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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: Masked]
    #20907298 - 11/30/14 07:54 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Torturing animals by setting them all on fire and making one watch, for example, is pretty twisted and sick.  I call em like I see em.

So bite me...jackass :douchewink:




Oh, don't get me wrong. I agree with you. However, I can also see that you're quite the hypocritical jackass.

Let's revisit your original post:

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Just going to say, the way you handled your mouse problem was a little over the top.  You could have just tossed it in the garbage and not been such a lazy ass :crankey: lol




You were essentially telling the OP to throw a live, glue trapped mammal into the bin. Animals caught on glue traps will regularly break their bones from and tear off skin from the struggling, chew on a limb... all in the struggle to escape. If it doesn't die from that, it dies from dehydration/starvation. Something that would take days.

That is arguably worse than being burned alive. So technically speaking, you aren't any better than that guy and just as sick. To illustrate my point, here's a link of someone who found a still-alive mouse stuck on a glue trap in the garbage.



Is that acceptable to you, you fuckin' turd?

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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: TerryWhite]
    #20907304 - 11/30/14 07:59 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Throwing it away is better than purposefully mutilating, with joy.

Id suggest you re read the pub rules newb before you keep getting carried away with name calling.

For future reference...when a poster uses a :crankey: with a "lol"...they are probably just being playful.

I still stand its over the top what he did though.

And I still am disheartened by another member who said he burned a family of them in front of one so it could watch them die...pretty sick shit


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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: Masked]
    #20907333 - 11/30/14 08:13 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Throwing it away is better than purposefully mutilating, with joy.




How?

The animal was already dead. If it was alive, you'd have a point.

The reason I went ham on you is because throwing a live animal still stuck on a glue trap is despicable. The animal would suffer horribly for an indefinite period of time. It's disgusting. Why the hell would you recommend that?

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I still stand its over the top what he did though.




So was your post. When you trap an animal like that and it's alive, you either release it or you kill it humanely. You don't "throw it away" live and still stuck on the bloody trap because that's sick as well. A glue trap is very inhumane. The least the user of this trap can do is kill the animal in a responsible and humane way. I'd expect the same thing for people who trap rabbits, foxes, etc and they are still alive.

This is a live animal you're dealing with, not an inanimate object.

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And I still am disheartened by another member who said he burned a family of them in front of one so it could watch them die...pretty sick shit




I think they were just trolling.

Edited by TerryWhite (11/30/14 08:21 AM)

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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: TerryWhite]
    #20907350 - 11/30/14 08:19 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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How?





:facepalm:

If I have to explain why mutilating an alive OR dead animal with joy is a bad thing, then I give up...

:crankey: lol


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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: Masked]
    #20907358 - 11/30/14 08:24 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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:facepalm:

If I have to explain why mutilating an alive OR dead animal with joy is a bad thing, then I give up...




Whether it's bad or not is irrelevant, because that's not the point I'm making. The point I'm making is how is decapitating a dead animal worse than causing a live one to suffer in agony for hours to days?

They're both bad, sure, but clearly one is worse than the other if you have any kind of sensible and rational system of morals. Let me put it this way: is a taxidermist worse than a psycho who tortures an animal to death because they either enjoy it or are indifferent?

Edited by TerryWhite (11/30/14 08:26 AM)

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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: TerryWhite]
    #20907409 - 11/30/14 08:42 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Your "point" you keep trying to make has shifted tangents multiple times.

Again...it is pretty black and white...mutilating a dead OR alive animal with a joy that was evident in his descriptions, is not a good thing.

Back to my original post...I think it was a little over the top.

You can keep trying to straw man argue this to death all you want.

:dealwithit:


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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: Masked]
    #20907418 - 11/30/14 08:49 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Your "point" you keep trying to make has shifted tangents multiple times.





No it hasn't. I said it right from the beginning - you're a hypocrite. You call people sick and demented, yet you're also sick and demented by suggesting the OP throw it live in the garbage. Whether you are right about them being sick is completely irrelevant because you're not one to talk based on your initial post.

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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: TerryWhite]
    #20907432 - 11/30/14 08:56 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Demented hey?

Source?

Like I said...keep straw man arguing this till you are blue in the face for all I care.

Getting joy out of mutilating a dead or alive animal is in no way better than tossing it with sadness.

More appropriately though was me saying I felt it was a little over the top.

Nothing hypocritical about that.

Once again...:dealwithit:


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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: Masked]
    #20907469 - 11/30/14 09:10 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Getting joy out of mutilating a dead or alive animal is in no way better than tossing it with sadness.




You DON'T "toss it out with sadness", you put it out of its damn misery first. That's why your first post was shitty.

The OP didn't mutilate a live animal. The animal was dead. A dead animal cannot suffer. A dead animal cannot feel pain.

By your reasoning a taxidermist who enjoys their work is worse than some moron who was too squeamish to kill an animal themselves so they decide to starve it to death on a glue trap.

Additionally, where does the OP say they took "joy" mutilating a corpse? Where does this "joy" thing come from? Stop making up bullshit - you got caught out.

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More appropriately though was me saying I felt it was a little over the top.

Nothing hypocritical about that.




Throwing a glue-trapped animal in the bin to slowly suffer in agony is most definitely over the top. And precisely the reason why you're being hypocritical. You call someone's actions over the top, yet your suggestion was also over the top. You made up the "joy" bit to make the OP's actions look worse than they actually were, just so you could justify your heartless suggestion.

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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: TerryWhite]
    #20907529 - 11/30/14 09:27 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Additionally, where does the OP say they took "joy" mutilating a corpse?





Nowhere did I say he said that.  It was implied quite evidently in a few of his posts.

If you cant see that then u are more hopeless than I originally thought.

Again, for the hearing and sight impaired, mutilating a dead OR alive animal with a certain sense of enjoyment as evident in some of his posts, is certainly more over the top than me tossing a mouse with sadness.

Pretty fucking black and white bud.

im laughing out how much effort you seem to be putting in to slide off on tangents about all of this.

My statement above, which has been repeated more than once for you, still stands.

Care to argue another offshoot of my black and white statement?

Care to put more words in my mouth?

Fly at er'...your feeble attempts at creating an argument out of my personal opinion is weak and laughable at best.

:dealwithit:

P.s. for the record, I personally use snapping mouse traps if entirely necessary :shrug:


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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: TerryWhite]
    #20907543 - 11/30/14 09:31 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

The mouse belongs in the garbage after the glue has been removed, jeesh! Can't you guys agree on anything? Yes snap traps are the most humane and work the best too.

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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #20907556 - 11/30/14 09:35 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I think terry whitebread is a rat thats why he empathizes with them so much

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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: Masked]
    #20907577 - 11/30/14 09:39 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Nowhere did I say he said that.  It was implied quite evidently in a few of his posts.




That's why I asked. WHERE is this implied?

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Again, for the hearing and sight impaired, mutilating a dead OR alive animal with a certain sense of enjoyment as evident in some of his posts, is certainly more over the top than me tossing a mouse with sadness.

Pretty fucking black and white bud.




Where is it evident? Or are you just making things up? Quotes pls.

It's not black and white. I refer you to the taxidermist example. The key distinctions here are whether the animal is alive or dead, and the purposes behind it.

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Care to put more words in my mouth?




You suggested the OP to throw the animal in the trash while still alive. That is called animal cruelty. Is that black and white enough for you?

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P.s. for the record, I personally use snapping mouse traps if entirely necessary :shrug:




Then don't make dumb posts that recommend unnecessary animal cruelty.

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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: TerryWhite]
    #20907629 - 11/30/14 10:00 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I liked the thread:shrug:

it was entertaining

you ruined it grandma

I don't think OP meant to sound cruel by saying he considered microwaving(:rofl:)said rat,he was just trying to figure out a quick way to kill it


that's pretty gross op got up close and personal like that with a disgusting rat and using one of your knives knives and cutting board:puke:

if I had a rat id just wait for it with my pellet gun...its super accurate...that or snap-neck traps with peanut butter...they love peanut butter


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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: Doctor Sponge]
    #20907695 - 11/30/14 10:21 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I don't think OP meant to sound cruel by saying he considered microwaving(:rofl:)said rat,he was just trying to figure out a quick way to kill it



Whatever they were thinking, it's quite loony to suggest that.

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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: TerryWhite]
    #20907784 - 11/30/14 10:47 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Im not here to hold your hand through this entire thread.  :canthelpbutlaugh:

Im not here to point you in the direction of "shit".  If you cant see it, I pity you.

The only one here supporting animal cruelty clearly is you and a few select others.


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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: Masked]
    #20907858 - 11/30/14 11:06 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

This is stupid. A Roman death is the best way to dispatch an animal that has got to go.
The glue trap pretty much seals it's fate. It's gonna have to die at some point, either slowly or quickly.
If it had been caught it a live trap, however... well then you could probably just release it outside somewhere.
Too bad OP didn't have a fish club. Next time just thump it hard on top of the head once or twice. It's not loud if you do it right and you're not going to wake up your neighbors.


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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: Masked]
    #20907871 - 11/30/14 11:09 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Something else op could have done instead of killing the mouse is to simply put her in a box with some food/water and let her loose in a mouse friendly environment the next day. I'm surprised nobody is concerned about her children. Op should tear his house apart looking for her nest and foster the children for his sins. And yeah, your own knife and cutting board WTF!?

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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: passifloracaerulea]
    #20907912 - 11/30/14 11:30 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

The glue sealed it's fate. There's no turning back after that.


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Re: Decapitated a mouse... earned my cat's respect [Re: Masked]
    #20907965 - 11/30/14 11:47 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Im not here to hold your hand through this entire thread.  :canthelpbutlaugh:

Im not here to point you in the direction of "shit".  If you cant see it, I pity you.

The only one here supporting animal cruelty clearly is you and a few select others.




Ah, right. So now you can't back up your bullshit. Good going.

I never supported cruelty to animals here (no, a humane mercy killing is not cruelty). In fact I called you out on the cruelty of your first post, something you're clearly ignoring (hmm I wonder why). A few select others, LOL! Yeah bud. Including yourself, Mr "you should have thrown the mouse in the garbage so it dies slowly in its own shit and piss while it attempts to gnaw off a limb to escape". Or did we forget what was in that first post already? It pretty much destroys any sort of credibility you have on this thread, at least when it comes to animal cruelty.

You aren't any better than those who suggest animal abuse, hypocrite. A glue trap is inhumane and it's even more inhumane to throw out a live animal on it into the bin. Pointless cruelty and a moronic suggestion, nothing more.

Edited by TerryWhite (11/30/14 12:04 PM)

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