes me an hour to open the message sweatting and shaking fustratedly kickign myself saying i dont know why im doing this ffs and eventuraly i open it,,,,

''got weed bro'' it reads,

i spend 30 mins retpying a message so it soudns ok, and makign sure i soudn not a div, i feel so bad liek i have let him down, and i bite a hole in my cheek, chew my nails and pinch my arm to try feel beter,
for hours and somtimes the next day i am stil feelign bad for letting him down even tho i know i havent,

this is a small episode in my life just 1 problem i face with bipolar,

now after taking 4grams of b+ and having the most sensialy crazy mindblowing trip and laughter with my partner, in the mroning i wasnt sweatting,
i wasnt seweatting for aroudn 5 days, dry tops not 6 changes and topless for the day,

and for almost 2 weeks this is how my tests have gone,

text 2 dealers, and 1 replied i went to him and the other tht me after and i opened the text as if it was nothign and i text ''sorted bro cheers n eway''

without ANY emotion or fear or anxiety like it was nothing... whicvh it was, omg the anxiety reliefe is amazing i tell you so much so, i can have a conversation with someone in the street , and i can pick my kids up without hiding away from parents,

( i am 2 months into testing) ive gone 3 weeks without now and im really getting bad again as u can see ur probly messed up reading my egyption hyrogliphics lol, im sorry but im racing , imagine bipolar as a dose of speed in a paralized body and u got me,

imagine waking up everyday and figureing out wether your Eyore or Tigger

but with shrooms im chritstpher robin :smile:


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Re: Helping Girlfriend Overcome (bipolar?) Mental illness with Mushrooms [Re: drgreen89]
    #20907933 - 11/30/14 11:35 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

can i add ANY pharmaceutical will woorsen her bro they supress ya and believe me ZOMBIE ya or give ya othe rproblems, i got heart block 3 times and stopped breathing fuck that ,

good way to treat it but expensive is cannabis oil,

or if your good in research or knwo a doc, there is 4 cannabis strains that can be used in with ups and downs,

but most wil say meeh u need indica or sativa ...wrong
it goes deeper than that

every strain has a number of terpienes and every strain has a slightly different level of terps, every different level will be finely tuned into every single problem minor difference etc you have, different for every person, from restless legs to whatever,

its hard atm due to it being un researched, and now on the legaliseation everyones seemed to fget abut the research asmcuh and dive into just selling any strain, every strain needs a lable like every medication.

most pharma drugs are only an atom difference and that makes a whole new drug, every strain is a different drug so its hard to find select strains,

i have mine, it took years, but ihave them,

im lookign to make a psycilo and thc cbd pill for myself soon


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