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 Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? 
#2088823 - 11/10/03 05:12 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Does using marijuana inevitably lead to harder drug use?
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#2088918 - 11/10/03 06:10 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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No more so than cigerettes, oxygen, water, sex, alcohol, or any other number of things that people have tried before using cannabis.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Seuss]
#2098456 - 11/13/03 03:29 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I am said yes, but that isn't a bad thing.
my first drug was X. I was curious before that though. I became more curious after it. it has made me a better person though. 
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ]
#2099174 - 11/13/03 06:34 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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If someone is the type of person that wants to try drugs, it does not matter which is the first one they try. To cast blame on the most harmless of all illegal drugs is idiotic and nothing more than a brainwashing technique.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ]
#2099574 - 11/13/03 08:15 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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you make the choice, not the drug
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ]
#2101328 - 11/13/03 08:11 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Of course we make choices, that is a very redunant arguement. I didn't drink nor did I smoke cigs before X.
But if you think that illegal drugs or legal ones don't have a chemical change in your body that influence you decision making for the time they are active, then you are the idiot. I can even go as far as saying that it has a permanit outlook for me. i.e. creativy and chemistry
A good way to put it:
Its harder for a person to lose there virginity, but once they lost it its not that hard to add to the count of people that they sleep with. It even becomes easier to "do" more things with people. you know what I mean. it may be your choice but you only make it because feeling it gets you.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ]
#2102022 - 11/13/03 11:04 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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yes it is, i came upon the understanding when i was tripping. Marijuana itself isnt a drug that makes you do others. It just introduces most of us to the world of drugs making the use of other drugs easier to happen. or something...
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ]
#2102387 - 11/14/03 12:57 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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ahhh i posted the best response here... somebody deleted it and STOLE MY ANSWER. shiesy ass buisness brewing
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Only1AK]
#2102479 - 11/14/03 01:29 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
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ahhh i posted the best response here... somebody deleted it and STOLE MY ANSWER. shiesy ass buisness brewing
No-one stole it, this forum is fully moderated so your posts won't show up until a mod checks it.
I approved your second post to emphasise this point.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#2104217 - 11/14/03 08:46 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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to bad he wont see it... YOU GOT BAN Only1AK!!!!!
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#2105091 - 11/14/03 02:06 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hmmm, interesting results so far 8 Yes & 15 N. I didn't expect as many yes's especially as this is a drug-related site, and can be quite bias. 
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#2105126 - 11/14/03 02:41 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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> I didn't expect as many yes's especially as this is a drug-related site
It is surprising, but the gateway fallacy is subtle, which is why it is so often used. There are plenty of negatives that go hand in hand with drug use. It is too bad that the governments feel it is better to lie to the public rather than educate them.
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 Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#2105296 - 11/14/03 04:41 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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The first drug i did was LSD, followed by pot the same evening...
I got hooked on nicotine because they roll the joints with tobacco in Europe. Pot really is a gateway drug -- to cigarettes.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Annapurna1]
#2106502 - 11/14/03 10:34 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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can someone pm the total reason why gateway drugs are a fallacy??
i am an opened minded person and I want to understand your arguement. I don't understand it, and I don't believe that I have been brainwashed by the government. I didn't even know what a gateway drug was until I had done 5 other drugs first, plus I understand you can say everything is a drug(ie. air, water, chocolate). I use that all the time too(in a different way), but breathing air doen't make me want to do mushrooms. and doing X didn't make me want to do mushrooms, but they made it easier to do them. I didn't have to think and worry as much about it.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Annapurna1]
#2106602 - 11/14/03 11:03 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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id say mj is a gateway drug.
i would consider alcohol more of a gateway drug.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Annapurna1]
#2107193 - 11/15/03 02:20 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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i believe marijuana is abit of a gateway drug, to the experimenter, but thats not to say its the weeds fault as we can all agree. I tried weed first, and since then ive tried a few other entheogens, shrooms, e, speed, k based pills and a few other assorted things. but thats me, i love to explore the depths of my electrically charged brain. altered states are my specialty! (not saying im better than other people in experience) i say get over the fact whether it is or it isnt a gateway drug, cause the fact is its always been up to us what we put in our body and we have all chosen to go down this path. i just wished everyone else would get over it.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ]
#2108643 - 11/15/03 04:08 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I just sent this in a PM to Zerohero, but figured I might as well post it for everybody else:
The general idea behind the gateway drug is as follows:
We interviewed 1000 people that have done heroin. Out of these 1000 people, 955 of them smoked weed before trying heroin. Therefore, smoking weed leads to heroin use.
Sounds pretty good... but, when you change it just a little...
We interviewed 1000 people that have done heroin. Out of these 1000 people, 995 of them drank coffee before trying heroin. Therefore, drinking coffee leads to heroin use.
The problem, and the source of the fallacy, occurs because the cause/effect relationship is only being looked at from one side:
I did A before I did B, therefore A leads to B.
But, you also have to ask how many people that have done A have never done B. (How many people that smoke weed don't try heroin.) Example:
We interviewed 1000 people that smoke weed. Out of those 1000 people, only 5 have tried heroin. Therefore, weed is not a gateway drug.
The entire thing is very misleading. It took millions of people getting lung cancer from smoking cigs before the statistics were accurate enough to suggest a causal relationship.
Another question to ask, if weed didn't exist, would these people have tried some other drug instead? The gateway drug theory claims that smoking weed leads to harder drug use. I claim that hard drug use is inevetable with these people, and that weed was simply the first drug that they tried.... and even this is seldom true... usually caffeine, alcohol, and nicotine are first... the socially accepted drugs.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Seuss]
#2109838 - 11/16/03 03:56 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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yeah. anyone who knows anything about statistics and research will tell you that observational studies are almost never sufficient to establish causation.
but that said, i'm going to have to weigh in on the gateway drug side. i honestly think it is... but only because it shows alot of people that illegal drugs can be quite benign. i think if it were not for ganja, and its illegal status, alot more people would accept the idea that illegal drugs are very bad and should be completely avoided.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Seuss]
#2110055 - 11/16/03 05:23 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I said yes, I think pot is a gateway drug. If I hadn't smoked pot one summer, I wouldn't have explored further with opium, mushrooms, etc. I used moderation however, I never got hooked. I didn't believe that "gateway" stuff 'til I was high and passed out on the other side of the gate. I'm glad I experimented though. It's helped me realize my priorities in life, and what needs to be done. So that's my two cents.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ImOver18]
#2110709 - 11/16/03 10:54 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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NO>NO>NO>
If reefer was legal then it wouldn't be a "gateway" drug. Because it is illegal is why "they" say it is a "gateway" drug. If you didn't have too meet scketchy people to acquire some herb then you would not ever come across real drugs, i.e. meth, heroine, crack, etc... I consider reefer and mushrooms as medicine. Purely medicine. And all the connotations and that goes with medicine not "drugs". Later. Medicinebag
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: medicinebag]
#2112070 - 11/17/03 01:11 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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I agree to an extent with you Medicinebag. If pot weren't illegal, and we could simply buy good herb from a corner store, there'd be no where near the amount of crime we have now, and kids wouldn't be stabbing each other over dime bags. But since most of the sketchy ass people who sell pot know the people who have the other harder drugs, which make it more available, so while you're picking up pot you can pick up coke and O at the same time. Making it a lot easier to obtain and experiment with more harder drugs. So I agree with you on that.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ImOver18]
#2115331 - 11/17/03 03:16 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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kids wouldn't be stabbing each other over dime bags.
haha... where do you live?
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ]
#2117044 - 11/18/03 12:04 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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You're laughing, it happens everywhere. I've seen brawls over stolen $20 glass spoons that wind kids up in hospitals. I suppose it's funny. Oh, I live in America.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ImOver18]
#2123441 - 11/20/03 02:04 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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There are no gateway drugs; there are available drugs.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: databitch]
#2124987 - 11/20/03 08:59 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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it is, but only because its the most "light" "popular" "not-harmful" "drug" and its the first "drug" you start using with your buddies. and soon some of the buddies start takin X and amphetamines.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: T0aD]
#2126424 - 11/21/03 07:52 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Second Reply.
If I could grow my own, how would it be a gateway to anything else. The gateway is when you have to score a sac and the dudes are like here want to try "this". If everyone that smoked grew their own, and to buy it you had to go to a "refeer" store. How could their be any kind of gateway to other drugs. Either you grow your own or buy the Company grass. Win win.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ImOver18]
#2131881 - 11/24/03 04:12 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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> If I hadn't smoked pot one summer, I wouldn't have explored further with opium
So you are telling me that if cannabis (pot) didn't exist, you would have never tried any other illegal drug, period. If your answer is anything but yes, then you have fallen for the gateway drug propaganda.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Seuss]
#2132545 - 11/24/03 10:15 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yes.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ImOver18]
#2132758 - 11/24/03 11:54 PM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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> Yes.
Wow... I respect you for standing behind what you say. Too bad more people can't follow your example.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#2135284 - 11/26/03 12:05 AM (19 years, 2 months ago) |
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#2432650 - 03/15/04 05:45 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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It is a gateway drug because most people don't really think about trying shrooms or lsd or anything else until after they smoke weed, but it's not inevitable. I know a few people who smoke weed a lot more than I do who would think I'm crazy for saying that I want to do LSD.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: abhi]
#2437862 - 03/16/04 10:25 AM (18 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I would say caffine is way more of a "gateway drug" because it is widely accepted. I was addicted at age 4 to my first drug. Sprite 
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#2865307 - 07/07/04 11:21 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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NO
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#2865377 - 07/07/04 11:35 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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gate to were
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#2865381 - 07/07/04 11:36 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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no it not!
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#2865384 - 07/07/04 11:36 PM (18 years, 6 months ago) |
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how come i am not seeing my post
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: SporeX]
#4661226 - 09/15/05 01:56 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
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Yeah I would say caffine is way more of a "gateway drug" because it is widely accepted. I was addicted at age 4 to my first drug. Sprite
Um last time I checked Sprite never had any caffine.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#4661244 - 09/15/05 02:00 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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You need more options.
Can marijuana be a gateway drug? Yes, but no more than alcohol or cigarettes, or curiousity itself are.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: barfightlard]
#4662423 - 09/15/05 06:16 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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id say no because ive smoked pot a long time and althou ive wanted to try other drugs that just to have a different kind of experience.. not a harder one.. like id never do hardcore drugs.. only weed and shroomies for me.. and the occasional dxm..
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IMHO pot is a gateway drug! I think, if you have to sneak or hide to do a drug there is a level of excitement there for some people! That excitement often peaks curiosity and can lead to other things, not only drugs, crime, violence, sex, food, ect... 
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Tippinthru]
#4670210 - 09/16/05 11:23 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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well ur entitled to ur opinion.. i dont believe that.. people smoke becuaz they like the high.. not the risk of gettin caught.. atleast me and my friends.
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Ok, but why did those people first smoke pot. I know I did because I was told it was bad, so I wanted to see what all the fuss was about.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#4670602 - 09/17/05 01:16 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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It's not inherently a gateway drug, but for some people it can turn them on to drugs in general. But the same could be said for tobacco, alcohol, ritalin, or sugar. I also know people who tried other illegal drugs before trying marijuana. In any case, saying that marijuana leads to harder drugs is like saying that masturbation leads to rape.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Silversoul]
#4671594 - 09/17/05 06:28 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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masturbation does lead to rape...lol.. uhhh wait.. uhh
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Silversoul]
#4673219 - 09/17/05 04:22 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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If marijuana is a gateway drug, it's only because of the taboo it has an illegal drug. If booze was held in the same regard as marijuana and every other illicit drug, it too would probably have some gateway effect with some people. It does not though because getting drunk isn't considered the same as getting "high" by the current rectitudes of society. Most people I know who smoke pot only smoke pot, and maybe use psychedelics once in awhile. The people I know who use harder recreational drugs however all had their introduction to getting high with marijuana.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#4686114 - 09/20/05 10:10 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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.....and 10 out of 10 heroin addicts started off by drinking milk.
Pot is not a gateway drug at all....it is all on the person if they decided to try other drugs.
The first thing I ever did was started drinking, then tried shrooms....then from shrooms I tried pot, then started smoking cigs....so I guess shrooms are a gateway drug too.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#4686342 - 09/20/05 11:23 PM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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Smack and Crack are Gateway Drugs.
Before you know it your smoking Pot and Cigarettes,
Drinking Alcohol, Sodas and Milk.
Having sex, etc etc... it's just horid.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Shdwstr]
#4686850 - 09/21/05 01:50 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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I have friends who have done both pot and shrooms...dunno which first, but they won't touch pot or any other drugs but are rather fond of shrooms, So I wouldnt consider it a gateway, some people just don't like it.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: abhi]
#4687907 - 09/21/05 06:00 AM (17 years, 4 months ago) |
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>>It is a gateway drug because mo
st people don't really think about trying shrooms or lsd or anything else until after they smoke weed
Correlation is not and does not imply causation. The marijuana does not make anyone do other drugs. The person does them. THe person that goe son to use other drugs because they are more likely to have used them anyway. Just because most of all heroin addicts polled say they've used marijuana first doesn't lend evidence to the gateway theory. You have to consider a control group. And that is, marijuana users who have not used other drugs, preferebly long time sole marijuana smokers. That's one natural quasi-experiment that can be done and is done. And the most intuitive counter argument is caffeine and nicotine and some others are all drugs, and a great deal of marijuana smokers have tried them and may even be regular users as well as heroin addicts have used those, why are they not listed as such.
You posit this natural counter argument by stating "but it's not inevitable" and that is the basis of the counter argument outlined in the above paragraph. Now an experiment to try, and one that could never be done because of restrictions on research, would be to take a person who is a virgin to marijuana and have them smoke it for a while, probably a whole group of people, and see if any move on and how many and if it's a statistically significant amount.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: neuro]
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ok.. i dont think pot is a gateway drug however i was just thinkin.. people do love doing things because its illegal.. like think back in the days of capone.. more people than ever were drinkin and going to "private clubs" to get drunk only because it was illegal and they liked the rush.. idk i just find that interesting.. something someone said made me think of that and had a lightbulb moment.. if pot was legal.. less people would prolly do it.. because seriously.. what potheads dont smoke because its illegal.. if u wanna smoke some bud.. ur going to do it.. unless ur on probation like me
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Did you know in a survey of 1000 people convicted for cruelty to animals such as (torturing dogs, ivory poaching) that 995 had previously killed a spider or fly?
Killing the spider gave them a bloodlust which was a gateway for them to move onto bigger animals.
Another survey of 1000 rapists showed that 995 had seen a pornographic movie or magazine at one point....
I seriously thought this thread was just going to be a joke.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: blackout]
#4773578 - 10/09/05 01:32 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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The only mind-altering substances I've ever done have been mushrooms and acid. No alcohol, weed, tabacco, opiates or perscription drugs (abused them at least).
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#4776087 - 10/09/05 05:04 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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fuckin voting doesnt work for me, bahhh! its ok, dont fret though 
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Locus]
#4778036 - 10/10/05 02:27 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alcohol is the gateway drug...
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Divided_Sky]
#4796472 - 10/13/05 09:59 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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voting doenst work for my either....but Im sure 95% of kids in highschool whom have done or doing drugs would say they tried alcohol/cigarretes way before they ever touched pot.
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nope lol, i never touched cigs, but went to pot and alcohol... cigs are useless
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: tiNtiN]
#4833793 - 10/21/05 09:10 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I don't think Pot is a gateway drug, I think when people try their first drug of any kind, they determine how far they'll go, me for example, I knew I didn't mind trying shrooms and X but as for other drugs, I never wanted to go there.
I think people consider pot the gateway drug because it's the first step on a long journey, just like college [bad metaphor I know] but you have to get through your freshman year before you make it to the next level, some stop there, like me, I never went all the way with college and I feel I saved myself a lot of wasted time with my profession.
I just feel people like to point the finger at things to blame, pot doesn't make you want to try other drugs, it just shows you what a drug can do to you and for some people, they just "need" to know how far it goes. Wanna trip without the chemicals? Try salvia 10x or higher extract, one bowl will let you see for a few minutes then go away. It's a GREAT thing to learn how to really trip. Salvia made me talk to a shower curtain with little fish on it...
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Toqom]
#4837149 - 10/22/05 01:42 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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nope. people try pot becuase its like safe and its not addicting, has mild affects for the most part, and its easy to get your hands on.. i know when i was 16 it was easy to get an 1/8th then a pack of cigs.. but no i dont think pot is a gateway drug its just a starting point and u decide if u like the have further exploration into a world of your own design!
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#4853529 - 10/26/05 11:07 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alcohol is a gateway drug! Most everything I experimented with for the first time when I was drunk.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Mcdoopy]
#4869247 - 10/30/05 09:36 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I dont really see marijuana as a gateway drug, because weed isn't the reason I went on to try other shit.. Moreso, weed sparked a new me, and I slowly crafted a new perspective on drugs.
So heres my story in summary- One night at the end of a football game I was goin with my friends and I knew they were gonna smoke. I cannot describe or reason anything as to why I decided to smoke with them, because before that night, like even 30 minutes before I smoked, I was still a hardcore anti-drugs person. A week later I tried drinking. I was still strongly against all other drugs, that was supposed to be as far as I would take it, weed and alcohol. But slowly I found that I would try harder ones, until I hit the stage where I believed (and I still somewhat do) that I would try ANY drug that I had never tried before. Yes this includes stuff like heroin.
So marijuana obviously has a role in this, but I mean I have a bunch of friends who only smoke weed and they have been doing it for a helluva long time. Without doing other stuff. Essentially, it is the mind that is the gateway to other drugs.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: ZoDiaC]
#4937350 - 11/15/05 11:16 PM (17 years, 2 months ago) |
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Not inevitably but it is the first drug alot of people take.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: abrad84]
#15962881 - 03/18/12 07:27 PM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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wouldnt imagine that it is a gateway drug people just make stupid choices this being one of the first usually
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: bulsie]
#15970228 - 03/20/12 10:07 AM (10 years, 10 months ago) |
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Gravedigging but I wouldn't say it's a gateway drug 
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: cranberries]
#16146235 - 04/27/12 06:12 PM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#16260559 - 05/21/12 07:43 AM (10 years, 8 months ago) |
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i think it is mistaken to have magical "make you do other drug" powers for these reasons
1. it is one of most well know and available and least harmful drugs thus will be tried most likely BEFORE other more harmful or tarnished of reputation drugs by those who ALREADY fit teh personality profile of a person who is willing to try drugs and thus having first tried the least harmful when they try the next harmful its not the first..
no magic pwoers
2. those who are afraid of drugs then get pressured into / ccurious or wahtever the fuck reason epople smoke weed for. well they will smoke it and realize nthat they didn't grow horns or murder their siblings while humping the family house pet and then think "fuck i've been lied to! maybe the other ones arn't harmful either"
and then of course experimentation proceeds
no magic powers, just a good example of a drug that doesn't make you grow horns and murder your siblings while humping teh family hosue pet
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: jebre]
#16374855 - 06/13/12 01:44 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I smoked a cigarette and drank vodka before I ever tried MJ (I was like 8 lol)
So really they were my gateway "drugs".
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: GongGuy12]
#16375665 - 06/13/12 07:58 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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caffeine often precedes marijuana experimentation
i drank coffee b4 i ever smoked weed
caffeine is psycho-stimulant
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Damn it, they really have to stop calling things LSD that aren't really LSD. That goes for dealers, police, and the media. Stop it, stop it, stop it. It makes the real LSD look bad.[/quote]
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: jebre]
#16389488 - 06/16/12 07:09 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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Who bumps an 8 year old thread? I'd suggest a new one now.
Marijuana got me into mushrooms and such, if I hadn't tried marijuana I doubt i'd have tried acid or mushrooms or DMT or any other drug for that matter... Sure it can be seen as a gateway, but I'd consider it more of a curiousity pique than a gateway.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Maverick]
#16389796 - 06/16/12 08:23 PM (10 years, 7 months ago) |
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I only tried Marijuana because I tried soda first. Soda is a gateway to mj.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: VaeVictum]
#16458463 - 06/30/12 07:02 AM (10 years, 6 months ago) |
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alcohol is for sure
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 Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#16735313 - 08/21/12 09:14 AM (10 years, 5 months ago) |
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In my opinion pot is definately not a gateway drug. I have been smoking it for quite some time now and i still stick to mushrooms and liqour.
I cant say i havent tried any prescription drugs but that was only one time and before i even really got into smoking pot, it kind of annoys me when people preach that marijuana is a gateway drug but really it varies between different people.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#16753143 - 08/29/12 06:17 PM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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That's absolutely correct, marijuana is a gateway drug. I experienced the gateway phenomena personally.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: LastBreath]
#16778398 - 09/03/12 04:53 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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This is one of those things I think I debated in high school that's a totally 2 sided issuse. Weed is not really addictive and you can stick to it... but really tobacco and alcohol are what people try first I think.
I also think if I never smoked weed I would have never dreamed of trying lsd mushrooms molly etc because they are a hell of a lot different/stronger. The only gateway weed takes you to is your fridge bed, or into a deeper consciousness and being  
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#16857671 - 09/17/12 01:52 AM (10 years, 4 months ago) |
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Nah, there are many people who just stick to weed their choice. I have tried other "harder" drugs but I actually do my research and use responsibly.
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in a sense ye i think weed is a gate way drug. you see you whole life throught school and tv th governmnt and the teachers around you fill your head with how evil drugs are and ho they are so dangerous an ruin your lifeand when you smok weed fo the firt time theres nothing lik it. you realize everything everyone has been drilling into you head is a bunch propoganda and lies. it make you question whether o not theyv been lieing to you abou eveyother drug. so at least in my case after smoking weed it opened my as to he trutg tht not all drugs are actually drugs and garmful to you or the people around you. dont get me wrong i mean shit like crystal an crack are no thong that should be even considered as a possibility but aftee smoking weed at least in my case i decided go seek out the truth for myself and research real info and eventually do other things like shrooms lsd and mdma. so yeah i guesweed is a gateway becauss if i didnt smoke weed id still be in the grasp of th terroristic tactic of my government to brainwash me against all drugs.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: the.wizard]
#17058438 - 10/19/12 07:22 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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IMO cigarettes is the gateway drug to addiction, they set your brain up for your mood based on chemical dependence, ie no cigarette can't relax or concentrate. Even though I do know drug addicts that don't smoke. I also know drug addicts that don't smoke Mary.
That and also the add/ADHD meds that doctors are so fond of prescribing for kids. Every single kid I knew that abused them back in school are smoking meth now as adults, coincidence? I think not.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#17059374 - 10/19/12 11:48 AM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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First drug is a gateway drug, marijuana just happens to be a lot of people's first drug.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Darwin23]
#17066869 - 10/20/12 08:44 PM (10 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's definitely a gateway drug. Until I smoked pot, I hadn't finished high school, entered university, obtained my two degrees in engineering, raised a family and started my successful business. I would recommend this gateway drug to everyone. 
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#17131523 - 10/31/12 12:50 AM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Coffee is a gateway drug, beer is a gateway drug, cigarettes are a gateway drug. People who are predisposed to experimentation are going to fucking do drugs it's as simple as that, you can't blame it on the damn drug.
So if America truly believed in the gateway drug theory, ANYTHING with any attributes of a gateway drug would be illegal. There's more holes in this 'theory' than I can count.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: schwarg]
#17223067 - 11/15/12 04:20 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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Amen RR. And schwarg for that matter. The war on drugs and this terminology is ridiculous nonsense.
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Jackal]
#17239736 - 11/18/12 07:16 PM (10 years, 2 months ago) |
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So sick of hearing this. 5hr energy is the true gateway drug
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Re: Is Marijuana A Gateway Drug? [Re: Cyans]
#17346277 - 12/07/12 04:05 AM (10 years, 1 month ago) |
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to me MJ is a GETAWAY drug :-)
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