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Pereskia or pereskiopsis..?
    #2088804 - 11/10/03 10:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Been searching for perskopsis a while now..it seems that noone got em..then it got to my knowledge that IKEA did sell cuttings in the past..so i started to look into things since i figured if IKEA can find em and distribute them in bulk..it wouldent be too hard to find a distributor..??
Then i stared to check some relations to pereskia spp..
Can this be a suitible grafting-stock since it seems to be very fast growing and is in the Cactaceae family..??!?

Is this infact what you guys call a perskopsis?[i know that it is diffrent speices..but the similaritys, man..]
It seems like it is almost identical what i can see on pictures..[though i havent seen a perskopsis in real life..]

Here is a exampel..


Do a search in pictures @google on pereskia..

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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #2089192 - 11/10/03 01:41 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

pereskia is one thing (a succulent, right?), peresKIOPSIS is a cactaceae, thats why you can graft other cacti onto it...
we don't 'call' pereskias pereskiopsis out of nothing...
besides that, there are so many ways to graft scions besides on pereskiopsis!
it seems Una's released a pereskiopsis fever all around. =)


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2089526 - 11/10/03 03:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Go with whut werks.



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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: dastats]
    #2089876 - 11/10/03 05:51 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

No, Pereskia is in the Cactaceae family..That was why i was wondering..see my point? :smile:
And yes Una started a pereskiopsis craze.. :smile:
----8<---------8<---
Pereskia aculeata Mill.
  General information:

Query NCU-3e

Common Name: Barbados Gooseberry, Lemon Vine
Family: Cactaceae Juss.

Country of Origin: West Indies
Habitat:
Description: A West Indian cactus shrub with a tendency to vine, it bears spines in pairs or trios. The berry is small, yellow with a juicy, subacid pulp. The flavor is pleasant and is used fresh or preserved. The leaves may be cooked as greens. Propagated by seed or cutting. bla bla bla...
/----8<------------

And since ppl seems to have trouble finding pereskiopsis i thought this could be a suitible substitute?
What do you guys think..i?m gonna order me some seeds and cuttings and try anyways..
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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #2089935 - 11/10/03 06:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

-----8<---------8<---from:http://florawww.eeb.uconn.edu/acc_num/198502660.html---8<---
Division: Magnoliophyta
Class: Magnoliopsida
SubClass: Caryophyllidae
Order: Caryophyllales
SubOrder:
[B]Family: Cactaceae
SubFamily: Pereskioideae
Tribe:
SubTribe:
Based upon: Anderson, E.F., The Cactus Family, 2001, The Timber Press


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #2090071 - 11/10/03 06:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

from what i gather pereskia and pereskiopsis are the same thing.. anyone know if this is true?


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: jojoba]
    #2090165 - 11/10/03 07:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well, same thing or not, if it's a cactaceae it might well work!


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2090427 - 11/10/03 09:14 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

We just fucked Una and the Persk thing up...


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: jojoba]
    #2090787 - 11/10/03 11:36 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

jojoba said:
from what i gather pereskia and pereskiopsis are the same thing.. anyone know if this is true? 




Don?t think so.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/living_rocks/message/641
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the vascular bundles of Pereskia become woody quite quickly, making it difficult for the vascular bundles to connect.  Pereskiopsis stems are much better in this respect.

Pereskia is a deciduous plant, shedding its leaves during winter in Europe, when it becomes dormant.  Pereskiopsis is more like an evergreen and under the right conditions (heat, moisture and light) can carry on growing all year round, to the benefit of the grafted plant.




Pereskia, large leaves,  bigger plant:



  Here some  Pereskiopsis:
 



Selenicereus grandiflorus or Opuntia are good alternatives to Pereskiopsis.  :crazy2: 


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: Agarico]
    #2090985 - 11/11/03 01:28 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

it?s not the same thing..but still, it is a fastgrowing member of the cactaceae family, which would qualify it as a suitible rootstock.

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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #2091084 - 11/11/03 02:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It looks similar in the stem, but pereskiopsis seems to have thicker leaves. Pereskiopsis leaves are thick almost jade like. They ooze liquid when pinched or broken off. Does the stem of your plant have any spines?


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #2091317 - 11/11/03 04:18 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

stonErollEr1 said:
it?s not the same thing..but still, it is a fastgrowing member of the cactaceae family, which would qualify it as a suitible rootstock.

peace... 




lol "the vascular bundles of Pereskia become woody quite quickly, making it difficult for the vascular bundles to connect. Pereskiopsis stems are much better in this respect" . So your qualification goes to china.

I sent you a pm something like a month ago about german nurseries  can you remember? :lipsrsealed: You could have bought pereskiopsis for 1euro a meter if you read it.  Half year nightime in Sweden? :smile2:

         


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: Agarico]
    #2091447 - 11/11/03 05:37 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ahh...hmm..i didnt noticed they had pereskiopsis..i didnt look for it at the time.. :smile:
Thanx for the tip btw...and no i dont know of a cheaper seed supplier than those guy either.[hmm..didn?t i reply to your PM..?]

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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #2092407 - 11/11/03 02:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

hey stoneroller, you can try also epiphylliums, hylocereus, even trich areoles to graft pups over...
soon i'll be trying the same with cereus peruvianus (grafting on areoles) to see what i get... (no trichs to spare).


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: felixhigh]
    #2107118 - 11/14/03 06:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

looks like crown of thorns


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: Mitchnast]
    #2108385 - 11/15/03 04:30 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It is...:)


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #2108668 - 11/15/03 09:47 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

oh i see. so i was wrong.. they seem so closely related you'd think they would react the same to grafting.


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: jojoba]
    #2110780 - 11/16/03 04:32 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Exactly. but then again..it doesnt seem to be as good grafting stock as i first thought.

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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: stonErollEr1]
    #2122458 - 11/19/03 12:53 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

i just got a rooted Pereskiopsis pooteri or something. it also came with a top cutting.. how do u care for it? as far as the rooted peice and the unrooted one.. any info on humidity, light, watering. ?


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Re: Pereskia or perskopsis..? [Re: jojoba]
    #2122574 - 11/19/03 01:35 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

like a cactaceae!
let it callous then root, you know this pray like a priest already i'm sure. :wink:


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